Is race an extreme taboo?

[MasterPhoenix]

This is coming up because I have a new potential sub that I am talking to who happens to be a black woman. Myself, you can't get much whiter than I as anyone on here who has seen my picture or has met me can attest to.

We have a good vibe, and race is not a deterrent to either of us, so its all good. However, it got me thinking about race-play. (which is something my deviant mind started pondering instantly... go me)

Playing with the race taboo is something that her and I have discussed, and will likely explore in great detail as things go on.

The funny thing is it is so acceptable to play at the Daddy-daughter taboo, but if I were to drop racial words on her or invoke pre-1863 rights to her, it would definitely turn some heads.

I remember in some other thread (too buzzed to even consider looking up the thread) Netzach saying something to the effect of "It is perfectly acceptable {to others}for me to be called a bitch or a cunt but if her were to call me a kike..."

What is it about race/ethnicity that makes it so out of bounds (which is what makes it that much more alluring to me)?

 

[JMaxwell69]

This is just a guess, but I think the kind of systematic atrocities that have resulted from racism make people particularly touchy about it.

Thinking of 11 million people slaughtered during the Holocaust is a pretty sobering concept. Granted some of those 11 million were killed based on sexual orientation or religious tenants, but the fact was that having Semitic facial characteristics was often a terminal condition in German-controlled Europe.

 

[rosco rathbone]

There's nothing so taboo that some pervs won't go there.

 

[Lizzie_Borden]

I'd say go for your life, if that's what makes you both happy.

Just treat it like you would any other emotionally touchy play if you're in a public venue, and tread carefully.

It's less about offending other people, and more about them killing the buzz of your scene with their angst.

 

[Netzach]

This is coming up because I have a new potential sub that I am talking to who happens to be a black woman. Myself, you can't get much whiter than I as anyone on here who has seen my picture or has met me can attest to.

We have a good vibe, and race is not a deterrent to either of us, so its all good. However, it got me thinking about race-play. (which is something my deviant mind started pondering instantly... go me)

Playing with the race taboo is something that her and I have discussed, and will likely explore in great detail as things go on.

The funny thing is it is so acceptable to play at the Daddy-daughter taboo, but if I were to drop racial words on her or invoke pre-1863 rights to her, it would definitely turn some heads.

I remember in some other thread (too buzzed to even consider looking up the thread) Netzach saying something to the effect of "It is perfectly acceptable {to others}for me to be called a bitch or a cunt but if her were to call me a kike..."

What is it about race/ethnicity that makes it so out of bounds (which is what makes it that much more alluring to me)?

What I was expressing at that point was the fact that I find it rather troublesome that words which are related to gender trip no one's trigger remotely the same way.

Which is not to say we shouldn't be able to play with taboos, I'm just really questioning the fact that racial/ethnic identity is somehow troublesome - because men have one too - whereas slut cunt bitch and whore are just cute scene pet names for everyone. If you don't particularly LOVE being "His Slut" when you're a bottom you're some kind of raving freak, whereas no one demands that anyone go for the racial taboo - it's more an option.

If you wanna go there, go for it. It's the last great taboo, really. Sit through "The Aristocrats" and get to Whoopi's version of the joke.

What I'm trying to say is that I don't have a problem with it, but I do have a problem when people make it "no big deal" - that creeps me out. These things are a big deal. They should be a big deal. It keeps us responsible human beings - AND it makes fucking with them hotter - seems win/win.

 

[Primalex]

This is just a guess, but I think the kind of systematic atrocities that have resulted from racism make people particularly touchy about it.

Thinking of 11 million people slaughtered during the Holocaust is a pretty sobering concept. Granted some of those 11 million were killed based on sexual orientation or religious tenants, but the fact was that having Semitic facial characteristics was often a terminal condition in German-controlled Europe.

I doubt that this increased racism as taboo. Actually vice versa, it decreased it as taboo.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4170083.stm

It doesn't matter if he is smarter than a head of lettuce or not - if there is a predecessor, then there are successors. Racism doesn't decrease because humans changed their mind, but because they are forced to due to mass media opinion and laws.

You want the state of racism? Here:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=89d_1179123720

 

[Marquis]

This is coming up because I have a new potential sub that I am talking to who happens to be a black woman. Myself, you can't get much whiter than I as anyone on here who has seen my picture or has met me can attest to.

We have a good vibe, and race is not a deterrent to either of us, so its all good. However, it got me thinking about race-play. (which is something my deviant mind started pondering instantly... go me)

Playing with the race taboo is something that her and I have discussed, and will likely explore in great detail as things go on.

The funny thing is it is so acceptable to play at the Daddy-daughter taboo, but if I were to drop racial words on her or invoke pre-1863 rights to her, it would definitely turn some heads.

I remember in some other thread (too buzzed to even consider looking up the thread) Netzach saying something to the effect of "It is perfectly acceptable {to others}for me to be called a bitch or a cunt but if her were to call me a kike..."

What is it about race/ethnicity that makes it so out of bounds (which is what makes it that much more alluring to me)?

The fact that you're asking these questions is proof enough for me that any raceplay you might be into is innocent enough.

Raceplay is hot.

 

[WriterDom]

Is anything taboo between consenting adults? No "play" that I can think of. Forced amputation perhaps.

 

[rorystorm]

it is acceptable in porno for some dude to say, and i quote "suck my black cock you white whore" so no i dont think there are any race taboos involving consenting adults.
its just not the same as coming out and caling someone the n word or the k word because you dont like them on the street that for me is racism

 

[ecstaticsub]

Raceplay can be quite touchy. I think it takes a bit of time getting to know someone and how they feel before being really comfortable going there.

 

[shamegirl]

I can only echo most of the views above. If both people in the relationship are fine with it then it's got nothing to do with anyone else. Tying a sub up a slapping her silly is still taboo in the mainstream but so long as both Dom and sub are OK with the situation then no one in the BDSM scene would bat an eyelid. I can't see this being any different, the context of it being fantasy play is very clear. However some people will need that spelling out for them and some are just totally determined to be offended by anything regardless of the initial intention.

 

[Netzach]

it is acceptable in porno for some dude to say, and i quote "suck my black cock you white whore" so no i dont think there are any race taboos involving consenting adults.
its just not the same as coming out and caling someone the n word or the k word because you dont like them on the street that for me is racism

If there wasn't a taboo, he'd just be like "suck my cock." Interracial porn without some kind of messed up "mandingo" thing going on is like a needle in a porn haystack. If you happen to be one of the six people on earth who don't particularly like seeing every brown or black man in your porn as some kind of stereotype out of white guy neurosis 101 you've got a search ahead of you.

 

[bluebonnet6369]

Race and Religion

I personally have no problem with race at all. If a man would have similar interests as me and we had chemistry I say it is a go. In so many cases we have no evolved very far where this is concerned. My own parents were shoned from my mother's family because my father was not Catholic. Neither race nor religion would ever deter me from seeking a relationship. Good luck with your new endeavors.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Even the most experienced of sceners will be squicked at something unexpected.

I think if I were DM at a party and saw a white guy topping a black woman, and if it were pretty obvious that they were happy with it-- I would not be inclined to get all offended on her part, for crissake. If I heard him use the 'N' word on her, I would probably ask them to find a less socially triggering term for public play-- unless, of course, the word sent her off into a screaming orgasm in which case I would ask him to use it again!

At home, in private, you do what you're happiest doing.

 

[AimeeLamis]

It depends on the 2 people involved. If you are both comfortable with it then go for it. As a black sub I find race play very hot. For me it's like all other play. The first time I explored race play was in a long distance relationship. I think it was just as much fun for him as it was for me. In fact he was the one who initiated it.

I'm in a 24/7 relationship now with a white man. Just like I wouldn't want him referring to me as a bitch or cunt in public, the same applies to the N-word. Set your own limits and have fun.

 

[Samuelx]

To each his or her own, I guess.