Concerned about under age sex in new story

[visviva2]

Although I've been reading stuff on Literotica for years, I have not previously posted anything. But recently I have been working on a story and I now feel ready to submit Chapter 1.

My concern is that an essential element of the story *might* be construed by the powers-that-be to be about under age sex. I am well aware that Literotica does not permit such story-lines.

In fact, my story is not about under age sex at all. All the characters are adults. I do not describe any sex between under age people. But the two main characters in the story are sisters, and it is important in defining their relationship that it is known that they have been sexually intimate since they were young (and that they are still intimate now that they are adults). Although this background is mentioned in the story (necessarily, I believe), their sexual activities when younger are not part of the story and are not described in detail.

What I would like to ask is if just mentioning such past activity in the context of a story where all those involved are clearly adults enough to cause any real concern? Specifically, is just mentioning such activity as background without explicit detail, going to cause my story to be rejected.

I really want to include this element of the background as the relationship between the two sisters is central to the story. I want them to have had a very close and intimate relationship during their entire lives. I do not want or need to describe any sexual activity between them as children in detail since the story is set many years later when they are both adults.

I have taken care to keep descriptions of my main character's sexual experiences (other than with her sister) to when she was 18 or older... although in reality (since the story is based on true events) she had her first sexual experience other than with her sibling at a much younger age.

So I have tried to meet Literotica's criteria in this respect. But it seems impossible to keep the story line even remotely close to what actually happened if I pretend that my main character only became sexually involved with her sister at 18 or later.

To give you a flavour of the story, here is the first part of Chapter 1:

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Chapter 1


I am naked, lying on my back with my legs spread obscenely and my head between my Owner’s feet. As I look up I can see my younger sister, who is kneeling on the couch next to my former Master sucking his cock. I slowly stroke my wet cunt as instructed. This is where I belong, and I have never been more aroused or excited. Later, if I am very fortunate, I may be allowed to lick his cum out of my sister’s well fucked cunt. This would be the icing on the cake, so-to-speak.

It already seems a long time since I brought my sister Chloe home and presented her to my Owner as his new slave, but it was only earlier this evening. I had long begged to be allowed to do so, even before I had talked her into agreeing to become his new slave... and as such, my Mistress. This was something I had desired much of my life, but had never dared to expect might become a reality until quite recently.

Once I had My Master’s agreement to my proposal, I had asked if I might be allowed to go and stay with my sister Chloe for a few days in order to persuade her to take what I considered her rightful place. Taking her rightful place would involve supplanting me as my Master’s slave and, in doing so, allowing me to sink even lower to my preferred place as an owned object with no rights whatsoever.

Usually I was not allowed out of the house unless in the company of my Master. But he well knew that my sister had always totally dominated me since she was very young, so he agreed on the condition that I told Chloe that I would do whatever she wanted without question. He was confident that her strong sadistic tendencies would be attracted by the opportunity to use and torment me without restriction once again. It was something she’d not had much chance to do since I had gone to live with my Master and I was under his protection.

I knew Chloe would enjoy being able to treat me cruelly and take everything I valued away from me once again. Even though she was younger than me by almost a year, she had always had the stronger personality and she never hesitated to take advantage of this fact while we were growing up. Like me, Chloe was deeply submissive... but only to a stronger entity that she had agreed to serve. With anyone else, she was absolutely ruthless in taking full advantage of her superiority, and using her keen intelligence to find ways in which to impose her desires on others, including me.

It had been this way since we were young children. I always had to give in to her, and allow her to do as she wished, even to my own disadvantage. However, I did not see her behaviour as selfish no matter how much I suffered at her hands. In fact we were extremely (perhaps unhealthily) close, and I loved her totally and completely. I knew that she also loved me, even though she has her own unique way of demonstrating this.

Since Chloe knows me better than anyone, she is very well aware that I prefer to show my love by suffering for those I wish to give my affection to. She also knows that by imposing her most sadistic desires on me she is only giving me what I really want, no matter how much I might protest otherwise.

My sister and I have never had any secrets from each other, so I have always confided my deepest and most twisted desires to her. Chloe is only doing what she knows I would want her to do when she makes me suffer for her. It only makes our already powerful bond even stronger, and we both understand that each of us needs the other in a way no other relationship could ever change.

So when I suddenly appeared at her door late one evening, Chloe was not surprised when I told her that my Master had given me permission to stay with her for a few days on condition that I obeyed her totally in every way. I also said that I had a proposal to put to her, but that I would wait until she told me that she was ready to discuss it before saying any more.

Chloe just smiled at me with a particularly cruel look in her eyes which sent shudders down my spine... and instantly made me very wet! Wordlessly, she opened the door and waved me in. As soon she’d closed the door she indicated that I was to strip naked and get on my knees. She stood watching me undress until I was completely nude, and then when I got on my knees she simply walked off towards the back of the house leaving me to crawl after her, as I knew she expected.

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This chapter (and the rest of the story) go on to describe how the situation mentioned in the first paragraph came to happen. Although there are occasional references to the deep sexual and emotional bond between the sisters in the rest of the story, the bulk of the story has nothing to do with any sexual activity between them at a young age. It is only mentioned in passing.

I would be interested in any comments or advice from those more experienced than me in this forum... which means almost all of you!

I'm specifically seeking feedback on the under age sex issue, but if you want to make comments on other aspects of the story please feel free to do so.

Just to provide a bit more context: the story is essentially about a D/s relationship between the older sister (the narrator) and her Dominant. As part of this relationship she asks her Master to accept her sister as his slave. She then sets out to persuade her sister to agree to this arrangement. During the course of the story both sister's have sex with males and other females as well as with each other. The sisters do not consider themselves lesbians... but they do have a *special* relationship with each other which was formed at a very young age. I hope this gives you some idea of what I'm trying to convey.

I'll be happy to provide further details about the story on request. But what I'm hoping to do is get some advice prior to submitting the story in order to (hopefully) avoid it being rejected.

Thanks a bunch!

 

[Darkniciad]

I don't see any red flags. The references to the past seem to convey the meaning, in context with the present story, without going into any detail that crosses the line.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I see no problem either, as long as you don't get into details of what was done when the sisters were under 18.

BTW, welcome to Literotica and to the AH.

 

[visviva2]

Thanks for the responses!

OK, maybe I not only think too much, I worry too much as well!

Unless anyone convinces me otherwise in the next day or two I'll go ahead and submit the story.

 

[visviva2]

rejected!

So after being advised that my concerns about underage sex in my first story were unlikely to be a problem I submitted Chapter 1... and today I found that it had been rejected due to concerns about underage sex!

I've now asked a volunteer editor to have a look at it and will hopefully be able to rewrite the small parts of the story that contain even minor references to underage sex before resubmitting it.

I'll keep you informed of future developments.

At least I know that I'm not neurotic and worrying too much after all.

 

[JamesSD]

Well, at some point you need to establish that the younger sister is 18+, fairly explicitly (briefly mentioning that she has started or postponed college is typically enough). In the except you posted there were no clear ages given.

And again, in the excerpt you posted there was nothing obviously problematic. I didn't necessarily interpret the Dom-sub relationship of the sisters as a sexual one. In most siblings there is a leader and a follower.

However, you may have gone further later in the chapter. Personally I think this story would work fine if you omit any reference to sexual contact between the sisters before coming of age. Having the younger sister be bossy but never in a sexually explicit manner before the events of the story gives potential for more dramatic tension. I'd ask you this: which is more dramatic, a woman dutifully eating her sister out for the 20th time, or for the first time? Which is more likely to evoke emotional conflict? I'd argue the first time.

 

[visviva2]

thanks for the feedback!

Yes, I can see your suggestion that she be "forced" to eat her sister out for the first time would increase the sexual tension in that scene... so maybe this is the way to go.

And it would follow that very brief mentions of their previous sexual relationship elsewhere in the story could then be taken out, just leaving the more dominant but non-sexual role for the sister.

So the rejection could be made to work by actually improving the story in this way...

Still, I'm a bit disappointed that the original storyline apparently cannot pass the Lit guidelines.

It seems that just mentioning an underage sexual relationship is out! Even in the context of a story where it is not part of the main story described, where no detailed description of the long past encounters are provided, and where such events are purely *background* to fill in the 18+ sisters' current relationship.

 

[Darkniciad]

That rule is rather strongly and sometimes knee-jerk enforced. With 70 some-odd stories to approve a day, it's probably almost a necessity.

Red flag. Rubber stamp rejection. Move on.

A lot of people re-submit with a moderator's note and see the story pass muster the second time. Wouldn't hurt to stress that the sister is now 18+ somehow as the story opens.

Unless there are other references later in the story that are a lot stronger than the one from the passage you posted, that's the only thing I can think of that might be holding it back -- just nailing down that she's now legal. I honestly don't see anything that could be construed as underage sex in the passage you posted.

Yes, I can see your suggestion that she be "forced" to eat her sister out for the first time would increase the sexual tension in that scene... so maybe this is the way to go.

And it would follow that very brief mentions of their previous sexual relationship elsewhere in the story could then be taken out, just leaving the more dominant but non-sexual role for the sister.

So the rejection could be made to work by actually improving the story in this way...

Still, I'm a bit disappointed that the original storyline apparently cannot pass the Lit guidelines.

It seems that just mentioning an underage sexual relationship is out! Even in the context of a story where it is not part of the main story described, where no detailed description of the long past encounters are provided, and where such events are purely *background* to fill in the 18+ sisters' current relationship.

 

[visviva2]

Thanks for your comments.

Exactly how do I "re-submit with a moderator's note" as you suggest?

This is the first time I've submitted anything, so re-submitting is also a new experience for me. I have read about doing so in the guidelines for submitting stories, and I can probably work out how to do it. But I don't recall anything about a "moderator's note". Any further information on this process would be most welcome.

 

[sr71plt]

Thanks for your comments.

Exactly how do I "re-submit with a moderator's note" as you suggest?

This is the first time I've submitted anything, so re-submitting is also a new experience for me. I have read about doing so in the guidelines for submitting stories, and I can probably work out how to do it. But I don't recall anything about a "moderator's note". Any further information on this process would be most welcome.

There's a notes box in the submission form. You can put anything there you want the editor to read in consideration of your story. Just submit the story again and put your comment in that box, saying in a previous submission the age issue was questioned (It wasn't a declarative rejection, was it? Didn't it read something like. "Is there underage sex activity?").

The only story I've ever had rejected questioned something and all I had to do was point out that the story didn't include what they were questioning--and it then went through without a single change. They just had assumed something might be there that wasn't.