Impregnating and Domination - Is there a link

[Aggressive One]

I don't hide the fact that I think the idea of impregnating a woman is highly erotic to me. But I was curious as well to the role it plays when it relates to D/s.

True submission, in my eyes, is a gift. And I can see no greater gift than for a woman to give herself in a way she is letting a man claim her womb with his seed.

The ultimate mark upon a woman's body. A collar can be removed, but when her round tummy on display for all to see, that is the ultimate submission.

Thoughts?

 

[CutieMouse]

I don't hide the fact that I think the idea of impregnating a woman is highly erotic to me. But I was curious as well to the role it plays when it relates to D/s.

True submission, in my eyes, is a gift. And I can see no greater gift than for a woman to give herself in a way she is letting a man claim her womb with his seed.

The ultimate mark upon a woman's body. A collar can be removed, but when her round tummy on display for all to see, that is the ultimate submission.

Thoughts?

I suppose there are those who have a "breeder" fetish, which one might be able to extrapolate into a D/s sort of arrangement... the whole "if you can think it up, there's a kink for it" and all that.

I'll refrain from personal comments on the concept.

 

[00Syd]

Impregnation is not too me, inherently erotic or D/s, but just about anything can be D/s if thought about in the right way. If its D/s to you, great, but it may not be to everyone else.

 

[Scotsman69]

I suspect the 'Aggressive one' has never had to raise a child....

 

[Aggressive One]

I suspect the 'Aggressive one' has never had to raise a child....

Incorrect... I have indeed raised children.. more than one as well. And still do

 

[the captians wench]

I think there is something very basic built into all of us to connect the ability to produce children with masculinity or femininity. The idea of "I am a man and can prove it by how many sons I have".

Yes there is some basic instint there, I think, but to romantisize it might be dangerous.

 

[Sweetone70]

I don't hide the fact that I think the idea of impregnating a woman is highly erotic to me. But I was curious as well to the role it plays when it relates to D/s.

True submission, in my eyes, is a gift. And I can see no greater gift than for a woman to give herself in a way she is letting a man claim her womb with his seed.

The ultimate mark upon a woman's body. A collar can be removed, but when her round tummy on display for all to see, that is the ultimate submission.

Thoughts?

I agree with you..submission is a gift..it shows the love and trust you have for the other person...and receiving a child from that union would be to me the ultimate submission to him..by no means should this be a casual game..it's not..and if I were to have another child it would be with only one man..and I can think of nothing more erotic than letting him claim me in that way..

 

[Scotsman69]

I apologise, Aggressive One. There are just too many men who have fantasies, with no idea of the responsibility that follows the primal joy impregnating their partner's needy cunt.

I'm glad you're not one of them.

I have raised three children and at the age of 62 would love to start again, now I have finally found my life-mate.

 

[Aggressive One]

I apologise, Aggressive One. There are just too many men who have fantasies, with no idea of the responsibility that follows the primal joy impregnating their partner's needy cunt.

I'm glad you're not one of them.

I have raised three children and at the age of 62 would love to start again, now I have finally found my life-mate.

Not a problem Scotsman. Most men think I am crazy for my cravings anyway. My feeling is that they only see the added responsibility down the road and don't look to the true meaning of it.

 

[CutieMouse]

Not a problem Scotsman. Most men think I am crazy for my cravings anyway. My feeling is that they only see the added responsibility down the road and don't look to the true meaning of it.

Please explain the 'true meaning of it'.

 

[graceanne]

You can connect just about anything with domination if you think it's hot.

I don't think it's hot, but then I hate being preggers.

 

[Scotsman69]

The intense joys and pleasures (and horrors of course!) of helping your babies grow into lovely children, and into caring decent adults? (I can't speak for Agg One of course, only for myself.)

 

[Prettygreeneyedkitty]

Aggressive one...

...thank you for opening my mind to this ideology.

Though I've taken part in such a role-play as what you describe, I never thought of my own two pregnancies in that way. I find your way of thinking to be highly erotic.

Thanks.

I don't hide the fact that I think the idea of impregnating a woman is highly erotic to me. But I was curious as well to the role it plays when it relates to D/s.

True submission, in my eyes, is a gift. And I can see no greater gift than for a woman to give herself in a way she is letting a man claim her womb with his seed.

The ultimate mark upon a woman's body. A collar can be removed, but when her round tummy on display for all to see, that is the ultimate submission.

Thoughts?

 

[CutieMouse]

Please explain the 'true meaning of it'.

The intense joys and pleasures (and horrors of course!) of helping your babies grow into lovely children, and into caring decent adults? (I can't speak for Agg One of course, only for myself.)

That would define the [ideal] 'true meaning' of Parenting, not D/s.

I'm interested in the OP's 'true meaning' of impregnating a woman as it pertains to a D/s dynamic.

How is it an act of Dominance/submission?
What is the point of said act re: Dominance/submission?

 

[sunandshadow]

I would really like to get pregnant but I'm not a submissive and don't think of in in terms of submitting; although there is some vulnerability inherent in gambling on a particular male, trusting that he will want to provide for his children and help raise them.

 

[Aggressive One]

That would define the [ideal] 'true meaning' of Parenting, not D/s.

I'm interested in the OP's 'true meaning' of impregnating a woman as it pertains to a D/s dynamic.

How is it an act of Dominance/submission?
What is the point of said act re: Dominance/submission?

Sorry for the delay...

The natural order of nature is for the male to be dominant. By taking a woman who is fertile and getting her pregnant he is obeying natures most basic natural order.

I'm not here to convince anyone to see it the way I do.

Just expressing my feelings on the matter.

 

[CutieMouse]

Sorry for the delay...

The natural order of nature is for the male to be dominant. By taking a woman who is fertile and getting her pregnant he is obeying natures most basic natural order.

I'm not here to convince anyone to see it the way I do.

Just expressing my feelings on the matter.

Thank you for your response.



This could turn into one of those fascinating conversations/debates, you know.

 

[BiBunny]

Lucky for me, I don't think submission is a gift, since I can't give that particular "gift" to my Master because neither of us can have children. And thank God for that because I do not like children and would be a terrible mother.

 

[Aggressive One]

Thank you for your response.



This could turn into one of those fascinating conversations/debates, you know.

An open exchange of thoughts and ideas is always the best way to grow as a person.

 

[CutieMouse]

An open exchange of thoughts and ideas is always the best way to grow as a person.

It's definitely one way...

Sorry for the delay...

The natural order of nature is for the male to be dominant. By taking a woman who is fertile and getting her pregnant he is obeying natures most basic natural order.

I'm not here to convince anyone to see it the way I do.

Just expressing my feelings on the matter.

No one has to be convinced; one of the nice things about Lit is the freedom to speak one's mind.

Your statement shows the Dominant in said scenario to be Nature, not Man. Man simply acts [submits] to the basest of urges set in motion by Nature.

Your statement also implies that men who are not Dominant, and women who are, are unnatural; those who choose to not reproduce would be (according to the whole natural order theory), as well.

Any fool on the planet can wander around dipping his wick and proving he doesn't "shoot blanks"; I still fail to see the connection between impregnation and Dominance/submission.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

I think there is a link, depending on how you view D/s and family. The woman's submission to being impregnated is one aspect but deeper than that is the woman's submission to carrying, delivering, nursing and raising that child as few men are primary caregivers. Her life is irrevocably changed and her options limited, whether she has kids already or not. There is also an element of submission in allowing a PYL to decide at what time of her life/stage of a D/s relationship a woman becomes pregnant.

I have zero desire to procreate and luckily, my Master is of the same mind but I can see how it could be an extension of D/s if both parties chose to view it that way.

 

[graceanne]

Sorry for the delay...

The natural order of nature is for the male to be dominant. By taking a woman who is fertile and getting her pregnant he is obeying natures most basic natural order.

I'm not here to convince anyone to see it the way I do.

Just expressing my feelings on the matter.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/graceanne1978/iStock_canofworms.jpg

It's definitely one way...



No one has to be convinced; one of the nice things about Lit is the freedom to speak one's mind.

Your statement shows the Dominant in said scenario to be Nature, not Man. Man simply acts [submits] to the basest of urges set in motion by Nature.

Your statement also implies that men who are not Dominant, and women who are, are unnatural; those who choose to not reproduce would be (according to the whole natural order theory), as well.

Any fool on the planet can wander around dipping his wick and proving he doesn't "shoot blanks"; I still fail to see the connection between impregnation and Dominance/submission.

See?

And honestly, I agree. I don't think getting a chick preggers makes you a dominant or whatever. The number of dad free kids in the world proves that.

 

[Scotsman69]

Knowing the state of her fertility as I fuck her, the openness of her cunt after I've abused her, forces me to spunk her pregnant...

 

[Scotsman69]

and she knows I will stay for it all, accept all my responsibilities with a joyous heart

 

[CutieMouse]

I think there is a link, depending on how you view D/s and family. The woman's submission to being impregnated is one aspect but deeper than that is the woman's submission to carrying, delivering, nursing and raising that child as few men are primary caregivers. Her life is irrevocably changed and her options limited, whether she has kids already or not. There is also an element of submission in allowing a PYL to decide at what time of her life/stage of a D/s relationship a woman becomes pregnant.

I have zero desire to procreate and luckily, my Master is of the same mind but I can see how it could be an extension of D/s if both parties chose to view it that way.

This I can sort of in a very alternate universe kind of way understand. The pyl submits to the PYL's decision re: when to get pregnant, possibly how to give birth, how the child would be raised, yadayadayada. A stretch, but I can see it.

It does make me wonder though - a little while ago OSG mentioned that her Master made the decision she would terminate a pregnancy. A few people mentioned discomfort at the idea. Is the concept of dominating a woman through impregnation as discomforting, and if not - why?