Some Interesting Facts

[Zeb_Carter]

Yes you make a good point, but what about where the tax money really goes.....

Mentioned earlier how many people are in prison and what for. Do you realize how comfortable those prisoners are? The average American who struggles with paying bills, providing food, and finding healthcare can barely afford it and in most cases can not get government assistance. But the prisoners have their bills paid for them, free rent, electricity, phone, gym, and medical. And who might they thank for that…….your tax money. They aren’t really working in jail so they don’t contribute to the taxes and in most cases when they are released they are back in a short amount of time.
So tell me how screwed up you think that is?

Now don’t get me wrong those who commit a crime should pay the consequences but it shouldn’t be easy time. I think they should make them do something to earn their comforts, not just have it handed to them.

Also did you know that a man who is caught steeling gets 25 yrs or more, but a rapist only get 15 yrs per account and has a protection of statue of limitation? How is it, a person can get their things back but a woman (even a man) can not forget the damage done to them.

Fuck it...shoot them all and let god, if there is such an entity, sort it out.

 

[PeachandCream83]

Really I'm not going to stoop to your level. If you disagree with me that is fine, but this thread is open to anyone who is a member. Whether I posted here first or not shouldn't place bias thoughts on my opinion. I have had family and even friends in prison and have second hand knowledge of the treatment in there. I for one am not stupid enough to get into that kinda trouble.

And secondly Michel Foucault's "Discipline and Punish - The birth of Prison" is only a book of many disagreements and judgments on the treatment of prisoners and the history of how it came to be as it is now. It is also dated and this is the here and now I'm complaining about. I’ll admit I am glad we do not enforce torture anymore, but that doesn’t mean I agree with the way it is now either.

So don’t assume you know why I’m here or what my intelligence is because I have an opinion you don’t agree with. They say when you ASSUME you make and ASS of yourself.

It's always nice to see a refugee from the "Amateur Pics" thread come over and get involved in an intelligent discourse. Please, by all means, what might you contribute to us here?

Perhaps you have read Michel Foucault's "Discipline and Punish?" Or, better still, the "Panopticon?"

Or, maybe you have studied the various writings of Noam Chomsky? The recent work of Naomi Wolf?

We are all eagerly waiting for you to enlighten us. And, even if you've read absolutely nothing in your life, perhaps you have been in prison? Ah well, if you haven't, I suspect that when you are imprisoned, you'll wish that you had a little bit of what you actually perceive that prisoners get? Comfort. You make me laugh so hard, I could cry....

 

[lesbiaphrodite]

Really I'm not going to stoop to your level. If you disagree with me that is fine, but this thread is open to anyone who is a member. Whether I posted here first or not shouldn't place bias thoughts on my opinion. I have had family and even friends in prison and have second hand knowledge of the treatment in there. I for one am not stupid enough to get into that kinda trouble.

And secondly Michel Foucault's "Discipline and Punish - The birth of Prison" is only a book of many disagreements and judgments on the treatment of prisoners and the history of how it came to be as it is now. It is also dated and this is the here and now I'm complaining about. I’ll admit I am glad we do not enforce torture anymore, but that doesn’t mean I agree with the way it is now either.

So don’t assume you know why I’m here or what my intelligence is because I have an opinion you don’t agree with. They say when you ASSUME you make and ASS of yourself.

Would you show us your tits whilst saying that, dear?

 

[Safe_Bet]

Really I'm not going to stoop to your level. If you disagree with me that is fine, but this thread is open to anyone who is a member. Whether I posted here first or not shouldn't place bias thoughts on my opinion. I have had family and even friends in prison and have second hand knowledge of the treatment in there. I for one am not stupid enough to get into that kinda trouble.

And secondly Michel Foucault's "Discipline and Punish - The birth of Prison" is only a book of many disagreements and judgments on the treatment of prisoners and the history of how it came to be as it is now. It is also dated and this is the here and now I'm complaining about. I’ll admit I am glad we do not enforce torture anymore, but that doesn’t mean I agree with the way it is now either.

So don’t assume you know why I’m here or what my intelligence is because I have an opinion you don’t agree with. They say when you ASSUME you make and ASS of yourself.

Yup. You can post any place you want. The thing you gotta realize though is that a lot of people here are going to question your veracity when you spew unfounded, undocumented and unbelievable comments such as "But the prisoners have their bills paid for them" (they are in prison , honey... it's kind of hard to earn a living wage there) or "Also did you know that a man who is caught steeling gets 25 yrs or more, but a rapist only get 15 yrs" (nice broad unfounded, undocumented statement that is... ) See what I'm talking about?

BTW, sweetie. You'd need to climb a pretty tall ladder to even see the bottom of her level. Trust me on that one, k?

 

[xssve]

The bottom 30% pay nothing.

Payroll and consumption taxes are taxes.

 

[xssve]

Increased Concentration of Taxes among High-income Households Not a Sound Justification for Reducing Their Taxes

Some have argued that the increased concentration of taxes among high-income individuals — and especially among the top one percent of the population — means their taxes need to be reduced sharply. Recent income and tax trends do not support this contention.

* A recent paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research shows that in 1998, the top one percent of the population received a larger percentage of the before-tax income in the nation than in any year since 1936. (This finding includes capital gains income. If capital gains income is excluded, the share of before-tax income the top one percent of the population received in 1998 was the largest since 1941.)(9)

* CBO data show that the top one percent of the population holds an exceptionally large share of the national income even after federal taxes are taken into account. In 1997, the last year for which these data are available, the top one percent of the population received a larger share of the national after-tax income than in any other year for which these data are available. These data go back to 1979.

Table 1 Average after-tax income gains, 1979-97
Top 1% $414,200
Middle fifth $3,400
Bottom fifth -$100

* The CBO data also show that after-tax income rose tremendously among the top one percent of the population in the 1980s and 1990s, with the gains that high-income individuals made far outpacing the gains of other Americans. From 1979 to 1997 (the years CBO studied), the average after-tax income of the richest one percent of households climbed 157 percent, or $414,000. Among the middle fifth of households, average after-tax income rose a much more modest 10 percent, or $3,400. (The figures in this paragraph are adjusted for inflation and expressed in 1997 dollars.)

CBO has not yet released comprehensive data for the years after 1997, but the CBO study concluded that the "rapid rise in the share of income going to the top of the distribution" continued at least into 1998 and 1999.(10)

Finally, the percentage of income that the top one percent of taxpayers pays in federal taxes does not appear to be at unusually high levels. It appears to be lower today than it was during most of the 1990s and the late 1970s. It is above the levels of the 1980s, when the budget was marked by large deficits and the national debt grew rapidly.

OVERALL FEDERAL TAX BURDEN ON MOST FAMILIES — INCLUDING MIDDLE-INCOME FAMILIES — AT LOWEST LEVELS IN MORE THAN TWO DECADES

 

[xssve]

In the same period the effective tax rate on the top 1% fell by 20%

The conclusions are stark. The effective federal tax rate of the top 1 percent of taxpayers has fallen from 33.4 percent to 26.7 percent, a 20 percent drop. In contrast, the middle 20 percent of taxpayers -- whose incomes averaged $51,500 in 2001 -- saw their tax rates drop 9.3 percent. The poorest taxpayers saw their taxes fall 16 percent.

Washington Post: Tax Burden Shifts to the Middle

 

[Verdad]

*The top 1% of Americans now control more wealth than the bottom 90% combined.

*World-wide porn revenues, including in-room movies at hotels, sex clubs, and the Internet, topped $97 billion in 2006—more than that of Microsoft, Google, Amazon, eBay, Yahoo!, Apple, Netflixs, and EarthLink combined.

*The football coach is the University of California-Berkeley’s highest paid “employee”; he makes about $3 million a year. Nationwide, full-time faculty positions have been disappearing, replaced by adjunct positions, with itinerant instructors barely making living wages.

*Collapsing and overwhelmed sewage systems release more than 40,000 discharges of raw sewage into our drinking water, streams and homes each year.

*One-third of our schools are in such a severe state of disrepair that it interferes with the delivery of instruction.

*We spend $8.9 billion on ICBM missile defense systems that would be useless in stopping a shipping container concealing a dirty bomb.

*A family of 4 now pays about $12,000 a year in premiums for healthcare—up about 90 percent from 2000 to 2006. About 50 million Americans are uninsured; another 25 million are “under-insured.”

*We have 2.3 million of our citizens behind bars. With less than 5% of the world’s popultion, we have 25% of the world’s prisoners (1/2 for non-violent drug crimes).

from The End of Literacy and the Triumph of Spectacle
by Chris Hedges, 2009

http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/the-end-of-literacy-and-the-triumph-of-spectacle/

A very interesting article. Close to a lot of stuff I've been thinking about, although of the stats cited I only knew the porn revenue numbers. For that, I'm indebted to Xssve, who also convinced me to read Marshall McLuhan. While I haven't finished McLuhan yet (got distracted in a completely different line of reading), I have read the other book cited in the article, whose influence on Hedges is obvious.

Neil Postman's Amusing Ourselves to Death was written in the 80's, and just as I suspected, its focus on television looks slightly comical from our point of view. Postman even prognosticates computers couldn't possibly match the influence of TV. Yet he does provide good insights into the relationship of media and public discourse, so if Hedges does anything to further that line of thought, I'd be interested in reading him.

 

[xssve]

A bit more context:

The highest-earning third of United States households pay more individual income tax than payroll tax. But the other two-thirds are paying more payroll tax than income tax.

NYT: The Regressive Tax That Does the Work

You may not think about them as you prepare your income tax returns, but for most taxpayers, payroll taxes are a bigger burden than income taxes. According to a report issued last week by the congressional Joint Committee on Taxation, for more than four out of five tax filers, employment taxes are a bigger burden than income taxes

How the tax burden has changed since 1960

No matter how you spin it, the bottom line is that the top 1% are paying more income taxes because their income is growing much faster than everybody else's, much of that wealth dependent on the infrastructure their parents and grandparents built with the taxes they paid.

Apparently the new plan is to get it while the gettin's good, and shift the tax burden onto our children.

 

[penandpaper]

*The top 1% of Americans now control more wealth than the bottom 90% combined.

*World-wide porn revenues, including in-room movies at hotels, sex clubs, and the Internet, topped $97 billion in 2006—more than that of Microsoft, Google, Amazon, eBay, Yahoo!, Apple, Netflixs, and EarthLink combined.

*The football coach is the University of California-Berkeley’s highest paid “employee”; he makes about $3 million a year. Nationwide, full-time faculty positions have been disappearing, replaced by adjunct positions, with itinerant instructors barely making living wages.

*Collapsing and overwhelmed sewage systems release more than 40,000 discharges of raw sewage into our drinking water, streams and homes each year.

*One-third of our schools are in such a severe state of disrepair that it interferes with the delivery of instruction.

*We spend $8.9 billion on ICBM missile defense systems that would be useless in stopping a shipping container concealing a dirty bomb.

*A family of 4 now pays about $12,000 a year in premiums for healthcare—up about 90 percent from 2000 to 2006. About 50 million Americans are uninsured; another 25 million are “under-insured.”

*We have 2.3 million of our citizens behind bars. With less than 5% of the world’s popultion, we have 25% of the world’s prisoners (1/2 for non-violent drug crimes).

from The End of Literacy and the Triumph of Spectacle
by Chris Hedges, 2009

http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/the-end-of-literacy-and-the-triumph-of-spectacle/

My guess is for every negative statistic here, there's a positive one to be found. For example, our education level in the last fifty years has almost doubled. (Broad socio-economic testing using the IOWA, which is a curriculum based test that measures vocabulary, math reasoning, math calculation, reading comprehension, and many other areas.)

I'm not saying there aren't problems - there are! And many of the above need quick decisive action to be solved. But many of the problems also make us who we are as a country. They enable us to live the way we do, for good or bad.

In the end it all boils down to that famous quote, "There are lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics." I like to add, "Use them carefully," with apologies to the original writer.

 

[Verdad]

In case anyone's interested, an excerpt from Hedges' book can be read here:

http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2009/07/30/book-excerpt-‘empire-of-illusion’-by-chris-hedges/

 

[Xelebes]

What does what they make have to do with it...

10% of %100,000 is far more than 10% of $1000. Why should the person making $100,000 pay 35% of their hard earned dollars, while the person making the $1,000 pays -150% in taxes?

For the one paying -150% in taxes, without it he'd be stealing your tv to survive.

 

[Pure]

hedges

very good interview:
http://vodpod.com/watch/1938035-chr...-end-of-literacy-and-the-triumph-of-spectacle

 

[JackLuis]

Just tossing this in.

We may be "better educated that in in the past but, really;



What it took to get an 8th grade education in 1895...

Remember when grandparents and great-grandparents stated that they only had an 8th grade education? Well, check this out. Could any of us have passed the 8th grade in 1895?

This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 in Salina , Kansas , USA . It was taken from the original document on file at the Smokey Valley Genealogical Society
and Library in Salina , and reprinted by the Salina Journal.




8th Grade Final Exam: Salina , KS - 1895

Grammar (Time, one hour)
1. Give nine rules for the use of capital letters.
2. Name the parts of speech and define those that have no modifications.
3. Define verse, stanza and paragraph
4. What are the principal parts of a verb? Give principal parts of 'lie,''play,' and 'run.'
5. Define case; illustrate each case.
6 What is punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of punctuation.
7 - 10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.


Arithmetic (Time,1 hour 15 minutes)
1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. Deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. Wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3,942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts/bushel, deducting 1,050 lbs. For tare?
4. District No 33 has a valuation of $35,000.. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find the cost of 6,720 lbs. Coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft.. Long at $20 per metre?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance of which is 640 rods?
10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt


U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)
1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton , Bell , Lincoln , Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, 1865.


Orthography (Time, one hour)
[Do we even know what this is??]
1. What is meant by the following: alphabet, phonetic, orthography, etymology, syllabication
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals
4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u.' (HUH?)
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e.' Name two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: bi, dis-mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences: cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane , vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks
and by syllabication.


Geography (Time, one hour)
1 What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas ?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of North America
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia , Odessa , Denver , Manitoba , Hecla , Yukon , St. Helena, Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S. Name all the republics of Europe and give the capital of each.
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give the inclination of the earth.

Notice that the exam took FIVE HOURS to complete.

Gives the saying 'he only had an 8th grade education' a whole new meaning, doesn't it?!

Also shows you how poor our education system has become and,

NO, I don't have the answers!

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The rich dont pay taxes, they offshore the money to fake charities. The people who pay the bulk of the taxes are the people who earned shit for years and finally made some money from their business or profession. They pay the taxes until they get smart like Bush and Hillary and Teddy and Bill Gates, and send their income to the Cayman Islands.

 

[minx1]

It's always nice to see a refugee from the "Amateur Pics" thread come over and get involved in an intelligent discourse. Please, by all means, what might you contribute to us here?

Perhaps you have read Michel Foucault's "Discipline and Punish?" Or, better still, the "Panopticon?"

Or, maybe you have studied the various writings of Noam Chomsky? The recent work of Naomi Wolf?

We are all eagerly waiting for you to enlighten us. And, even if you've read absolutely nothing in your life, perhaps you have been in prison? Ah well, if you haven't, I suspect that when you are imprisoned, you'll wish that you had a little bit of what you actually perceive that prisoners get? Comfort. You make me laugh so hard, I could cry....

This is slightly out of character for me, but what the hell. I really can''t abide things like this.

Hi, I'm a refugee from the BDSM forum. Do excuse me for interupting your ''intelligent discourse'.
Just so you are aware, I haven't read that much Chomsky, certainly not enough to identify myself as a chomskiest, although many of my associates would. I have however attended a talk by Naomi Wolf...so perhaps that makes me ''worthy'' of contributing to your thread.

If you don't want to engage in debate, may i suggest that you don't start a thread or if you insist on opening a topic up for discussion, at least open your mind along with it.

Voltaire (I get the feeling you might appreciate this) said ''I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it''
People have different points of view, and whether you agree with them or not, does not make them any less valid to the person making the contribution. Surely if you are as intelligent as you appear to think you are, you would be able to debate a topic without resorting to being condescending and just plain rude.

Perhaps not.

One thing is for sure though, I don't need to have read Chomsky or Wolf, to know a patronising ass when I see one. And that dear, is my contribution and one you will no doubt understand.

Would you show us your tits whilst saying that, dear?

Look I hate to shatter your illusions of grandeur, but you do realise you are an erotica site....um, dear

 

[lesbiaphrodite]

This is slightly out of character for me, but what the hell. I really can''t abide things like this.

Hi, I'm a refugee from the BDSM forum. Do excuse me for interupting your ''intelligent discourse'.
Just so you are aware, I haven't read that much Chomsky, certainly not enough to identify myself as a chomskiest, although many of my associates would. I have however attended a talk by Naomi Wolf...so perhaps that makes me ''worthy'' of contributing to your thread.

If you don't want to engage in debate, may i suggest that you don't start a thread or if you insist on opening a topic up for discussion, at least open your mind along with it.

Voltaire (I get the feeling you might appreciate this) said ''I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it''
People have different points of view, and whether you agree with them or not, does not make them any less valid to the person making the contribution. Surely if you are as intelligent as you appear to think you are, you would be able to debate a topic without resorting to being condescending and just plain rude.

Perhaps not.

One thing is for sure though, I don't need to have read Chomsky or Wolf, to know a patronising ass when I see one. And that dear, is my contribution and one you will no doubt understand.



Look I hate to shatter your illusions of grandeur, but you do realise you are an erotica site....um, dear

Feel better now? You think you've put me in my place, no?

Well, if it makes you feel better to imagine you have done so, then I'm very happy for you.

Now, run along and go back to play with your friends. This playground is open to you and everyone else, but it doesn't mean we all have to stand around singing Kumba Ya when you arrive.

You can say anything in this world you like, and so can I. Agreement is not my principle desire when starting a thread, moron. Discourse is. But, when someone comes along as ripe as the banana that I tossed off some unkind words to, I feel more than too happy to tell them they are singing up the wrong tree.

If you can't take the heat, stay out of this kitchen because it rivals the Inferno on some days.

 

[Safe_Bet]

People have different points of view, and whether you agree with them or not, does not make them any less valid to the person making the contribution. Surely if you are as intelligent as you appear to think you are, you would be able to debate a topic without resorting to being condescending and just plain rude.

Nope. What made that person's POV invalid is their unfounded, undocumented and unbelievable comments. If you are going to come on somebody's thread and disagree or make ridiculous or contradictory statements you had better be able to back them up with some facts. If you are going to spew BS like "prisoners have their bills paid for them", in this forum anyways, you will usually get called on it.

As for the condescending part... Pot:kettle, "Sweetie"

 

[lesbiaphrodite]

Nope. What made that person's POV invalid is their unfounded, undocumented and unbelievable comments. If you are going to come on somebody's thread and disagree or make ridiculous or contradictory statements you had better be able to back them up with some facts. If you are going to spew BS like "prisoners have their bills paid for them", in this forum anyways, you will usually get called on it.

As for the condescending part... Pot:kettle, "Sweetie"

Bravo!!!!

 

[PeachandCream83]

And to be honest there's no need to be rude about it.....

Nope. What made that person's POV invalid is their unfounded, undocumented and unbelievable comments. If you are going to come on somebody's thread and disagree or make ridiculous or contradictory statements you had better be able to back them up with some facts. If you are going to spew BS like "prisoners have their bills paid for them", in this forum anyways, you will usually get called on it.

As for the condescending part... Pot:kettle, "Sweetie"

Ok, I just need to make this clear since the "Sling" I used is below you and your friend; I am not sure if you misunderstood what I was trying to say. When I say their bills are paid, in short I mean they do nothing worth while in jail but beat up on each other, watch cable t.v., or work out. There is more constructive things they could be doing to contribute to their meals and free ride.

I.E.

a) They could have jobs in the facilities for the inmates to earn their way. Instead of giving them Free cable, they should help with cleaning the facility to earn t.v. time. That way we don't have to hire janitors. One cost out the door (as little as it may be).

b) Have them grow a garden and cook for the other inmates, there by releasing cooks and such for our tax money to go.

c) Take the damn gyms away, because really what do they do with the equipment anyway; they use it as weapons and hurt each other, or they get stronger so they can hurt each other or someone outside the prison when they're released; sounds like that's just a loose-loose to me as a citizen.

d) They can be made to do chores instead of being allowed to roam and get used to being there. Even better we can just down right make it a terrible place to be and dumbasses don't do dumb things to get locked up in the first place.

Maybe back when jailers could torture the inmates and brutal acts were going on people made more of an effort to stay out of trouble. We have a much better judgment system in place now that helps most innocent people get off charges. Why can't we just revert? Really, my point is even though they can't "get a job" from the outside of the facility, it doesn't mean they can't force them to earn the keep in other ways.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Ok, I just need to make this clear since the "Sling" I used is below you and your friend; I am not sure if you misunderstood what I was trying to say. When I say their bills are paid, in short I mean they do nothing worth while in jail but beat up on each other, watch cable t.v., or work out. There is more constructive things they could be doing to contribute to their meals and free ride.

I.E.

a) They could have jobs in the facilities for the inmates to earn their way. Instead of giving them Free cable, they should help with cleaning the facility to earn t.v. time. That way we don't have to hire janitors. One cost out the door (as little as it may be).

b) Have them grow a garden and cook for the other inmates, there by releasing cooks and such for our tax money to go.

c) Take the damn gyms away, because really what do they do with the equipment anyway; they use it as weapons and hurt each other, or they get stronger so they can hurt each other or someone outside the prison when they're released; sounds like that's just a loose-loose to me as a citizen.

d) They can be made to do chores instead of being allowed to roam and get used to being there. Even better we can just down right make it a terrible place to be and dumbasses don't do dumb things to get locked up in the first place.

Maybe back when jailers could torture the inmates and brutal acts were going on people made more of an effort to stay out of trouble. We have a much better judgment system in place now that helps most innocent people get off charges. Why can't we just revert? Really, my point is even though they can't "get a job" from the outside of the facility, it doesn't mean they can't force them to earn the keep in other ways.

Umm... So where are your tits. Lesbiaphrodite did ask you nicely

 

[lesbiaphrodite]

Umm... So where are your tits. Lesbiaphrodite did ask you nicely

LMFAO.

 

[PeachandCream83]

Umm... So where are your tits. Lesbiaphrodite did ask you nicely

LMFAO.

Oh I get it.....your more mad because I'm referring to you two as inmates! Oh I am soo sorry I didn't realize that was where you two met. Well that explains a lot, I'm sure you two would love to see some T&A, but really can I compare to you two? I'm sure you get your fill from the inside of four walls.

In fact I'll just leave you two to play with each other. I'm sure I'm a bore compared to what you two have in mind anyway.

Enjoy the insults you send to the dead air. Because really I don't know why anyone would give this thread another thought.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Oh I get it.....your more mad because I'm referring to you two as inmates! Oh I am soo sorry I didn't realize that was where you two met. Well that explains a lot, I'm sure you two would love to see some T&A, but really can I compare to you two? I'm sure you get your fill from the inside of four walls.

In fact I'll just leave you two to play with each other. I'm sure I'm a bore compared to what you two have in mind anyway.

Enjoy the insults you send to the dead air. Because really I don't know why anyone would give this thread another thought.

I think she's hijacking this thread. SHAME ON YOU, PeachandCream