What subjects do you like or hate in a story?

[MiliktheRed]

What subjects interest you in a story? Romance? Novels? Or are you more interested in steamier fair like erotic encounters? Is it the cutting edge that does it for you like taboos or non- consent.
As a writer it would be helpful to know what the readership is looking for. I'm writing a novel that attempts to explore various avenues of human sexuality and I'm very interested to know what people want in a story.
My apologies up front if this is the wrong forum for this thread but it is first so I'm bound to make mistakes..

 

[JoshuaGlynn]

Truly bisexual stories! They can be hard to find!

You find several that have the prerequisite of “one boy, one girl, one other,” but it typically is more a means to an end. Generally it tends to be the gateway to gay sex, either boy on boy or girl on girl. And the boy on girl often gets lost… (note, I'm not downing gay sex... it is one of my favorites.)

It is hard to find a story that is truly down the middle, and all parties involved are bi, and don’t mind sharing with each other.

I guess I should add Polly into that equation… I love a bi story about that ends with a lasting relationship between three to four (or more) people.

That being said, I like a long story, novelish length. I like an eventual end to a story… even if it leaves room for a sequel. But if a story looks like there is no end in sight, I start to loose intrest.

That’s my $.02

Joshua

 

[MiliktheRed]

That’s true. In Kelly's Passion ch 4, I wrote a light bondage scene with two girls and a guy. It was a difficult chapter to write and it did boil down to mainly girl on girl. Honestly it was probably the weakest thing I’ve written.
An upcoming chapter will include two girls and three or four guys. I will try to keep all the characters involved.
As to a plot line, I feel that a relevant story that makes sense is essential to any written work. A novel must have a real plot that moves along briskly with each chapter or the reader will start skipping straight to the erotic portion and never appreciate the rest.
Thanks for your input.
Milik the Red

 

[ericahope]

What subjects interest you in a story? Romance? Novels? Or are you more interested in steamier fair like erotic encounters? Is it the cutting edge that does it for you like taboos or non- consent.
As a writer it would be helpful to know what the readership is looking for. I'm writing a novel that attempts to explore various avenues of human sexuality and I'm very interested to know what people want in a story.
My apologies up front if this is the wrong forum for this thread but it is first so I'm bound to make mistakes..

Well, I think you'll find that there are Lit readers who like just about anything under the sun. As for me...

I like originality. Something new and different. That doesn't mean the sex has to be some taboo line no one has every crossed before (definitely not!). But the plot surrounding the sex should be a little original or have an original twist to it. There is really no subject that turns me off, within reason, but if it's the same old plot line I move on.

For example, in the lesbian category - girl goes to college and is paired with a hot roommate, she has boy troubles, roommate comforts her by seducing her. Been there, done that.

Or the incest category - One family member catches another masturbating. They get turned on and have sex. So played out.

Also, on the same subject, I don't like to start a story and within the first couple paragraphs know exactly what's going to happen or who is going to be sleeping with whom. I love it when I'm thrown for a loop and totally surprised.

So to me, originality is key.

I also like to know the motivation behind what characters do, particularly if the sex is far-fetched. I know most of what is written is fantasy and I don't have a problem with that, but if it's so out there fantasy there'd better be some good motivation for the characters. The sex can be far-fetched, but the motivation behind it should be realistic.

Average people turn me on. I like writers who make their characters human, mainly in the looks department. It gets boring reading about chiseled guys with blond hair and 12 inch cocks and tan women with blonde hair, DD breasts and amazing bodies. Next time you're at the mall look at the people who walk by. Most people are a little pudgy around the middle and have imperfections of all sorts. Oh, and very very few middle aged women have perky breasts. Most people aren't perfect. Write about them!

As for length of story, for me, if it's too long I lose interest. What's "too long" you ask? Hmmm... When I see it, I know it. I know, not helpful.

Well, I'll leave it at that for now... I hope this helps and that it was what you're looking for as far as advice goes...

Erica

 

[JoshuaGlynn]

That’s true. In Kelly's Passion ch 4, I wrote a light bondage scene with two girls and a guy. It was a difficult chapter to write and it did boil down to mainly girl on girl. Honestly it was probably the weakest thing I’ve written.

Yea... that is probably what prompted me to write my first novel, Gifted. It is about a guy that falls in love with brother/sister twins. And although I never crossed the incest line, (I drive right up to it… skirt it for a bit, but don’t actually cross over it) it was very engaging for all parties involved. I plan to add a fourth member to mix in the next book, but this one is mainly about how their relationship starts.

But I was very careful that I wanted to keep it Bisexual. And it really turned out to be a journey of discovery for the characters… and me for that matter. I’m actually really excited to see where this story continues to take me as I work on future books.

Here is a link if you want to check it out: Gifted Book One: Soulmates

Josh

 

[MiliktheRed]

I read chapter 00, it seems to be a prelude as to what is to come. Your writing flows well and the story is quite original. As there are 10 parts, it will be a day or two before I can read the rest.

 

[MiliktheRed]

As I said, my stories are meant to be an exploration of sexuality in all it's forms, from first time love for both men and women to incest and non-consent and whatever I find in between. I am interested to hear what people think and what aspect of a story turn them on.

I'm adding some links so that anyone interested can checkout my work to date.

http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=421937 This link will lead to the prelude chapter of Kelly's Passion. from there tha rest of the chapters can be found

http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=415365 This link is for Jessica and James, a Love Story. It is the story of twins that fall in love

http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=413591 This link is for Against Her Will, a non-consent story.

 

[driphoney]

What subjects interest you in a story? Romance? Novels? Or are you more interested in steamier fair like erotic encounters? Is it the cutting edge that does it for you like taboos or non- consent.
As a writer it would be helpful to know what the readership is looking for. I'm writing a novel that attempts to explore various avenues of human sexuality and I'm very interested to know what people want in a story.
My apologies up front if this is the wrong forum for this thread but it is first so I'm bound to make mistakes..

Bi. I hate bi stories. Especially two girls and one guy. Yuk. I like to be able to relate with the female. If it takes two females to satisfy that one guy, and I'm one of the females, what the hell does that say about me? And I love women ... as friends ... not as sex partners. That's just me.



You asked.


Oh no. That's not what you asked. You asked what I liked not what I didn't like! Except for the previously mentioned topic (is one genre I won't even open the list,) I find I like quite a variety whenever it's very well written. I find I can even love and get turned on by genres I would never have imagined before finding Lit. I read BDSM as a sort of rubberneck reflex. I just had to see it and fully intended to be grossed out by it. I was amazed to find myself turned on by what revolts me and in real life I would hate! But, I think it's all in the skill of the writer. This all probably dovetails with Erica's idea of originality. I love it when I run across something fresh. Then I get jealous when I compare it to my own stuff!

Good luck.

 

[CWatson]

Personally, I like character development. People are the most interesting part of life, to me.

I also like realism. It's nice to read a story about what could happen, but better to read about what would happen. It can also create some pretty shocking swerves, when you play out a fantasy (threesome, cheating, etc) and then deconstruct it by having it happen realistically, with all the hesitation, awkwardness and acrimony you'd expect.

(Of course, this is porn we're talking about, so everything I said can go directly against the wish-fulfillment we're all here for. But you can do it, if you're careful.)

 

[JoshuaGlynn]

Bi. I hate bi stories. Especially two girls and one guy. Yuk. I like to be able to relate with the female. If it takes two females to satisfy that one guy, and I'm one of the females, what the hell does that say about me? And I love women ... as friends ... not as sex partners. That's just me.

I'm not much of a fan girl on girl personally... (yes I'm probably one of the few non-gay men that dislike it) so the boy - girl - girl doesn't do a lot for me either. Not that I can't and don't read/watch it from time to time... but I just don't get the fascination.

On the other hand... being a bisexual male, boy - boy - girl is the fantasy right... lol

And I guess you made my point... I don't want to read a bi story where it breaks down to just two people. I want everyone involved! You see where you look at this as "it takes two women to satisfy one man" I want to see it as three people into each other!

Just my $.02

Josh

 

[MiliktheRed]

Well, I have to admit, I don't have any MM or bi male stories planned. I wouldn't rule it out, but it won't happen anytime soon.
I understand the need for deep, well rounded charactors and a good plot with enough twists to keep the reader interested and I attempt to weave all of that into my stories.
I've noiced that my most read stories are in the incest and non consent catagory. I wonder why that is. I have written erotic couplings, first times, and bondage but none of them attract as much attention as the others. If anyone has insight to this please let me know.
Again, if you wish to check out anything I've written, please check the links above.

 

[driphoney]

Personally, I like character development. People are the most interesting part of life, to me.

I also like realism. It's nice to read a story about what could happen, but better to read about what would happen. It can also create some pretty shocking swerves, when you play out a fantasy (threesome, cheating, etc) and then deconstruct it by having it happen realistically, with all the hesitation, awkwardness and acrimony you'd expect.

(Of course, this is porn we're talking about, so everything I said can go directly against the wish-fulfillment we're all here for. But you can do it, if you're careful.)

I think real characters are a part of what makes it fresh and original.

 

[MiliktheRed]

I couldn't agree more

 

[njailarhee]

I hate asiaphilia and just flat out racist representation of people in stories. Its totally kills my buzz. I think its a sure sign of poor writing when someone can't make a charater a human being and not just a sterotype.

It makes me avoid any story with "asian" in the tag.

 

[MiliktheRed]

Thank you for your input. I completly understand how you feel about racial stereo types. On the two occasions that I have written minority charactor (excuse my ameri-centric view) I tried to portray them as just happening to be the race that they were. Their race was not a focal point of the story.
As far as asain women go, I personally find them to be among the most beautiful in the world, so perhaps I might have dwelt on that a bit more than was necessary in chapter 4 of Kelly's Passion. I would certainy hope no one would be offended by my use of a Korean charactor.

 

[loneflame]

I hate it when a story gets to the sex part and the guy is huge. I especially hate the line: "She winced with pain as he bottomed out on her cervix."
How is that sexy? That just sounds painful and wrong. Not to mention, at that point oral and anal are pretty much out of the question. Speaking from experience, when a guy is that big there's not going to be a repeat performance.

 

[ericahope]

I hate asiaphilia and just flat out racist representation of people in stories. Its totally kills my buzz. I think its a sure sign of poor writing when someone can't make a charater a human being and not just a sterotype.

It makes me avoid any story with "asian" in the tag.

Obviously racist representation of people in stories is bad. I've yet to read a story that displayed flat-out racist thinking. But I also don't like stereotypes because, as you said, they're pretty lazy writing. I think the "hung like a horse" black guy is soooo played out.

Erica

 

[MiliktheRed]

cock size

"I hate it when a story gets to the sex part and the guy is huge. I especially hate the line: "She winced with pain as he bottomed out on her cervix."
How is that sexy? That just sounds painful and wrong. Not to mention, at that point oral and anal are pretty much out of the question. Speaking from experience, when a guy is that big there's not going to be a repeat performance."
-loneflame


One of the first pieces of advice from readers I ever received was not to describe a mans cock as being overly large. I actually went back and re edited such nonsense out of the story she was commenting on.
I think some male writers fall into that trap because of the misconception that size is what is most important to women rather than how he uses what he has.
In chapter 5 of Kelly's Passion I was careful to avoid this mistake with a black charactor. So far, the reaction that story has gotten shows the validity of your point.

 

[swampydonkey]

I like romantic story all time. Because I am a playboy like to do romance with girls. I am here looking for incestuous story it attracts me too much

 

[sr71plt]

I don't like anything that dehumanizes any of the characters or involves feces or urine. Prolonged pain and degradation are a turnoff for me. Not a long list.

Oh, and I can only take so much sugar and valley girls.

 

[driphoney]

I don't like anything that dehumanizes any of the characters or involves feces or urine. Prolonged pain and degradation are a turnoff for me. Not a long list.

Oh, and I can only take so much sugar and valley girls.

At the risk of sounding daft, what do you mean? In what way dehumanize? And sugar? Valley girls?

Personally, I was a little fearful when I send my sugary romance off to male editors! I couldn't imagine them keeping the gag reflex under control while reading through it. But since then, some of the best romantically written stories I've read here were by men.

And SR, in your own clean style, you write a quite romantic story, now that I think about it. So, maybe sugar is not equal to romance. Something for me to think about.


In regards to other comments concerning penis size. I think maybe the How To I read once on here that said it's okay sometimes to let a man be 'hung' or a woman be blonde is right. Sometimes it's fun, but you do need to be careful. Just because it's overdone and/or cliche-ed doesn't make it always bad. In my first story I tried to made my male well-endowed while not dwelling on it too much. Why? Cause he's my fantasy and I wanted him to be! But he was African-American and the last thing I wanted was to make him some sort of caricature or as one friend said, "not a Mandingo-long-dong." As a matter of fact, it was anger at just those stories that prompted me to make an attempt to write a successful, black male in a normal relationship, having a full personality. But I digress, in my next story, I'm not going to describe penis size. And by the way, this same conversation applies to women and body parts in stories.

Oh, and if you want incest . . . boy, have you come to the right place.

 

[sr71plt]

At the risk of sounding daft, what do you mean? In what way dehumanize? And sugar? Valley girls?

Personally, I was a little fearful when I send my sugary romance off to male editors! I couldn't imagine them keeping the gag reflex under control while reading through it. But since then, some of the best romantically written stories I've read here were by men.

And SR, in your own clean style, you write a quite romantic story, now that I think about it. So, maybe sugar is not equal to romance. Something for me to think about.


In regards to other comments concerning penis size. I think maybe the How To I read once on here that said it's okay sometimes to let a man be 'hung' or a woman be blonde is right. Sometimes it's fun, but you do need to be careful. Just because it's overdone and/or cliche-ed doesn't make it always bad. In my first story I tried to made my male well-endowed while not dwelling on it too much. Why? Cause he's my fantasy and I wanted him to be! But he was African-American and the last thing I wanted was to make him some sort of caricature or as one friend said, "not a Mandingo-long-dong." As a matter of fact, it was anger at just those stories that prompted me to make an attempt to write a successful, black male in a normal relationship, having a full personality. But I digress, in my next story, I'm not going to describe penis size. And by the way, this same conversation applies to women and body parts in stories.

Oh, and if you want incest . . . boy, have you come to the right place.

I don't purposely read anything in which one of the partners is demeaned. Need to separate here. I have, on occasion, WRITTEN stories where one of the partners is demeaned, but that was plot driven and I do everything I can to write across the spectrum. I don't write much of that, though.

I'm a diabetic. There's a point at which the sugar in a story spills in my veins and I have to drop it with a "yuck." I can't define where that is. It's just there about the time I think "yuck."

Nice of you to say I can write romance--and I'm busting my butt now to put together an anthology for next March that will be all GM romance (titled Creampuffs), but reviewers constantly say I write rough, not romance. And on the books I've cowritten with my writing partner (Sabb), reviewers say there's a nice justiposition of the romance and the rough, but damned if they don't correctly point out the romance as Sabb's and the rough as mine (we have a book coming out in 17 August, entitled I Met a Man, where we've purposely tried to reverse that).

As for valley girls, I don't like bimbos (this despite having gotten a nice paycheck in the mainstream for writing a story where a bimbo is the only one who says anything in the entire story).

Oh, and incest. Not really my bag either. I tried one here a year or so ago--with pretty good success--but I had to set the incest up as unknown to the protagonist until too late. And the most recent, more daring, incest story I have posted here, earned--just today--the only hate e-mail I've received on a Lit. story this year--anonymously, of course.

Penis size. Nearly all of my black men have big penises (not only in Lit. stories, but in real life). I'll stoop to write to stereotype to get strokes out of an intentional stroke story. And guess, what. those are the stories that get high readership and are voted high here--at least on my list. My literary stories only attract a small, select readership. (Nicely loyal, though.) I always have a well-hung man around in my stories. They sell.

 

[MiliktheRed]

I've written one incest story and it was successful enough. over 12k reads 160 votes with a 4.41 rating. It was one of the easiest stories I've written but I'm not in a hurry to revisit the subject. Maybe it's just me but it isn't a subject matter that I'm proud to have delved in.

I'm currently working on a post-apocalyptic sci fi story that will be much more about the story than the sex. I'm very interested in seeing how it does when it is complete.

When I read stories, I find that I perfer them to be written from the womans point of view. For me, that is always far more erotic.

 

[penandpaper]

Character development and fluidity in a story are perimount in my opinion. The rest is contextual. I can take it or leave it. I do, however, tend to avoid incest, rape, urine/feces, smoking and minors. I've tried reading them, but it seems to overpower the entire story and then it's all downhill from there.

As far as demeaning acts, as long as the story supports the character in that situation, then it's generally still a turn on.

 

[njailarhee]

Obviously racist representation of people in stories is bad. I've yet to read a story that displayed flat-out racist thinking. But I also don't like stereotypes because, as you said, they're pretty lazy writing. I think the "hung like a horse" black guy is soooo played out.

Erica

I've seen some bad one, the worst is from this one author BBC, not only is the writing bad the stereotypes as cringe worthy.