Obama to Congress, I can be bad all by myself

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100730...ated_comment=18602183#mwpphu-comment-18602183

By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS, Associated Press Writer Julie Hirschfeld Davis, Associated Press Writer – 17 mins ago
WASHINGTON – The Obama administration, unable to push an immigration overhaul through Congress, is considering ways it could go around lawmakers to allow undocumented immigrants to stay in the United States, according to an agency memo.

The internal draft written by officials at U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services outlines ways that the government could provide "relief" to illegal immigrants — including delaying deportation for some, perhaps indefinitely, or granting green cards to others — in the absence of legislation revamping the system.

It's emerging as chances fade in this election year for a measure President Barack Obama favors to put the nation's estimated 12 million undocumented immigrants on a path to legal status, and as debate rages over an Arizona law targeting people suspected of being in the country illegally.

The 11-page internal memo, written in April to the agency's director, says: "This memorandum offers administrative relief options to promote family unity, foster economic growth, achieve significant process improvements and reduce the threat of removal for certain individuals present in the United States without authorization."

It goes on: "In the absence of comprehensive immigration reform, USCIS can extend benefits and/or protections to many individuals or groups."

The memo provoked a backlash by Republicans who called it evidence that Obama is looking for ways of relaxing immigration policies without political consensus to enact a new law.

"The document provides an additional basis for our concerns that the administration will go to great lengths to circumvent Congress and unilaterally execute a backdoor amnesty plan," said Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, who obtained and circulated the memo. "The problem remains that if you reward illegality, you get more of it."

Grassley led a group of conservative GOP senators who wrote to Obama in June asking him to promise that the administration wouldn't use its authority to "change the current position of a large group of illegal aliens already in the United States."

The Iowan's staff said the group has not received a response.

"Now we find out the truth: while saying one thing to the public, the Obama administration is scheming to ensure that immigration laws are not enforced," said Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, the top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee.

Christopher Bentley, a spokesman for the agency, said the internal document "should not be equated with official action or policy," and represented only "deliberation and exchange of ideas."

"We continue to maintain that comprehensive bipartisan legislation, coupled with smart, effective enforcement, is the only solution to our nation's immigration challenges," he said in a statement.

Still, the memo makes clear that even without such a bill, immigration officials have identified a variety of ways to relax U.S. policy to allow more undocumented immigrants who might otherwise face deportation to stay in the country. Among the options outlined is expanding the use of "deferred action" — in which the government can use its discretion to halt a deportation indefinitely, usually for an urgent humanitarian reason.

"While it is theoretically possible to grant deferred action to an unrestricted number of unlawfully present individuals, doing so would likely be controversial, not to mention expensive," the memo says. Instead, officials suggest using the option for certain groups, such as tens of thousands of high school graduates who have been brought up in the U.S. and plan to attend college or serve in the armed forces.

Democrats and Republicans have repeatedly tried to push through legislation — known as the "Dream Act" — to cover those students.

"To be clear," Bentley said, the government "will not grant deferred action or humanitarian parole to the nation's entire illegal immigrant population."

Another option included in the document is to allow more illegal immigrants to receive "parole-in-place" status. This would let them stay in the United States while they seek legal status.

The document discusses applying both those options to spouses of active duty military personnel, for instance.

It also suggests expanding the definition of "extreme hardship" for exceptions in immigration cases — a prospect that alarmed critics who said it could lower the bar so virtually any undocumented person could meet it.

And the memo suggests allowing people who entered the United States illegally and were granted so-called "Temporary Protected Status" because of a crisis in their home countries to stay and get permanent legal residency.

The memo notes that this would be a change in long-standing policy, and says, "Opening this pathway will help thousands of applicants obtain lawful permanent residence without having to leave the U.S."

Some proponents of revamping the immigration system said the document simply points out ways the agency can fix old and outdated practices that separate families and hurt workers and employers.

Writing on the Immigration Policy Center's blog, Director Mary Giovagnoli, a former immigration official, said, "Good for you, USCIS, for trying to do what it can within that broken system."
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I figure Busybody can take it from here.
 
No. Mungo doesn't like me very much cus I calls him on his shit. And mean ole Rush won't tell me either cus like I fact check and I don't hate mexicans and coloreds!

Stupid Obomination.

Saddest part is if we'd gotten McSame we still woulda got this, it just would have happened earlier instead of Health Care. I'm gonna go start learning Spic Speak.
:(:(:(

Edited: Oops, meant McCain not Kerry. Brain fart.
 
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I know

You are ONE of the good Juan's

I dont think Bush disliked Mexi Cants and Coloreds

:cool:
 
You like my new name for him?

MongoHO?

or

is simply

HO!

better?

Im thinking the latter!

As you know

I used to call him COLORED FOOL, but for SOME reason.....some "people" were offended:D
 
American people are in general good people, even though misguided by British assholes for so long.

It's time American people wake up.
 
Its too late! It's over! If you speak English it's time to retreat to the northern states! The South west is lost!
 
No. Mongo LOYD

I concede

you are a MUCH BIGGER PRICK then I am:D

Tee Hee, another funny by BUSYBODY:)

Enjoy your dinner bowl of Spaghetti-O's as you eat by yourself for the nth time after turning off the computer, loser.
 
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAna...ures-Lead-To-Second-American-Revolution-.aspx

I think vette has a thread on this, but Congress has continually abdicated and farmed out its responsibilities to the executive and now that's about to bite us all in the ass...

The only justification for the Democratic Party to survive its trend to Marxism is the Republicans trend to want to be part of the ruling oligarchy.

They've both become the party of big government and enemies of individual liberty.
 
No. Mungo doesn't like me very much cus I calls him on his shit. And mean ole Rush won't tell me either cus like I fact check and I don't hate mexicans and coloreds!

Stupid Obomination.

Saddest part is if we'd gotten McSame we still woulda got this, it just would have happened earlier instead of Health Care. I'm gonna go start learning Spic Speak.
:(:(:(

Edited: Oops, meant McCain not Kerry. Brain fart.

Spic speak? Really?

Way to show how much you don't hate coloreds and mexicans like mean ole Rush. :rolleyes:
 
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAna...ures-Lead-To-Second-American-Revolution-.aspx

I think vette has a thread on this, but Congress has continually abdicated and farmed out its responsibilities to the executive and now that's about to bite us all in the ass...

The only justification for the Democratic Party to survive its trend to Marxism is the Republicans trend to want to be part of the ruling oligarchy.

They've both become the party of big government and enemies of individual liberty.

A Second American Revolution?

It cracks me up to no end when you idiots start hoping for armed insurrection. It just shows exactly how far into the radical fringe you've gone. Are you stockpiling military hardware yet? Teaching the little one how to rig a tripwire?

If you needed any more evidence as to how whacked out you are.. Even the GOP, who has ran as far to the right as they can without completely losing all hope of ever winning an election again, are now part of what you consider to be the problem.

You are a rock..
You need an Island..
Preferably one with nice men in white coats to keep sharp objects out of your reach.
 
You probably should read what I actually posited in vette's thread before launching into a straw man attack.
 
I saw that article. Mildly interesting.




It had better be a revolution of thought and education because the Left is cocked and ready for the slightest hint of violence to justify unleashing their hate upon their fellow man...

I rest my case having proved my contention without even trying...
 
Its too late! It's over! If you speak English it's time to retreat to the northern states! The South west is lost!

It's Southwest....and what do you mean, "it's lost"? Not in my backyard huh?
 
No. Mungo doesn't like me very much cus I calls him on his shit. And mean ole Rush won't tell me either cus like I fact check and I don't hate mexicans and coloreds!

Stupid Obomination.

Saddest part is if we'd gotten McSame we still woulda got this, it just would have happened earlier instead of Health Care. I'm gonna go start learning Spic Speak.
:(:(:(

Edited: Oops, meant McCain not Kerry. Brain fart.
What's the point of illegals being allowed to stay here when Obama is out there doing audits of employers - effectively making sure illegals get FIRED and can't get a job?

Read, and be educated.
 
A Second American Revolution?

It cracks me up to no end when you idiots start hoping for armed insurrection. It just shows exactly how far into the radical fringe you've gone. Are you stockpiling military hardware yet? Teaching the little one how to rig a tripwire?

If you needed any more evidence as to how whacked out you are.. Even the GOP, who has ran as far to the right as they can without completely losing all hope of ever winning an election again, are now part of what you consider to be the problem.

You are a rock..
You need an Island..
Preferably one with nice men in white coats to keep sharp objects out of your reach.

My name is Dave Coughlin and I live in Hawthorne, New York. I am a "Right Wing Extremist" and proud of it. Yes, I am active in the White Plains Tea Party group.

Let's see how I became a right wing extremist: grew up in the suburbs on Long Island and attended public schools - pretty extreme!

I graduated from West Point, served in the Army for seven years - sounds pretty extreme to me!

I then returned to New York to work for IBM (another extreme organization). Maybe pin-striped suits and wing tips are the new extremist uniform? I was laid off last year, but was able to retire after 31 years and not join the unemployed.

I raised my children here in Westchester County and they attended public schools. I have been married 39 years. I pay my taxes and vote in every election. I am also a proud member of the Silent Majority! Am I the dreaded "Right Wing Extremist" you fear so much?

Maybe it is the extreme ideology I picked up? I started out in the 60s as a JFK conservative Democrat believing in tax cuts and a strong defense. As the liberals took over the Democratic Party and abandoned these principles, I became a conservative Republican believing in limited government and American exceptionalism. As "compassionate" moderates took over the Republican Party and downplayed their principles, I became a Registered Independent. If nothing else I now receive less fundraising junk mail from the Democrats and Republicans! I still vote in every election, but pay more attention to the individual candidate positions rather than just their parties.

Over the last twenty years I have been increasingly dissatisfied with the direction in which this country has been going. A year ago I heard about and attended the first White Plains Tea Party demonstration in front to the Country Center and was hooked. I attended the New York State Tea Party and spoke on the steps of the Capitol expressing my dissatisfaction with the direction our state is going.

I attended the September 2009 March on Washington where I found close to a million people who were equally dissatisfied with our country's direction. A recent Pew poll found that 78% of Americans "dissatisfied with the way things are going in the county today." This country has made a left turn which is unacceptable to me, and apparently millions more, who can be Silent No More!

So what has happened to Washington? Politicians say wonderful things and promise wonderful changes if they get elected. Unfortunately once they get elected I think they undergo electro-shock therapy because they seem to lose their Common Sense! It is as if before election they want to work for me, but once elected they become tone deaf and view me only as a revenue source to fund their re-election. Many of the things they do Make No Sense to me!

So what is the impact on me? I am unable to vote for a Presidential candidate, but instead I am forced to vote against the other candidate... holding my nose when I depress the lever to vote. I believe I am not alone in my thinking, and that a significant number of people either vote their conscience like I do or they don't vote at all. Perhaps the fact that less than a half the eligible voters in any given election bother to cast their votes is a reflection of this dissatisfaction. The days of a thought leader who inspired your vote are a distant memory.

So what would I like to see? I am an eternal optimist still hoping for a charismatic leader, who believes in American exceptionalism, free market capitalism, limited government, and a strong defense.

Wouldn't it be nice if this leader also had a plan how to undo the damage done over the last 75 years? If that person could be found, I believe the citizens of this country would embrace this vision and elect this person to multiple terms. I am not really an "extremist." The most important next step is for we, "extremists," to vote out the current hacks and vote in politicians who represent us!
 
I am a "Right Wing Extremist" and proud of it. Yes, I am active in the White Plains Tea Party group.
*snip*

YAWN ! You are consistently boring and a total TOOL.
 
Spic speak? Really?

Way to show how much you don't hate coloreds and mexicans like mean ole Rush. :rolleyes:

I don't hate coloreds. I however don't think America (or any country) has room for multiple distinct cultures. We'll work out the legal/illegal issues later. Speak English goddamnit. It does piss me off seeing the amount of jobs where being bilingual is damn near a prereq.

A Second American Revolution?

It cracks me up to no end when you idiots start hoping for armed insurrection. It just shows exactly how far into the radical fringe you've gone. Are you stockpiling military hardware yet? Teaching the little one how to rig a tripwire?

If you needed any more evidence as to how whacked out you are.. Even the GOP, who has ran as far to the right as they can without completely losing all hope of ever winning an election again, are now part of what you consider to be the problem.

You are a rock..
You need an Island..
Preferably one with nice men in white coats to keep sharp objects out of your reach.

Please UD. Don't feed the trolls. Anybody talking about a Revolution, even jokingly, is a retard.
What's the point of illegals being allowed to stay here when Obama is out there doing audits of employers - effectively making sure illegals get FIRED and can't get a job?

Read, and be educated.

Didn't read the article LJ? That's not like you. I've acknowledged and up until I found he was going for an end run been proud of Obama on immigration. What's the point of auditing employers if he grants amnesty? They won't be illegal at that point.
 
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