"In MY porn, people fuck."

[Stella_Omega]

referring to this book; http://www.amazon.com/Women-Cambridge-Womens-Pornography-Cooperative/dp/0811855511
and this website; http://www.wannasnuggle.com/index/
XKCD created this strip;
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/porn_for_women.png

"Women get turned on by men doing the housework for them", it's funny, I get the joke. And when the Guitar Center catalog shows up, I drop it in my partner's lap, saying; "Porn for you, sweets!"

But I think actively marketing that joke... well, it's problematic.

I am ALL for wish-fulfillment fantasies. I harbor many of those, as do we all. But to call them "porn" does no one any good. It implies that women *sigh* don't care much about sex. Or that we don't know the difference between a clean kitchen and a screaming orgasm. We Do know-- just hope not to have to make a choice between them...

 

[Salvor-Hardon]

I saw this and emailed it to a few people.

Randal Munro is AWESOME!

 

[Handley_Page]

I first thought that the idea of a man doing the housework (as if it was completely normal and she didn't have to bother), was that he's suffering OCD, a control freak (everything 'just so') or he's the victim (?) of acute Domination.

Anything but normal.

And the cartoon was brilliant!

 

[Jagged]

Everyone likes sex it just how you get there is different is all. Actually kind of think that book is insulting to women.

 

[Huckleman2000]

[...]Or that we don't know the difference between a clean kitchen and a screaming orgasm. We Do know-- just hope not to have to make a choice between them...

One piece of the problem might be that women somehow link the two in the first place.

 

[lisa123414]

In MY porn,
There are corsets and high heels
Clothespins and whipped cream
Strap-ons and ass plugs
Dry skin and lotions
Panties and Stella

 

[Stella_Omega]

Everyone likes sex it just how you get there is different is all. Actually kind of think that book is insulting to women.

It wouldn't be, if it were presented differently. And this is why;

One piece of the problem might be that women somehow link the two in the first place.

Well the four women who created the books, they do. But they don't talk for every damn woman in the goddamned world, do they?

 

[Stella_Omega]

In MY porn,
There are corsets and high heels
Clothespins and whipped cream
Strap-ons and ass plugs
Dry skin and lotions
Panties and Stella

Yum!

Whipped cream makes a good lotion for dry skin in a pinch. of course it has to be celned off, and there's only one cleaning tool that really does the job

 

[lisa123414]

Yum!

Whipped cream makes a good lotion for dry skin in a pinch. of course it has to be celned off, and there's only one cleaning tool that really does the job

I can see I am going to have to tie you up, its the only way to get you to stop worrying about the housekeeping.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I can see I am going to have to tie you up, its the only way to get you to stop worrying about the housekeeping.

I hear you can overpower me real easy, with your superior strength and your sexy red lips.

But you'll never find the rope, because I hid it right on top of the (freshly plumped) pillows

 

[3113]

Or that we don't know the difference between a clean kitchen and a screaming orgasm.

Clean kitchen! *Faint*

(Fanning self. Say it again, Stella. Only, slowly. And mention oven cleaner this time.)

 

[Huckleman2000]

Clean kitchen! *Faint*

(Fanning self. Say it again, Stella. Only, slowly. And mention oven cleaner this time.)

HA! I've heard you're one easy off, 3113.

 

[sophia jane]

I posted this on my facebook page yesterday. Very fun. Also true.

 

[Verdad]

What a retarded book. Of course, that's my opinion of the entire genre of "how to live your life, what you and others want, and how to get it", but this one still deserves a special mention. I get the joke the book is making, but it's a really lame one.

 

[Salvor-Hardon]

In my porn:

People fuck
They explore each other, mind and body
They know little things that make each other shiver
They catch each other off guard with surprises and unexpected ideas

They tease
And tease
And tease
Then deliver more than was ever thought possible

They get inside each others heads and hearts
They think of fantasy as a starting point and then build
They dance and whisper and say the raunchiest things in the sweetest ways

They fuck in alley ways, on car hoods, in hallways, on the kitchen table and they break the bed.

They lay silently listening to each others heart race
That's my porn.

 

[Handley_Page]

In MY porn,
There are corsets and high heels
Clothespins and whipped cream
Strap-ons and ass plugs
Dry skin and lotions
Panties and Stella

Ah - a can of Stella.
Not had that in a while;
I think I'll get some
tomorrow

(Stella Artois; a Belgian beer)

 

[manyeyedhydra]

In my porn, people die.

I think there might be something wrong with me...

 

[sr71plt]

In my porn, people die.

I think there might be something wrong with me...

That, or you've been reading Michel Foucault.

 

[Saucy_Sage]

...does explain why I enjoyed watching the curling so much...

 

[Jagged]

It wouldn't be, if it were presented differently. And this is why; Well the four women who created the books, they do. But they don't talk for every damn woman in the goddamned world, do they?

No though I'm sure many women would enjoy coming home to a clean house...laundry done and a meal on the table....makes a night of sex more enjoyable since there is nothing else on your mind.

I know one friend who said she knew sex wasn't good with her husband when she was laying there thinking about her grocery list.

 

[Stella_Omega]

No though I'm sure many women would enjoy coming home to a clean house...laundry done and a meal on the table....makes a night of sex more enjoyable since there is nothing else on your mind.

I know one friend who said she knew sex wasn't good with her husband when she was laying there thinking about her grocery list.

well sure, but that is NOT PORN--
It's relationship wish fulfilment. Which I have nothing against anyway, but porn is fucking.

 

[Huckleman2000]

No though I'm sure many women would enjoy coming home to a clean house...laundry done and a meal on the table....makes a night of sex more enjoyable since there is nothing else on your mind.

I know one friend who said she knew sex wasn't good with her husband when she was laying there thinking about her grocery list.

Yeah. And that's his fault.

I'm not saying we generally have healthy social attitudes about sexuality - much the opposite - but public discourse on the subject is dominated by women. Who, apart from Dan Savage, speaks with any authority on the subject?

Yes, housework is a worry. Shopping, childcare, health, cooking meals, etc., etc. Generally, women feel as if they are disproportionately responsible for these things, and that may still be true.

However, channeling worry and a feeling of unfairness into withholding sex just reinforces the dysfunction in the relationship. Sometimes, women need to take one for the team. Even if they aren't very interested in having sex - they need to let their bodies experience arousal, and become more interested as it happens. Women do that to men a lot, and men just aren't socialized to resist very hard. Do all men begin sex with an erection? Of course not. I don't know why some women expect that they should always be hot and horny before initiating sex.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Oh man, Huck I hear you!

See, some of us have been working very hard for the right (which women, mostly, have denied to women) to distance our sex drives from those things you mention. I wanna get laid, I don't care what kind of housekeeper the dude is. If I need to care about his domestic habits, we are in a different genre. And I hate these women for backsliding us on this little point, just for marketing jollies.

 

[Handley_Page]

Oh man, Huck I hear you!

See, some of us have been working very hard for the right (which women, mostly, have denied to women) to distance our sex drives from those things you mention. I wanna get laid, I don't care what kind of housekeeper the dude is. If I need to care about his domestic habits, we are in a different genre. And I hate these women for backsliding us on this little point, just for marketing jollies.

Whoever he/she is or will be, I feel quite envious; and glad of a 4000 mile gap betixt us.

 

[oggbashan]

In my porn, in most of my stories, fucking is assumed, implied, hinted at, but rarely described.

Maybe that explains the shortage of Hs in my list.

Fetishes are described, detailed and celebrated.

Maybe that explains the shortage of Hs in my list.

There is always a story, never just a scene or an episode of coupling.

Maybe that explains the shortage of Hs in my list.

Sometimes my stories are very short, as short as fifty words; sometimes my stories are very long, as long as eight Lit pages.

Maybe that explains the shortage of Hs in my list.

Og