Where are all the men?

[midwestyankee]

No I hadn't noticed. You're being very smart alec-y this am MWY. Loincloth too tight?

I need a morning beverage.

I still like Kipling's poem.

If my loincloth were too tight, my humor would be more pointed, don't you think?

 

[Sir_Winston54]

If my loincloth were too tight, my humor would be more pointed, don't you think?

I didn't know they made Hello Kitty loincloths, too!




You know you're never gonna live that down, right?

 

[Keroin]

If my loincloth were too tight, my humor would be more pointed, don't you think?

Groan.

We did it! No more jumbo Dalai.

I have a very risque loincloth story...hm, probably not the right thread for it.

Anyway, before I go to make my hot chocolate, I was in bed with Chuck the other night and he said, "K, you got no tits and a tight box."

I said, "Chuck, get off my back!"



Badump bum

 

[midwestyankee]

Groan.

We did it! No more jumbo Dalai.

I have a very risque loincloth story...hm, probably not the right thread for it.

Anyway, before I go to make my hot chocolate, I was in bed with Chuck the other night and he said, "K, you got no tits and a tight box."

I said, "Chuck, get off my back!"



Badump bum

I look around and I see that all the judges are scoring this one in the low 2s, with a single 3.1.

Better luck next time.

 

[midwestyankee]

I didn't know they made Hello Kitty loincloths, too!




You know you're never gonna live that down, right?

I'm not at all sure what I ever did that involved Hello Kitty in any fashion, so what do I have to live down? And since you're the only one who keeps bringing this up, perhaps you should be inspecting your drawers for the famous kitty's face yourself.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

I'm not at all sure what I ever did that involved Hello Kitty in any fashion, so what do I have to live down? And since you're the only one who keeps bringing this up, perhaps you should be inspecting your drawers for the famous kitty's face yourself.

I dunno, Yank. For some reason, it just popped into my mind way back earlier in the thread, and it tickles my sense of disproportion. I guess I'll let it die... <sigh> but I did get some much-needed chuckles out of it.

 

[midwestyankee]

I dunno, Yank. For some reason, it just popped into my mind way back earlier in the thread, and it tickles my sense of disproportion. I guess I'll let it die... <sigh> but I did get some much-needed chuckles out of it.

Fair enough. I was just hoping that I hadn't done anything stupid like drubnk posting with a Hello Kitty av or something.

 

[Keroin]

I look around and I see that all the judges are scoring this one in the low 2s, with a single 3.1.

Better luck next time.

I'm pretty sure I stole that one from Sophie Tucker.

I dunno, Yank. For some reason, it just popped into my mind way back earlier in the thread, and it tickles my sense of disproportion. I guess I'll let it die... <sigh> but I did get some much-needed chuckles out of it.

You know, SW, next time Yanks has his half-naked torso or his Tarzan av up I'm thinking you have a new photo shop project! Heeeellllllooooo Kitty!

Mwa ha ha.

 

[midwestyankee]

I'm pretty sure I stole that one from Sophie Tucker.



You know, SW, next time Yanks has his half-naked torso or his Tarzan av up I'm thinking you have a new photo shop project! Heeeellllllooooo Kitty!

Mwa ha ha.

Keroin, are you aware of the legions of women who will be disappointed to learn that I might never show either of those avs again?

 

[Keroin]

Keroin, are you aware of the legions of women who will be disappointed to learn that I might never show either of those avs again?

Are you aware of my new fetish? Having rocks thrown at me by an angry mob?

 

[midwestyankee]

Are you aware of my new fetish? Having rocks thrown at me by an angry mob?

You do this often in your playgroup? Wild!

 

[satindesire]

I agree, but I think that crabs, lobsters, and shrimp are bugs. *shrugs*

There's a great mental picture. lol

They ARE bugs. Giant water bugs. And people eat them. Yet they say "Ew" when they see someone eat a scorpion on TV.

I'm allergic, so I can't eat them. But honestly, even if I wasn't allergic, I wouldn't want to eat them. I don't care if Red Lobster has a fancy-schmancy "Wood Fire Grill" and all that jazz.

And you're quite welcome. I provide a good laugh service bi-weekly, free of charge!

I didn't know they made Hello Kitty loincloths, too!

OOOH! EPIC BURN! XDDDDDDD!!!1!

High Five. That was awesome.

 

[Netzach]

I'm not that crazy about lobster and crab, but raw bar? I can't be kosher faced with raw bar. If it's got a texture like a booger and tastes like the ocean, I'm on it.

 

[00Syd]

I'm not that crazy about lobster and crab, but raw bar? I can't be kosher faced with raw bar. If it's got a texture like a booger and tastes like the ocean, I'm on it.

Word.

And crab, eh, but Lobster is like eating meat made of butter.

 

[midwestyankee]

Word.

And crab, eh, but Lobster is like eating meat made of butter.

This is one of the best descriptions of eating lobster that I've ever read. Marvelous.

 

[Keroin]

Word.

And crab, eh, but Lobster is like eating meat made of butter.

Mmmmmm, butter transport device. *Drools*

I'll happily eat lobster if it's free. That is to say, if I catch it myself. In the Caribbean I ate so much lobster I got sick of it. Then I remember coming home and going out for dinner with a friend and the waitress telling me lobster was on special...for $40! Needless to say, there was much chuckling.

But crab...oh my...how can one refuse crab? Dungeoness, fresh out of the water and onto my plate. Yumma, yumma, yumma.

There's a place in Baja, Mexico, way off in the middle of hell and gone where you can buy the best oysters in the world for next to nothing. I don't like them raw and snotty, though, I like mine BBQ'd , with Herdez salsa on top. Heaven!

Great. Now I'm hungry again.

Oh, I'd eat bugs, too, no problem.

 

[JMohegan]

For the work I do several of us tried to draft a "Real Man" description and just gave up.

Pro football (USofA style) star Don McPherson states: “We don’t raise boys to be men. We raise boys not to be women or gay“

Football coach Joe Ehrmann suggests: athletic ability, sexual conquest and economic success— are constantly held up in our culture as measurements of manhood.

"Those are the three lies that make up what I call ‘false masculinity,'" Ehrmann says. "The problem is that it sets men up for tremendous failures in our lives. Because it gives us this concept that what we need to do as men is compare what we have and compete with others for what they have.

Locally we settled with this: "Genuine masculinity requires each and every male to craft their own definition of being male, free from imposed and negative cultural influences as much as possible, while choosing to reject the use of violence, force, coercion and abuse as part of any “male model”."

I like the idea of defining a genuine man as a mature and ethical adult with cock and balls. Respectfully, Shank, I'm not so sure about the rest of this.

There *is* such a thing as boy energy, and there is such a thing as male aggressiveness. Levels vary, of course, but most healthy males exhibit this energy/aggressiveness to at least a certain degree.

Some females exhibit those traits; most don't. Whether more females would exhibit those traits, had they not been socialized out of girls since early childhood, I don't know.

There are ways to channel male energy and aggressiveness that are responsible, and ways that are not. Rather than denying or attempting to suppress this part of a healthy male, I would respectfully suggest that one distinguishing trait of a "genuine man" is that he has learned how to channel his forcefulness in a mature and ethical fashion.

 

[Netzach]

Mmmmmm, butter transport device. *Drools*

I'll happily eat lobster if it's free. That is to say, if I catch it myself. In the Caribbean I ate so much lobster I got sick of it. Then I remember coming home and going out for dinner with a friend and the waitress telling me lobster was on special...for $40! Needless to say, there was much chuckling.

But crab...oh my...how can one refuse crab? Dungeoness, fresh out of the water and onto my plate. Yumma, yumma, yumma.

There's a place in Baja, Mexico, way off in the middle of hell and gone where you can buy the best oysters in the world for next to nothing. I don't like them raw and snotty, though, I like mine BBQ'd , with Herdez salsa on top. Heaven!

Great. Now I'm hungry again.

Oh, I'd eat bugs, too, no problem.

It's part underwhelmedness at the meat it's part guilt complex. They have eyes on stalks and they're older than my mom. Sea kittens!

 

[Netzach]

There are ways to channel male energy and aggressiveness that are responsible

Like competitive voguing.

There may be some point to this, in that really feminine men tend to be really masculine about their femininity.

I think aggression in women is under-studied and usually turns inward in masochistic fashion. Or onto children given no appropriate outlet and no sufficient coping strategies.

I don't know that everyone has to have enough T to have free floating aggression that must be channeled though. I agree that T will do that to you, there are biological imperatives we ain't getting away from, but some guys seem to have it under control more than others inherently.

I'm thinking about my ex. A very high-functioning, vanilla, woman-supportive, not wildly butch guy without being a wuss either. Sports: kayaking, and x country. Like me, a "leave me alone" kind of personality in relation to hierarchy. I never found him to have that punch the wall impulse, not remotely as much as I do.

 

[JMohegan]

I'm thinking about my ex. A very high-functioning, vanilla, woman-supportive, not wildly butch guy without being a wuss either. Sports: kayaking, and x country. Like me, a "leave me alone" kind of personality in relation to hierarchy. I never found him to have that punch the wall impulse, not remotely as much as I do.

He's not punching walls, he's fighting rapids and expending energy over hill & dale instead.

Sports = the healthiest, most efficient means of channeling energy & aggressiveness ever devised. Unfortunately, money and/or inappropriate coaching pervert the outlet in many cases.

 

[Netzach]

He's not punching walls, he's fighting rapids and expending energy over hill & dale instead.

Sports = the healthiest, most efficient means of channeling energy & aggressiveness ever devised. Unfortunately, money and/or inappropriate coaching pervert the outlet in many cases.

I guess, but I think it's pretty clear that everyone's not moving his *or* her duff around enough. The fact is, exertion = psych med. And it wasn't like he went every day, he just had one of those freakish sit around and be muscular and lean metabolisms. Even now.

And girls are normally given the don't run around and get dirty meme. We may have less T but we definitely like endorphins as much as the next brain.

 

[JMohegan]

I guess, but I think it's pretty clear that everyone's not moving his *or* her duff around enough. The fact is, exertion = psych med.

I agree, and this is a big part of my point.

If I understand the goal of Shank's work correctly, he is trying to fight abuse, reduce male non-consensual violence against women, that type of thing.

 

[Netzach]

I agree, and this is a big part of my point.

If I understand the goal of Shank's work correctly, he is trying to fight abuse, reduce male non-consensual violence against women, that type of thing.

Understood.

I'm just wondering if some of the same approaches being considered for men applied to women would cut down on the large numbers of them who smack the shit out of their boy children, which is possibly an overlooked risk factor.

 

[00Syd]

This is one of the best descriptions of eating lobster that I've ever read. Marvelous.

*bows*

Mmmmmm, butter transport device. *Drools*

I'll happily eat lobster if it's free. That is to say, if I catch it myself. In the Caribbean I ate so much lobster I got sick of it. Then I remember coming home and going out for dinner with a friend and the waitress telling me lobster was on special...for $40! Needless to say, there was much chuckling.

But crab...oh my...how can one refuse crab? Dungeoness, fresh out of the water and onto my plate. Yumma, yumma, yumma.

There's a place in Baja, Mexico, way off in the middle of hell and gone where you can buy the best oysters in the world for next to nothing. I don't like them raw and snotty, though, I like mine BBQ'd , with Herdez salsa on top. Heaven!

Great. Now I'm hungry again.

Oh, I'd eat bugs, too, no problem.

HA.

I went to Summer Camp in Maine for 2 months a year for 8 years of my childhood. Once a summer the camp put on a clam bake for all the campers, councilors, and staff. There weren't actually any clams, but there was tons of cornbread, salad, potatoes, and other yummy such food. You got to choose between having a WHOLE LOBSTER to yourself or a little piece of steak. Now, keep in mind, the vast majority of the girls are under 12 years old, and the lobsters were maybe twice the size of their heads. And they got a whole one, to themselves. At that time, lobsters were pretty frightening. They looked icky and had antennas and you had to wrestle with them to get anything edible.

So, I always got the steak.

*head desk*

Only in my last year at that camp did I get the lobster and I'm very glad that I did but it only made me regret my previous choice even more.

Oy.

To have free, self-caught lobster so often that you get sick of it? Heaven.

And I don't know about crab. Maybe I've just had so much fake crab in my life that I'm sick of the very idea of it. I'll have to give crab another go.

And as for oysters, the colder and snottier the better, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[JMohegan]

Understood.

I'm just wondering if some of the same approaches being considered for men applied to women would cut down on the large numbers of them who smack the shit out of their boy children, which is possibly an overlooked risk factor.

I think there's a difference between inherent, healthy energy/aggressiveness on the one hand, and the need to let off steam in response to stress, frustration, anger, etc. on the other.

I'll write more on this later, when I'm not pressed for time.