Penetration

[Primalex]

I feel like you constantly pestering me and calling me names for absolutely no reason (since I never even spoke to you first)

You know what is good about this place? Your paranoia can be easily verified. You decided to "discuss" with me in the "death by firing squard" first and you decided to abuse my quote here in this thread first - it was your choice to involve me twice. And before this, I haven't written anything about you for months.

Why don't you just admit that you were bored and that you like that I spice up your sorry life? Or what other explanation do you have for your behaviour?

 

[Primalex]

It's SARCASM.

IRONY.

I hope your tits are better than your brain.

(This was SARCASM.)

 

[BiBunny]

Everybody here knows I'm the biggest attention whore on Lit. And I'm fat to boot, so that makes me doubly pathetic. True facts. *Nods sagely*

 

[satindesire]

You know what is good about this place? Your paranoia can be easily verified. You decided to "discuss" with me in the "death by firing squard" first and you decided to abuse my quote here in this thread first - it was your choice to involve me twice. And before this, I haven't written anything about you for months.

Why don't you just admit that you were bored and that you like that I spice up your sorry life? Or what other explanation do you have for your behaviour?

Tips for Trolls one:

When you have nothing logical and relevant to say in defense to a point your opponent has made, make wild accusations about how "sorry" your opponent's life is. Even if you know nothing about the quality of the life, it will make you feel better in comparison.

And that has been a Tip for Trolls.

IRONY.

I hope your tits are better than your brain.

(This was SARCASM.)

Uh. No. Technically, I was correct. And technically is the BEST kind of correct.


sar·casm
   /ˈsɑrkæzəm/ Show Spelled[sahr-kaz-uhm]
–noun
1.
harsh or bitter derision or irony.
2.
a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark: a review full of sarcasms.

Next?

Everybody here knows I'm the biggest attention whore on Lit. And I'm fat to boot, so that makes me doubly pathetic. True facts. *Nods sagely*

I don't think you're pathetic, I think you're AWESOME!

 

[Primalex]

When you have nothing logical and relevant to say in defense to a point your opponent has made,

I told you that this link proves as an undeniable fact that you are either a liar or paranoid. What exactly can be more logical and relevant?

And as you are a proven liar now, how else would you explain your behaviour?

sar·casm
harsh or bitter derision or irony.

Next?

Oh. You wanted to write harsh or bitter derision? Sorry, I didn't get this. I really believed you used irony - writing the complete opposite of what you mean as a joke:

I mean, when"Look at me, I'm shaking in my little space boots." is NOT irony, but sarcasm, then you really did shake in your little space boots. But okay, I don't know much about your shoe collection. So I'll believe you now as you insist it was sarcasm.


satin, I really recommend you do the pullback tango now - like:"You are an asshole, bla bla, I'm right, bla bla, but I'm smarter (or any other positive trait you find) than you and so ignore you/let this discussion die/whatever bla bla". It's the best way to get out of this for you. Some people here are really good in holding their ground with arguments - you are not one of them.

 

[Primalex]

This troll started jocking me YEARS ago with absolutely no good reason to, calling me names like "Whore" because I posted erotic pictures up on the AM Pic thread.

Counter statement:

- I never do anything without a good reason.

- I do not call women "whore" for posting pictures in the amateur picture forum. There are quite some people here who have posted pictures there and I don't call any of them 'whore'.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Primalex, satindesire;

The two of you make one big, fat, troll. Take your quarrel to its own thread in the cafe.

 

[Primalex]

The two of you make one big, fat, troll. Take your quarrel to its own thread in the cafe.

Live with it. You enjoyed feeding BLoved and I enjoy feeding satindesire. If you don't like it here, I'm sure there is enough space in the GLBT section for you.

 

[Netzach]

Live with it. You enjoyed feeding BLoved and I enjoy feeding satindesire. If you don't like it here, I'm sure there is enough space in the GLBT section for you.

Um, no - that had its own special thread. If you want to fuck off to one of sd's threads and have at it, that would be equivalent. In the meantime CM is wasting her time and has been for some time in posting what could have been halfway interesting.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Live with it. You enjoyed feeding BLoved and I enjoy feeding satindesire. If you don't like it here, I'm sure there is enough space in the GLBT section for you.

You need to learn some basic good manners, little man.

Everyone "enjoyed feeding" bloved-- on his own thread(s). All you are doing is squabbling on your own account over and over and over, on many other people's threads.

 

[satindesire]

I'm sorry ladies. I'll stop. I didn't mean to ruin the thread.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I'm sorry ladies. I'll stop. I didn't mean to ruin the thread.

You've been letting a very crude and inexperienced top practice his button-pushing on you, you realise that...

 

[satindesire]

You've been letting a very crude and inexperienced top practice his button-pushing on you, you realise that...

I know he's an ass. I get tired of him pushing people around with no one standing up to him. The biggest character flaw I have is I feel responsible to stand up to a bully, at all times.

I apologize, Stella, genuinely. It's one of the most frustrating things about me that I don't like. Sometimes I can't just sit by and let a jerk be a jerk, and I know I should just ignore it all the time.

Now that I've apologized twice, can you stop chastising me, please?

 

[Stella_Omega]

I know he's an ass. I get tired of him pushing people around with no one standing up to him. The biggest character flaw I have is I feel responsible to stand up to a bully, at all times.

I apologize, Stella, genuinely. It's one of the most frustrating things about me that I don't like. Sometimes I can't just sit by and let a jerk be a jerk, and I know I should just ignore it all the time.

Now that I've apologized twice, can you stop chastising me, please?

I will not chastise you any more, I promise-- unless you want a delicious little cyberspanking...

But just one more thing about primalux.. sometimes it isn't that "no one stands up to him" it's that no one cares what he says. Coming from him, "whore" is as meaningless as "window frame,' or "catfish."

He's just a hang-around wannabe. There are thousands of them.

 

[satindesire]

I will not chastise you any more, I promise-- unless you want a delicious little cyberspanking...

But just one more thing about primalux.. sometimes it isn't that "no one stands up to him" it's that no one cares what he says. Coming from him, "whore" is as meaningless as "window frame,' or "catfish."

He's just a hang-around wannabe. There are thousands of them.

"Primalux" sounds like a brand name for house paint. XD;!

ETA: You know what? You're right. He should go on my ffvb ignore list and stay there for the rest of eternity.

Thanks Stella.

 

[Primalex]

Um, no - that had its own special thread. If you want to fuck off to one of sd's threads and have at it, that would be equivalent. In the meantime CM is wasting her time and has been for some time in posting what could have been halfway interesting.

Please, look at the thread.

The first replies are just a waste of space, then a handful of few interesting postings from JM, Seurat, mwyankee, yourself, myself, then some discussion between JM, yourself and myself and a little sidenote from Homburg. There was no other content besides "Oh, CM, you are so right, I feel like you penetrated my thoughts" in various wordings.

Do you really think after 4 days someone would have added something interesting suddenly? The thread was already dead. Not to mention that anyone who can argue that much with BLoved has plenty of time to waste.

 

[Miss_Lilybear]

Somehow this doesn't seem like the open, friendly discussion forum I thought it would be.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Somehow this doesn't seem like the open, friendly discussion forum I thought it would be.

Open and friendly absolutely.

Also open and confrontational-- open is the key word here

I do wish there were a morsel more moderation allowed, but "free speech" is so important to the site owners that they prefer it to civilised discourse. It's a porn site, after all.

But there are wonderful people here, and I recommend the firefox plugin in my signature to make the rest of them invisible.

 

[Primalex]

I know he's an ass. I get tired of him pushing people around with no one standing up to him. The biggest character flaw I have is I feel responsible to stand up to a bully, at all times.

I apologize, Stella, genuinely. It's one of the most frustrating things about me that I don't like. Sometimes I can't just sit by and let a jerk be a jerk, and I know I should just ignore it all the time.

Now that I've apologized twice, can you stop chastising me, please?

WOW

This is neither sarcasm nor irony: This text, ladies and gentlemen, is pure art.

There she is again - the poor little girl. Please, the spotlight on her, there in the corner on the stage. Don't you feel pity for her now, after reading this?

How subtle she hides her passive-aggressive tone towards JM, how she turns the fact that SHE was the only one "bullied" here in the two threads into the fact that she was merely the protector of some unknown poor victims and this good soul there in the corner got hurt unjustly in the defense!

The blanket of blindness over the fact that I had her ignored all the time but she wanted my attention dearly and decided that mocking me first would be the way to go!

Not the slightest hint that her attacks were just fueled by her paranoia, which was proven - of course, it was always just about the poor Literotican citizens, who need protection (by her definition)! The attacks were never ever some attempt of personal satisfaction! Of course not!


There she is, in the corner of the stage, hiding the knife behind her back, with puppy eyes and a shy smile, trying to say:"Sorry for the inconvenience my attempts of justice might have caused. It wasn't my fault at all."


Brilliant.

Shakespeare himself didn't manage to incite more emotions.

 

[bruisedweasel]

Somehow this doesn't seem like the open, friendly discussion forum I thought it would be.

Having come from another community advocating free speech, I like it here. Most people here seem capable of intelligent conversation, beyond "I'm horny let's masturbate". Fights and arguments are common in groups like this, but don't signify a lack of openness or excessive hostility.

My time lurking here has given me much to think on, and I think I'm better for having explored this section of Literotica.

 

[intothewoods]

I just think these tit for tat posts are boring.

I was actually hoping Netz and Stella would clarify or say more about whether not liking cock - bio or non - is a character issue versus just a preference? I don't really understand how it's a character issue, unless the preference is fueled by homophobia. Although, I think there is a bit of literal homophobia that has been drilled into the minds of most straight men. Still, generally we don't choose our sexual desires.

 

[Seurat]

Still, generally we don't choose our sexual desires.

I was thinking about that the other day. I mean, a serious and long thought out 'think', which is rare. It happened when I was discussing what things I liked in a person, and wether reactions were changeable or light switches.


To me, it seems that there are lots and lots of light swithes, and some override others. For example, I work with two women, both of whom I would say are very attractive physically. One has a quick smile, the other does not. That lack of smile is enough to make me discount the one completely, and make me find her not attractive.

I think there are enough switches in the 'off' postition that I no longer find her attractive, sexually or not.

When it comes to the question of penetration with bio or non-bio cock, I think my big hang-up with the bio cock would be that there are to many things about men that flip switches to the 'off' position. Just as there are a lot of things possible in a woman that would make switches go to the 'on' position which would make me bend over and say 'make sure there's enough lube'. Doesn't mean that I would do it for anybody, but I think the possibility is there.

Most of those switches aren't controlled by me in any concious fashion. I have learned to recognize them over time (like the easy smile) so that I know what is going on, but I still can't control most of them. I do know that any number of them have been created or influenced by things throughout my life (nuture over nature) and, while I don't think that I am a homophobic, I will admit that there is probably a swith in there somewhere that says, "Guys? Yes or no?"

 

[Netzach]

I just think these tit for tat posts are boring.

I was actually hoping Netz and Stella would clarify or say more about whether not liking cock - bio or non - is a character issue versus just a preference? I don't really understand how it's a character issue, unless the preference is fueled by homophobia. Although, I think there is a bit of literal homophobia that has been drilled into the minds of most straight men. Still, generally we don't choose our sexual desires.

Liking cock isn't.

Being wigged out about physical penetration to the point of paralysis is. Unless something horrible happened to you to traumatize, I just don't get it, and life it too short for me to fuck people I can't possibly understand.

Not really a character issue, for me. More a stack of issues I don't want to deal with in my romantic relationships, a stance I find distasteful. I'm allowed to do that, I hope, seeing as female controllingness or assertion is so damn distasteful to every second person on earth?

Again: apply this to women and no one would really question it for a split second. Jesus, fuck - look at the G SPOT thread in HT and you're a freak if you don't G Gasm. Seriously? I don't have to feel apologetic over this for a second.

"Why oh why does this impugn on my character, I can help it no more than my eye color "- I guess that's one way of looking at it, and if that's how you look at it that's fair to ask.

To me, getting fucked is a physical decision like "trying Miller Lite." So there's clearly a disconnect. If you are having a fainting fit at the thought of trying the halibut, I lose compatibility fast, it's no different to me.

The issue is universal, male penetration angst. Gays enjoy it too. Seen shortbus? It's really good - it's two separate quests, and the quest of the main gay character is to make peace with the notion of penetration - spiritual, emotional, physical.

There is a deep universal paranoia of things going in male ass. The continuation of the dialogue shows it. Things going in girls is "no shit."

I don't accept it in my personal fuckverse, penetration-aversion from other person. Any more than control is accepted in other people's.

 

[BiBunny]

Does the boy lose his "Master" cred if I say that I'm pretty sure I've ass-fucked him more times this year than he's ass-fucked me? Just wondering.

 

[Netzach]

Does the boy lose his "Master" cred if I say that I'm pretty sure I've ass-fucked him more times this year than he's ass-fucked me? Just wondering.

Is it redundant for me to say no?