Why don't you want HealthCare (medical insurance) reform?

[Wok]

Please, explain...

It is un-American.

it is communist.

Terrorists support it.

There is nothing wrong with profit.

 

[unregistered]

 

[koalabear]

Friend of mine broke his back two days ago in a motorscooter crash.

No insurance.....


He's already had probably 150,000 in care and surgeries.

If it had happened after UHC, he would still be waiting.

 

[JBCorbell]

If it had happened after UHC, he would still be waiting.

I guess this is an irrelevant point. You already have a health care system that could be consigned to a third world country.

Your comment is complete and utter bullshit. In a UHC world ER cases are treated immediately. You don't have to wait for a doctor or hospital to measure the thickness of your wallet before they will treat you.

 

[wisoxguy]

Yes, but apparently he'll never need to.

Isn't this a good thing?

(Unless we're talking about nonproliferation-- real, meaningful nonproliferation where nobody is developing any new nuclear weapons)

 

[RightField]

Isn't this a good thing?

(Unless we're talking about nonproliferation-- real, meaningful nonproliferation where nobody is developing any new nuclear weapons)

Some people are worried that the health care "reform" would be handled like the Chrysler bail-out. If you put health care in the hands of the government, decisions on healthcare would be made like they were with Chrysler. First, as the company was going under, the liberals took money that was supposed to be used for government purposes (detailed in the constitution) and used it to float a failed business. Second, in the course of the rescue, the liberals decided that the UAW, who strongly supported Obama in the elections, should be "rewarded" with a large ownership in the company instead of the rightful owners whom the President demonized....and this was counter to 125 years of settled bankruptcy law. Third, when it came to cut costs, the libs decided to shut down the dealerships that supported Republican candidates even though in many cases these were the largest and most profitable dealerships.

Lets go back and look at the stimulus. It was really a pork-fest of rewards for democrat/liberal leaning special interests with predictably no real "stimulus" value and yet was passed at the urging of the President and Congress as an "emergency". It was a decision made on the basis of political expediancy, and it was close to a trillion dollars and you, your kids and their kids will be paying it back....for what...so ACORN can perpetuate it's voter fraud practices with plenty of government funding all across the country?

There's a pattern that's emerging and it is disregard for the law, a pattern of deception, a blatent pandering to supporters and decisions made based on political support rather than the best interests of the country or the fine points of the legislative need.

Now you want to me to happily accept putting life and death decisions into the hands of politicians? Not.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

The number one reason why most GOP congresspersons are against health care reform...

http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothegrounduploads/lk0828d363.jpg

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Now you want to me to happily accept putting life and death decisions into the hands of politicians? Not.

But you're more than happy with those life and death decisions in the hands of an insurance company with a profit margin to make when you need expensive medical procedures.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

... or cash for clunkers...
... or the VA...
... or "Reservation-style" Health Care...





But mainly I don't want it because the Democrat Congress is smart enough not to include themselves in the plan...

... and because Republicans might runit one day; then we're REALLY fucked, right pinkstarfish Trooper?

 

[iceburg1]

one world
one peoples
one health care system
one dolphin

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

But you're more than happy with those life and death decisions in the hands of an insurance company with a profit margin to make when you need expensive medical procedures.

Of course we are.

You can sue insurance companies and you can change insurance companies.

As Hayek puts it, it is better for society if the ills that befall them come at the hands of third parties rather than at the hands of government for one is shrugged off as Fortuna (Machiavelli's word) while the latter is looked at as tyranny...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

one world
one peoples
one health care system
one dolphin

Freddie Mercury is dead One Mission Man...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

The number one reason why most GOP congresspersons are against health care reform...

...

Why is there no Tort reform included?

Could it be the Democrat Puppet Masters?

 

[iceburg1]

Freddie Mercury is dead One Mission Man...

he had the best health care money could buy at the time

and he's death

figures

 

[RightField]

But you're more than happy with those life and death decisions in the hands of an insurance company with a profit margin to make when you need expensive medical procedures.

Absolutely, it has worked very well for me over my lifetime and I've enjoyed the benefits of all the medical innovations that have taken place over the course of my life. I've had two family members "cured" of cancer and I'm delighted with the results. In other countries, as we've plainly documented many times, the chances that my family members would have survived their bouts with cancer would be half of what they were here. Further, insurance paid for most of it without a complaint and were friendly and helpful.

The current healthcare bill would vastly slash the investment in better cures and medical research and the necessary rationing would have put at least one of my elder family members at risk of whether they'd even be considered getting the needed medical care based on Rahm Emmanual's "calculus" on who receives medical care.

To answer your questions plainly and without reservation....YES!

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

he had the best health care money could buy at the time

and he's death

figures

Freddie's got a new gig?

Whatever happened to old Death?

 

[RightField]

Time for me to get to work so the libs can take my money and give it to UD.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

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Time for me to get to work so the libs can take my money and give it to UD.

GO ON STRIKE!!!

 

[iceburg1]

Freddie's got a new gig?

Whatever happened to old Death?

4 day work week

old death is French

bloody socialist bludgers

 

[SAILOR954]

PINKSTARFISH,,

For me,, it's simple,, just look around,, the economy is a wreck, the dollar is falling, the nation is on the verge of bankruptcy,,, the list goes on.

No matter how good,, or bad, the current bill is,,,, the one thing we all know is that it's well over a TRILLION dollars.

And we don't have the money. As it stands right now,, we will never live long enough (no matter how old you are) to see the day we dig our way out from under the mountain of debt that has been created in just the last 9 months or so.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

4 day work week

old death is French

bloody socialist bludgers

*chuckle*

PS - Scotland is the New France, pass it on...

 

[iceburg1]

*chuckle*

PS - Scotland is the New France, pass it on...

there's jokes

and there's things you don't yoke about
you egg head

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

I'm not all that I'm cracked up to be...


All the King's Horses
And all the King's Men
Could do no better than Aetna
When it was time to meet my end...

 

[iceburg1]

all the king's men
couldn't put it together again

which is not a bad thing in these times of over population

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

all the king's men
couldn't put it together again

which is not a bad thing in these times of over population

Less than 5% of America is developed and 90% of America lives within ten miles of an Interstate...

Bring us your tired, your poor, your huddled Mexicans.