A Good Master versus a Bad Master

[Powerdog16]

<<I challenge you to add to this list... it is open to subs, slaves, doms and Masters... The rules are simple... one entry submitted at a time... the format is ...

A Good Master ....
A Bad Master ...

Good luck and have fun with this one...>>

A Good Master opens every door for their slave.
A Bad Master closes them.

A Good Master induces stability
A Bad Master fosters instability

A Good Master speaks with a soft voice.
A Bad Master speaks with a loud voice.

A Good Master encourages outside contact
A Bad Master expects no other contact.

A Good Master Guides.
A Bad Master demands.

A Good Master create confidence.
A Bad Master creates fear.

A Good Master puts their slave’s needs above their own.
A Bad Master puts their own needs above all.

A Good Master deserves respect.
A Bad Master demands respect.

A Good Master Trains.
A Bad Master Punishes.

A Good Master is a friend first.
A Bad Master is never a friend.

A Good Master leaves you wanting more.
A Bad Master leaves you dreading more.

 

[Winged_Devil]

A Good Master knows that his power is given to him by his Slave/sub.

A Bad Master demands this power, when it has not been earned/given freely.

I dunno if this is what you were looking for, but it's just one way I look at things.

 

[Powerdog16]

A Good Master knows that his power is given to him by his Slave/sub.

A Bad Master demands this power, when it has not been earned/given freely.

I dunno if this is what you were looking for, but it's just one way I look at things.

<<It is quite good! Thank you! Not being too picky on these responses...>>

 

[Fira]

WOW! Good job on pointing out the differences, Powerdog!

However, it's a good thing you posted it here and not on the BDSM Talk Forum. I'd hate to see them rip it to pieces and laugh at you!

Where ever did you get such gems of wisdom?

 

[monique_minx]

A Good Master speaks with a soft voice.
A Bad Master speaks with a loud voice.

Does it matter what voice a Master does it in? Sometimes a sub needs to be yelled at to be gotten through to and sometimes a Master needs the anger release; better to yell than to pick up a flogger.

A Good Master Guides.
A Bad Master demands.

*coughs* Ummm what? A Good Master does both...hence the term Master?

A Good Master create confidence.
A Bad Master creates fear.

Fear can be a good thing; it induces excitement >> haven't heard of mindfucks have you?

A Good Master puts their slave’s needs above their own.
A Bad Master puts their own needs above all.

Who is the Master and who is the slave in your scenario just out of curiosity? I would only half agree with this one; depending on the slave's needs of course.

A Good Master Trains.
A Bad Master Punishes.

Redundant - a Good Master does both; punishment is part of BDSM no matter how you do it. The 'D' does stand for Dominance...

 

[Rayne_Clowd]

(as requested having fun)

A good master/mistress.... shares their chocolate body paint
A bad master/mistress.... has no chocolate body paint

*grins*

 

[yeishia]

Oh I'll bite as this is meant in good fun I am thinking PD the powers that be will move this to the B.D.S.M. forum soon like they did with three of mine which mentioned' bdsm and Master in the title


A Good Master /Mistress is in tune with Her/His submissive’s needs even before she /he even knows what they are.

There is no bad Master/Mistress as long as He/She continues to grow and learn, even from His/Her own mistakes: realizing that even He/She is not infallible!



A Good Master realizes the extent of the gift he had been given when his slave turns her life and trust over to him completely!

There is no bad Master the Master who fails in this regard is perhaps a pretender, in non serious role play or simply a novice who simply hasn't fully comprehended this yet and who will in time!

There you go

 

[Veroe]

A good master/mistress's power, will, dominance of their slave is unassailable like a force of nature their slave accepts as a fact of life.

A bad master/mistress's power, will, dominance of their slave is conditional like a brutal tyrant that's dependant on the oppression of their slave often only confirmed by the abuse of violence or degradation.


A good master/mistress moulds their slave towards the higher evolution of both master and slave.

A bad master/mistress tears down their slave to the inevitable self-destruction of both master and slave.


A good master/mistress knows the currency of his/her's relationship with their slave is mutual trust.

A bad master/mistress knows the currency of his/her's relationship with their slave is mutual fear.



The difference here is subjugation over slavery. I much prefer the former over the latter. T

 

[RP519]

A Good Master/Mistress Finds a smiling submissive awaiting His/Her return
A Bad Master/Mistress Calls a fearful submissive from the corner

A Good Master/Mistress Will touch with a glove of soft leather
A Bad Master/Mistress Will touch with an iron fist

A Good Master/Mistress Earns/Deserves their submissive
A Bad Master/Mistress Feels they deserve their submissive

A Good Master/Mistress Will be there
A Bad Master/Mistress Expects you to be there

When my Baby Gurll sees this, I hope she will find that I have lived up to/avoided these traits ​

 

[thelittledeadgirl]

I think that since everyone has different tastes, thresholds and limits as far as master-slave relationships, a good master and slave complement each other's preferences while exploring new levels of their sexuality. You really need to be in tune with each other's needs, wants and desires.

I guess trust is key. Knowing and being open with eachother is the only way to make the relationship work. A good master/slave relationship is symbiotic, a bad one is parasitic.

 

[monique_minx]

A Good Master is in control
A Bad Master is controlled

These are my little additions though I agree with Yeishia, as long as a Master/Mistress continues to grow and learn; recognizing that they are human and not infallible then a bad Master/Mistress does not exist within them.

A Good Master seeks and continues to learn and grow
A Bad Master thinks he knows everything and is or becomes ignorant

A Good Master recognizes there are many paths and ways to the lifestyle
A Bad Master only seeks their own way; ignoring all else

A Good Master has an open mind
A Bad Master has tunnel vision

A Good Master /Mistress is in tune with Her/His submissive’s needs even before she /he even knows what they are.

Sorry hunny but I don't agree with this one, being a dominant and being a clairvoyant are two different things. I wouldn't expect my Master to know what I need before I do The rest of them I agree with

 

[Ausus_girl13]

I realize that this thread is all in good fun, but I am a stickler for language use and the meaning behind it.

I think before you can define good vs bad for a Master (the idea of being good/bad is highly subjective) you must also define the term Master- again something highly subjective.

Then we get into the stickiness of trying to figure out RL/net differences, because there are differences, and then you have to define your relationship based on what is right for you.

I find a M/s relationship to be quite possibly the epitome of what you might have in this type of lifestyle. I have a hard time with the idea of easily collaring anyone (not pointing fingers at anyone- everyone's relationship is important to them).

And Yeishia I agree with you, to a point.. a master wince is in tune with Her/His submissive’s needs even before she /he even knows what they are simply because the level of submission that can leave the submissive without thought are highly dangerous and there has to be such a high level of interconectedness.... (I get what you are trying to say.. just elaborating on it)

Therefore I carefully submit;

A Master must not be defined in title alone, but rather by the gift of their submissive's submission. And a safe, sane, consensual master will not ever forget the importance of this gift.

 

[Rayne_Clowd]

A good master / mistress always has the key to the handcuffs, safe and secure.

A bad master /mistress lost the key and still uses the cuffs any way....oh and tells you after they have closed the lock *giggles*

 

[sallythescorpian]

I think this is very subjective and comes down to the particular dynamics in the relationship. There is no "one size fits all" for this , and what is ideal for one is too tame to meet the needs of another, and goes too far for some. Notwithstanding the aforementioned, this thread is lighthearted and in consideration of the spirit in which this is intended

A Good master is familiar with the needs of his slave, and is willing to push the envelope far enough, but not too far, to be exciting but not dangerous.

A Good Master is trusted completely, and is trustworthy.

A Good Master consideres the needs of his slave,

A Good Master always stops when his slave had reached her limit of endurance.

I dont necessarily think there is a bad Master, as such, just perhaps someone lacking in experience, or maturity.

 

[Powerdog16]

Just a side note here....

I am getting a lot of feedback about what I think a Master is, what are my thoughts about this, why am I trying to push my interpretations on others.

A Master is what you want it to be and I am not arrogant enough to even attempt to push my beliefs of what a Master should be onto any of you. My submissions to this are my opinions alone and not meant to be gospel to anyone.

You decide for yourself that a Master is, how a Master relates to you and then express it in the Good/Bad exercise... it is in fun... DO NOT OVERANALYZE THIS...

And please... since this is interpretative, please don't go in and argue what other people believe. No one anywhere has the right to push their own beliefs on other people. That is not the point of this exercise. Treat others like you want to be treated with respect and dignity.