Barack Obama, college professor

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

I also seem to remember that you worked at a meat plant in the 1980's. How did that fit into your busy schedule?

Two mathematics questions were posted on the Literotica General Board. You did not step forward to answer them. I do not know where you were. You seem to live here. BTW, I got the second one right.

I did. I was also involved with Martial Arts and trained with the chair of the local English department who insisted I take on a reading list and think about returning to college, which I did some years later.

I don't open a lot of threads, nor do I jump though hoops because I feel like I have to "prove" something.

I don't lack in self-esteem. You seem to though. Most socialists do, which is why they gravitate towards a philosophy that leads them to believe they are just in taking out the gun of government and putting it to the heads of people who work hard in order to steal a portion of their life and give it to someone else in order to "earn" the faux self-esteem of noble works, like charity, but just not with a portion of your life.
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"It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
CS Lewis

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

PS - When I have done math-oriented threads, you were nowhere near to be found...

 

[The_Trouvere]

Lie by omission.

Like cherry picking quotes and ignoring the main thrust of the point.

The lie of the doublethink means toward a goal...
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There are important differences between socialism and social democracy. It is also true that many if not most socialists have not been Marxists, and certainly not Marxist Leninists.

When F. A. Hayek criticizes socialism he is criticizing an economy in which the government owns nearly all of the productive wealth. That does not exist in any democratic country. No one of any prominence in the United States is advocating that sort of economic system. President Obama is not trying to create it.

Pointing out that F.A. Hayek is opposed to laissez faire capitalism is not cherry picking. That, plus the fact that he is criticizing an economic system that President Obama is not trying to create, means that even if Hayek has valuable insights, they can not be used against the President's agenda.

Although Obama is not in favor of socialism, a Rasmussen Report issued April 09, 2009 indicates that 20% of the American people are.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub.../just_53_say_capitalism_better_than_socialism

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

No there's not...

It's like saying there's a lot of difference between baseball cards, football cards, and murderer's collectable cards...



Then he was criticizing Obama who is tending towards Facist models.

 

[1shmael]

it's gonna a fucking long-ass 4 years with " Dr. Barack Obama " at the chalkboard

We'll call it "The Plague of Really Big Words".

Ishmael

 

[The_Trouvere]

Now tell us he was sympathetic to your socialism.

I do not dislike socialism, but I do not advocate it. I advocate social democracy.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Same thing.




I'll trade you an Eli Manning for a Manson and an Atkins...

 

[The_Trouvere]

It's like saying there's a lot of difference between baseball cards, football cards, and murderer's collectable cards...

Then he was criticizing Obama who is tending towards Facist (sic) models.

It is not true that President Obama "is tending towards Fascist models.

It is true that the first Ayn Rand novel that was made into a movie was made into a movie in Fascist Italy. This happened in 1942 when Italy was an ally of Nazi Germany.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

*yawn*




Repetition is the key to success grasshopper...

Wax on, wax off...

You do know Obama used the NEA to produce propaganda for him.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Same thing.
I'll trade you an Eli Manning for a Manson and an Atkins...

No it is not. As I have pointed out before, that is a False Comparison or Analogy fallacy:

"This is an argument that contains a contextual error or a neglected aspect. It occurs when we assume that two things that are alike in one specific way are alike in other ways. 'Skis and roller skates are both strapped on your feet. Skis help you travel over snow efficiently, so roller skates would help you travel efficiently over snow'."
http://hawaii.hawaii.edu/wwwreading/Fallacies/fallacydefinitions.htm

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It is also an example of the straw man fallacy:

"The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position...This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself. "
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html

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BTW, when I point out that "We the Living" was made into a movie in Fascist Italy, I am not saying that Ayn Rand was a Fascist. I am saying that she, along with Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini, was on the right.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

An Eli and a Peyton?

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Let me see, in the face of an important topic of the day, like a natural disaster, what would a Dean do?

Hold investigations...

Assemble panels of experts...



Blame the campus Republican Club for unrest...
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Nemesis has caught up with him in oh so many ways. From what we can tell, he was not a serious student, but rather a glib and politically astute observer, who rode affirmative action, identity politics, and campus trends (I am now gleaning this from his own autobiography) right through Occidental and Columbia to Harvard Law—without much scholarship. He was given much more attention at Chicago Law School for what he represented than what he accomplished. He arrogantly thought he could glide into the racist cauldron of Trinity Church, and glide out as an authentic African-American organizer of the Jesse Jackson sort.

His Senate career was similar—long on soaring rhetoric, in perpetual campaign mode, predicated on white liberal guilt and ease with a charismatic “other”—and short on actual accomplishment.
Victor Davis Hanson

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

It is not true that President Obama "is tending towards Fascist models.

...

Yes it is...

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"I pray God when the Democrats take back control we don't make the kind of naked power grab you are doing."
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"You know we're going to control the insurance companies."
Joe Biden

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

The End of the Road for the Ivory Tower Dream

In just a few months the brave new dream world as we knew it has died — but with a whimper, not a bang.

There will be no more lectures on soft power and a Baltic-to-Mediterranean postmodern culture. Suddenly European Union expansion is dead in its tracks. The question of Turkish membership, after a decade-long controversy, has been settled without so much as a demonstration. The Europeans don’t want another Greece in their midst; the Turks don’t want German bankers running their sagging finances. A soaring Euro was supposed to reflect the sobriety of socialism; instead, it hid its profligacy, but only for a while.

So the welfare state is discredited. In the past, we used to be warned that static population growth, vast public-sector employment, early and generous retirement benefits, and high taxes were not sustainable. In recent years, those lectures were caricatured as partisan or hypothetical. No longer. The Greek meltdown — with Ireland, Italy, Portugal, and Spain on the brink — has shown that European socialism does not work. Bankruptcy, not politics, is the final arbiter: Individuals, firms, and nations either buy particular bonds or they don’t. And a nation like Greece, in turn, either pays what it has borrowed or it doesn’t. All the op-eds in the New York Times cannot change that fact.

Al Gore will continue to channel from his Montecito hilltop the latest green consensus of the international academic community. But fairly or not, neither he nor it will be listened to all that much: He has made one too many millions off his hysteria, and professors have fudged one too many publicly funded studies. The result is that both have lost the people’s trust. A volcano, not hot weather, shut down European air travel. The Sierra Nevada is still buried under snow in late May. At least this year, a wet, cold state of California is not going to blow away, as Energy Secretary Chu warned not long ago.

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Then there is Arizona. Over 70 percent of the American people support the state’s efforts to stop illegal immigration, which amount to nothing more than enforcing currently unenforced federal laws. The hackneyed charges of racism and nativism are ignored. The Left can cite California’s Proposition 187 and warn the Republicans that they will lose the Hispanic vote, but 70 percent margins reflect angry citizens of all races and ethnicities, who are tired of seeing laws ignored, their state governments bankrupted, and Mexican presidents shaking fingers at them.

That Mexico treats illegal aliens far less humanely than does the United States, and that it deliberately encourages its own citizens to break U.S. immigration law (to the extent of publishing a comic book advising on how to illegally cross the border) reminds us that Barack Obama knows as little about Mexico as he does about Arizona’s law.

I do not think the word “reset” will be used much longer to characterize American foreign policy. Reset from what to what? After all, is Iran closer to getting a bomb or further away than it was a year and a half ago? Are terrorists more or less likely to attack and kill inside the United States? Is Syria now a more or a less helpful player in the Middle East? Is Israel safer or less safe, more or less a U.S. ally? Are Putin and Chávez now more helpful players on the world scene, in appreciation of Obama’s olive branches? Does a North Korea or an Iran feel more or less emboldened to run risks in testing the status quo?

The new world order as envisioned by Obama in January 2009 was, I think, supposed to look something like the following: A social-democratic America would come to emulate the successful welfare states in the European Union. These twin Western communitarian powers would together usher in a new world order in which no one nation was to be seen as preeminent. All the old nasty ideas of the 20th century — military alliances, sovereign borders, independent international finance, religious and cultural chauvinism — would fall by the wayside, as the West was reinvented as part of the solution rather the problem it had been in its days of colonialism, imperialism, and exploitation. A new green transnationalism would assume the place of that bad old order, a transnationalism run by elite, highly educated, and socially conscious technocrats — albeit themselves Western — supported by a progressive press more interested in effecting social change than in merely reporting the tawdry news.

Obama can still push that story, but more and more Americans disagree with his 21st-century vision. Stuck in the past, they instead believe that capitalism, not socialism, brings prosperity; that to reach a green future we need to survive for now in a carbon and nuclear present; that all, not some, laws must be enforced; that our country is different from others and needs to maintain the integrity of its borders; and that there are always going to be a few bad actors abroad who must be deterred rather than appeased.

We will hear all sorts of angry charges as these dreams die, but that will not mean they are not dead — even if they go out with a whimper rather than a bang.

Victor Davis Hanson
NRO

 

[RobDownSouth]

No doubt about it. Frisco/Cap'n's credentials are impressive. Hell, he did it all before he was 18. Then there were the stints as a Navy SEAL, chef to Japanese royalty and reconfiguring the Daytona International Speedway track.

How does that lucky bastard do it??

Don't forget he was a roadie/lighting tech for Led Zeppelin and Aerosmith, too. Seriously.

A real Renaissance man.

 

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[RobDownSouth]

Unfortunately for Obama and his army of socialist sycophants the European socialist model is rapidly imploding as a vast failure, and soon will be no more; just as those socialist clowns populating our Democrat Party are trying to advance the very same failed endeavor right here. TrouLoad, KO, et al, I hope your SA is good enough to get at least a glimpse of the ground rushing up at you before you crater.

I think it's best that you hide under the bed until 2016. It's a lot safer for your kind down there.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

"We will hear all sorts of angry charges as these dreams die...,"

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"The more he talked, the more he got upset. He needs to take a valium before he comes in and talks to Republicans and just calm down, and don’t take anything so seriously. If you disagree with someone, it doesn’t mean you’re attacking their motives — and he takes it that way and tends then to lecture and then gets upset.”
Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan.)

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Unfortunately for Obama and his army of socialist sycophants the European socialist model is rapidly imploding as a vast failure, and soon will be no more; just as those socialist clowns populating our Democrat Party are trying to advance the very same failed endeavor right here. TrouLoad, KO, et al, I hope your SA is good enough to get at least a glimpse of the ground rushing up at you before you crater.

Are you insane, or just naïve ?




This is all Bush's fault; the system is NOT broken!
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"The System WORKED!"
Janet Napolitano

 

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[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

All of man's polity is a Bell Curve thus we observe that on one end perhaps as much of 40% would prefer a meager, but safe and controlled existence, as to Liberty and the prospect of wealth, but also the possibility of failure...

The diehard Socialists, as long as they are free to pick the movie, venue and restaurant will always eschew liberty for the safety of benevolent tyranny.

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"Society has for its element man, who is a free agent; and since man is free, he may choose -- since he may choose, he may be mistaken -- since he may be mistaken, he may suffer....
I have faith in the wisdom of the laws of Providence, and for the same reason I have faith in liberty."
Frederic Bastiat

 

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[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

The strongest among them said "fuck that" and came here.

Then the socialists followed when it was safe...

 

[MeeMie]

Obama is a joke on the American People.

"In the world of the university, a Van Jones — fake name, fake accent, fake underclass pedigree, fake almost everything — is a dime a dozen. Ward Churchill fabricated everything from his degree to his ancestry, and was given tenure, high pay, and awards for his beads, buckskin, and Native American–like locks."



Sen. Obama has often referred to himself as 'a constitutional law professor' at the University of Chicago. He never held any such title. In fact, according to the University of Chicago Law School, Obama did not have tenure. His formal title was "Senior Lecturer."



The guy is a complete phoney fabrication of a loonie wet dream.

 

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