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Daily Texan {University of Texas} column by
By Douglas Luippold, Daily Texan Columnist
Published: Sunday, March 28, 2010

I have another donation suggestion: Contribute to Tarleton State University student John Jordan Otte, so he can produce “Corpus Christi,” a one-act play he was set to direct but was then canceled by the school’s theater department due to safety concerns stemming from the play’s controversial topic, a gay Jesus Christ living in modern-day Texas.

Otte chose to direct scenes from the Terrence McNally play for an upper-level theater class at Tarleton, located in Stephenville, about 100 miles southwest of Dallas. Otte said he wanted to direct the play to help gay Christians like himself who struggle to reconcile their sexuality and faith — a message that has clearly taken conservative Stephenville by storm.

To quell the cries of community members who were understandably offended by the play’s subject, Tarleton President F. Dominic Dottavio released a public letter stating that while he didn’t personally approve of the play, the university is legally and ideologically bound to allow the play to be performed.

Controversy grew when Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst weighed in: “Every citizen is entitled to the freedom of speech, but no one should have the right to use government funds or institutions to portray acts that are morally reprehensible to the vast majority of Americans,” he said in a statement. “Texans don’t deserve to see their hard-earned tax money used to debase their religion. This lewd display runs completely contrary to the standards of scholastic excellence and common decency that we demand in our publicly funded institutions for higher learning.”

I’m not sure which is more troubling: Dewhurst appointing himself spokesman for the morals of “the vast majority of Americans” — implying there should be a litmus test for art that is even partially state-funded — or that he has enough free time to monitor the content of college theater departments. Shouldn’t he be busy spending my hard-earned tax dollars repealing health care legislation or suing the Environmental Protection Agency?

After initially changing the play’s location, restricting the audience to only students and moving the curtain call to 8 a.m., an official from the university’s theater department canceled the show altogether, citing safety concerns.

I certainly recognize the threats as causes for concern. That said, according to an Abilene newspaper, security measures included university police, Stephenville police, 18 police cars from the Department of Public Safety, street barricades, additional resources from the Erath County sheriff’s department, the Stephenville fire department and the Department of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.
I have trouble believing all of these resources could not secure an auditorium for 40 minutes at 8 a.m. on a Saturday morning. Due to the university administration’s lackluster support for the play and students to begin with, it seems like the play’s cancellation has less to do with safety and more to do with the university finding a way to legally cancel the play and save face. It’s not that they couldn’t protect their students’ free speech — they wouldn’t.

This should have been a nonissue. It was a student-directed one-act play, the kind normally produced on a shoestring budget and attended only by friends of the cast and other theater students.
Because the theater department will be under increased scrutiny — from senior state officials, apparently — it should probably stick to producing classics that uphold the public’s moral standards. Perhaps it could produce “Oedipus Rex”; I’m sure the community would not react so harshly to incest and murder
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Shakespeare is a safe bet, too: I doubt there would be a backlash over the opiate-filled, five-act outdoor orgy “A Midsummer Night’s Dream.” Or perhaps it could produce a play that encapsulates the entire controversy — “Much Ado About Nothing.”
 
My concern is with the statement of "scholastic excellence" that Dewhurst used. Controversy and points of view that are radically different from your own and/or from what's considered "the norm," even when you vehemently disagree with them, are at the heart of scholastic excellence. Education isn't meant to give and reinforce tunnel vision, it's meant to broaden one's horizons. People who hold beliefs and opinions without really knowing why they hold them only serve to drag our society down.
 
My concern is with the statement of "scholastic excellence" that Dewhurst used. Controversy and points of view that are radically different from your own and/or from what's considered "the norm," even when you vehemently disagree with them, are at the heart of scholastic excellence. Education isn't meant to give and reinforce tunnel vision, it's meant to broaden one's horizons. People who hold beliefs and opinions without really knowing why they hold them only serve to drag our society down.

Nonsense!

A shit sandwich doesnt help anyone.
 
The whole reason the government does fund stuff like that is because it is controversial, and and private concerns don't have the eggs to promote it, i.e., it protects unpopular viewpoints from being censored.

Without it, it just gives the "backlashers" who can admit to no other viewpoint but their own, free reign to distort the public dialogue their way, and nothing ever changes.

We call that "dictatorship of the majority", but it's only ever a problem if they're on the short end of the stick.
 
He did, in his own inimitable style.

Translation: The proposed one-act play is not entertainment and is not worth supporting with anyone's money.

Og

Good translation. :)

This one-act play, I'm assuming was for this student's course work? A grade? He's paid his tuition for the class, it's his grade, right? The interesting thing to me is that he was using a state supported university to promote his form of religion, ie. he wanted to help his fellow gay Christians out by giving them a play.

Personally, I think he should be allowed to explore and express himself inside a religious context or outside of it throughout his college experience. Not sure how 'scholastic' this really is, other than to give him experience directing plays inside a theater department, but openness to all ideas has to be foundational for academia to allow students to stretch.

It's not going to be all pretty, nor is it going to all be deep or sublime, but every once in a while a Newton shows up. The rest of us just grow a little bit, I suspect, and that's good enough.
 
The whole reason the government does fund stuff like that is because it is controversial, and and private concerns don't have the eggs to promote it, i.e., it protects unpopular viewpoints from being censored.

Without it, it just gives the "backlashers" who can admit to no other viewpoint but their own, free reign to distort the public dialogue their way, and nothing ever changes.

We call that "dictatorship of the majority", but it's only ever a problem if they're on the short end of the stick.

Guvmint likes it cuz it smells like fresh dog turds and reminds everyone that the inmates still run the asylum.
 
Gov. David Dewhurst weighed in: “Every citizen is entitled to the freedom of speech, but no one should have the right to use government funds or institutions to portray acts that are morally reprehensible to the vast majority of Americans,”

Either this means there will be no plays with rape or murder in them, or it means the majority of Americans approve of rape and murder. At least we know lesbian sex is acceptable, since the RNC had no qualms about paying the $1900 tab at the LA strip club featuring the same.
 
I said this in the Ann Coulter thread and it holds true here too:

Freedom of speech does not mean you're entitled to a podium.

So does he have the right to set up his play? Yes. Does the Uni have to provide the stage? No.

Does the uni have the right to say "we're not gonna sponsor this due to security concerns"? Frankly, yes. It sucks, but hey.

That being said, the interresting part is this:

"Otte chose to direct scenes from the Terrence McNally play for an upper-level theater class at Tarleton, located in Stephenville, about 100 miles southwest of Dallas."

It was part of his coursework. Part of the curriculum apparently was to choose a play and direct scenes from it. Or maybe it was a "choose your own project" part. In either case, he did what the curriculum told him, most likely under the guidance and oversight of teachers.

And then the flippin' lt. Governor butts in? Fuck off Dewhurst and mind your own business. This is for the Uni and the board of education. Take your bigotry up with them or back off, biyatch.
 
So does he have the right to set up his play? Yes. Does the Uni have to provide the stage? No.
It does if it's going to provide the stage to all other students in this course putting on their plays.

I do find it ironic that those who tend to mock anything "PC" and an attempt to avoid offending are the ones who scream loudest against what offends them. The same folk that want tax payer dollars to go to prayer in public schools--who cares if anyone's offended?--are the same ones who decry things like this because it offends them.
 
Either this means there will be no plays with rape or murder in them, or it means the majority of Americans approve of rape and murder. At least we know lesbian sex is acceptable, since the RNC had no qualms about paying the $1900 tab at the LA strip club featuring the same.
Now, now. That's been "debunked" (kinda). Check the thread. It was all "bad" reporting...according to the RNC.
 
It's one of JBJ's attempts to be pithy - he's "setting a tone". it has no discernible meaning or cogency beyond establishing a particular ambiance.

Most conservative politics consists of this, they tend to spend very little time debating policy or even informing themselves about the issues - it's more like a social club where they all sit around and pat each other on the back for being so comfortably small minded.

i.e., it's mostly empty gesture, acting out on irrational fears and prejudice, they call this "character", but it's basically just intellectual sloth.
 
XSSVE

Mostly youre full of shit. On the otherhand the hallmark of quality writing is the ability to distill experience to its essential qualities; what you call pithy.

Government bureaucrats in fact savor the sweet aroma wafting from outhouses, especially in August; and it soothes and calms them knowing that they can ladle the fermenting broth out to the citizens in line at the soup kitchens of culture.
 
XSSVE

Mostly youre full of shit. On the otherhand the hallmark of quality writing is the ability to distill experience to its essential qualities; what you call pithy.

Government bureaucrats in fact savor the sweet aroma wafting from outhouses, especially in August; and it soothes and calms them knowing that they can ladle the fermenting broth out to the citizens in line at the soup kitchens of culture.

He's back!!!
 
XSSVE

Mostly youre full of shit. On the otherhand the hallmark of quality writing is the ability to distill experience to its essential qualities; what you call pithy.

Government bureaucrats in fact savor the sweet aroma wafting from outhouses, especially in August; and it soothes and calms them knowing that they can ladle the fermenting broth out to the citizens in line at the soup kitchens of culture.
It sounds good, but it doesn't mean anything, it's just a rhetorical noise, "Bread and Circuses", what else is new? It's been said.

To be pithy, you'd have to have some actual insight, and that would require painful and inconvenient mental activity.
 
You and I both know the bottom line here: Dewhurst gets a lot of free publicity he hopes the voters will remember come election time so he can continue to mismanage taxpayer funds, the right get's to pat itself on the back for "striking a blow" for "family values", by stopping a play nobody was going to see anyway, and then go right back to pretending they stand for "freedom".

Bread and circuses at it's puerile finest.
 
In fact, in order to conform to the established pattern, complete the irony, and get closure, it will have to eventually come out that Dewhurst himself is gay, and has a thing for Puerto Rican's or something.
 
It sounds good, but it doesn't mean anything, it's just a rhetorical noise, "Bread and Circuses", what else is new? It's been said.

To be pithy, you'd have to have some actual insight, and that would require painful and inconvenient mental activity.

Quite by accident youve stated the case for most 'art, to wit: Most artistes wanna make money, a very few want to create beauty, and some are in it to make noise.
 
Guvmint likes it cuz it smells like fresh dog turds and reminds everyone that the inmates still run the asylum.

Translation: Public funds are only used to support projects that no business person would consider - because there is no possibility of any return on the project, and those who advise public funders are ivory-tower academics who also have no idea of what will appeal to the ticket-buying public.

Og
 
It does if it's going to provide the stage to all other students in this course putting on their plays.
Indeed. Like I said, if it's part of the course, and it followed the education plan of the course, then it's nobody's business but the student and his teachers.

However, I got the impression that setting the play up for an external campus audience, was a bit of an extra ambition on that student's behalf. And then the Uni have the right to deny or allow it's premises to be used, on their discretion. I might have misread that though.

It's still a weak ass lame desicion to not allow it. All I'm saying is that I don't think it's nessecarily a first amendment issue.
 
Translation: Public funds are only used to support projects that no business person would consider - because there is no possibility of any return on the project, and those who advise public funders are ivory-tower academics who also have no idea of what will appeal to the ticket-buying public.

Og

Exactly!
 
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