I call Bullshit on The Tea Party
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tinylittlegnat
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haha
i love it
$12T debt, but don't worry, america... *you* won't have to pay for it! honest! um.... other people will pay it down for you!
That aint nothing new. It started in the 40s. Besides where were these fuckers during the Bush years when they were spending like there was no tomorrow on prescription drug plans and starting a completely pointless war over some imaginary nuclear weapons?
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Hey, Dix, the health care bill contains ½ trillion (with a T) in new taxes, and it all ain't levied on the 200K group.......
Ham Murabi
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haha
i love it
$12T debt, but don't worry, america... *you* won't have to pay for it! honest! um.... other people will pay it down for you!
Of course it has to be paid. That's the plan. You crush the rich with high taxes and inflation.
Ham Murabi
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so the master plan is to tax the rich, who, by the way, are the small business owners and employ much of america. oh yeah and they're also the ones investing capital in other companies and trading on the stock market.
brilliant!!
See. You could be an economist for Team Obama!
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It will be interesting to see
tinylittlegnat
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I'm assuming you mean ethical. Why isnt it. They benefit more from what tax dollars produce so they should pay more.
tinylittlegnat
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Who benefits more from an interstate system. Me who seldom leaves his state or Walmart who uses the interstate system for shipping and receiving of their products? Who benefits more from paved roads and working street lights and signs? Me, who goes to work and shopping on occasion. Or dominoes pizza who delivers thousands of pizzas a day making a profit on each one?
Or instead of roads bridges and tunnels how about the electric grid. Who makes more profit off of it. Me or Google?
Who profits more from public schools. Me who went through it or the economy as a whole having a workforce who can read and do math without having to search or train for those skills?(actually we all gain from it)
Businesses gain more than the working class man.
Ham Murabi
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Sucks to be you, huh? Wal-Mart, Dominos and Google are making money and you can't stand it.
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Try again you can do better.
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let's think about this for a minute.
you're talking about corporations, not individuals making over $250k annually, which is what the whole tax increase discussion thingy was really all about. but whatever, that's just a minor detail.
when corporations are charged more for stuff, do you think they'll just sit back and eat those costs? or do you think, just maybe, in an effort to keep the profits they've come to love, they'll pass those cost increases on to us, by charging more for their goods & services?
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Then why dont you advocate ending all taxes on corporations in all forms and getting rid of the minimum wage?
tinylittlegnat
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it's all or nothing with you, huh?
Not gonna answer the question? Any of them?
If all taxes of corporations do is raise prices why not eliminate them? The answer is because it wouldnt lower prices one dime. They would just see it as extra money they could keep. Walmart sells a toy truck made in China for 14 bucks. It costs the company a grand total of 25 cents. A cigarette costs less than a penny to Phillip Morris but they sell packs around 8 bucks. I dont feel sorry for any of these fuckers.
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well for one thing, i only saw one question in your post, not "any of them". and for another thing, i didn't think that was a serious question.
obviously dropping all corporate taxes is not an option, nor is eliminating minimum wage, so there's no point discussing that.
but raising their taxes i think most definitely would result in higher costs to us. and since you bring up cigarettes, let's stick with that. maybe cigs cost less than a penny to produce, i don't buy that figure but for the sake of arguments let's assume it's correct. the fact that packs sell for a lot more isn't because of phillip morris, it's because of the taxes imposed.
there's federal taxes, which just got higher
there's state taxes, and there's tons of local taxes too, at the city or county level. and these are just the exise taxes, there's other forms of taxes that tobacco manufacturers, interstate shippers, distributors, etc pay along the way. they all compete with each other, there's no monopoly, so the market system is what keeps their prices as low as possible, but when a new higher tax is thrown on all of them, they'll all raise their prices. and that lovely little increase is passed on to you, sunshine
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Hey, Dix, the health care bill contains ½ trillion (with a T) in new taxes, and it all ain't levied on the 200K group.......
It's a tax on things such as tanning beds.
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Dixon, you big dumbass...
How you gonna pay down the debt if you don't raise taxes seeing how tax cuts don't work...
How you gonna pay down the debt if you don't raise taxes seeing how tax cuts don't work...
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How are republicans going to pay down the debt, seeing how their constituents don't want to give up any of their benefits? Especially social security and Medicare. And military spending isn't getting cut.
Where are these cuts coming from that are going to get us back to surplus-ville?
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I called bullshit on them months ago.
cebalrai
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They were interviewing Tea Baggers on NPR, asking them about their ranting over government spending. They pretty much universally think there's too much spending.
When they asked what benefit they could do without or do with less of, they were silent. Instead, the protesters think we should balance the budget by eliminating "waste".
When they asked what benefit they could do without or do with less of, they were silent. Instead, the protesters think we should balance the budget by eliminating "waste".
