a discussion thread about moderating this forum

[shereads]

Parlez vous some sort of written language?

Oops...This is the Low Road, isn't it?



If I'm going to commit to the High Road (out of respect for Selena) I may have to invest in a GPS.

<activates Ignore>

 

[Guest]

Its interesting how you've been using this SN all of maybe 2 months now, and you already presume you know all about Stella. Its also interesting that in your signature you refer to yourself as a "nice Christian lady", perhaps you need to re-read King Solomons proverbs?

I personally don't recall in any of these threads, that Stella herself asked to be a moderator, therefore she would not be the one determining the hate speech. But that would only be if we were to get a moderator, of which the consensus is that its a slim to none chance anyways.

I keep telling the wmrs person to talk to English Lady.

If there is a nice Christian lady in this forum, that would be it.

 

[Guest]

Oops...This is the Low Road, isn't it?



If I'm going to commit to the High Road (out of respect for Selena) I may have to invest in a GPS.

<activates Ignore>

I have a GPS.

We can share.

I'll set the voice to Ernst.

He's a serious jerk - it'll be perfect.

 

[JagFarlane]

I keep telling the wmrs person to talk to English Lady.

If there is a nice Christian lady in this forum, that would be it.

Pretty much.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Ah but then you do, no?

Because the turds are part of the tenor. For better or worse.

Mostly worse. But still.

you wanna split more hairs? Shall I sharpen the cleaver for you?

No, the turds are not part of the tenor-- ignore, remember?

No, I don't.

Still don't think we need a moderator, simply because the disadvantages outweigh the advantages. *shrug*

Weren't you saying you were ready to leave this forum? That's the kind of disadvantage that can't be outweighed...

Oops...This is the Low Road, isn't it?

yeah, but very funny, thank you

 

[cloudy]

Weren't you saying you were ready to leave this forum? That's the kind of disadvantage that can't be outweighed...

Maybe a disadvantage to me, but I don't know that anyone else would consider it such.

I may still leave, but probably not. As it is, my visits here grow more and more infrequent. I'm not sure how much of that is due to things going on here in the forum, and how much is just things going on in RL.

It's not the way it used to be here, and I miss so many people that don't post anymore that it hasn't been the escape that it was for a long, long time. I'll probably be here for awhile yet, though. Maybe.

 

[wmrs2]

It happens a lot in focused forums. You end up with alternative discussions and things just slowly grow away from the focus.

Its kind of a wonder why not? I do know a lot of the newer people to the forum have asked why there isn't a moderator, and I'm sure the owners have received PMs questioning why not. One can hope that the owners would pay attention enough to realize one is needed. At the same time, you would also hope that they take the time to choose the right person.

Me! Me! I am the right person. Let me be the monitor. I pledge to ban everybody that uses a cosmological argument in place of an ontological argument to explain what is happening on this forum.

Too much relativity around here. Let's get real with ontology, the true source of reasoning.

 

[wmrs2]

If someone doesn't take a firm hand, it won't matter. There won't be anything to moderate.

There's strength in numbers. Unfortunately, sociopaths need far fewer numbers to do exponentially greater damage than those they're attacking need to withstand it.

Ontology, that is the answer. Do you think a few narcissistic people leaving this forum is going to cause it to collapse. I have left sever forums and they really went on very well without me. Imagine, doing well without me!

 

[wmrs2]

Agreed, but the underlying issue was truth and trust and how we deal. That was my point.



I said, "And leaving lets trolls win," is that what you refer to?

I feel you...abstrusions, dryer lint, clique, facebook not so much.

Ontology! Ontology! What we need is rules that do not change, that are eternal and self-evident. Cosmological models do not work, which is being proven very well on this thread.

In cosmology everybody has their own model. That's the problem here.

 

[wmrs2]

No, and I don't care. I just want offensive posts smashed.

The use of an ontological model for reasoning will do this.

 

[wmrs2]

Its interesting how you've been using this SN all of maybe 2 months now, and you already presume you know all about Stella. Its also interesting that in your signature you refer to yourself as a "nice Christian lady", perhaps you need to re-read King Solomons proverbs?

I personally don't recall in any of these threads, that Stella herself asked to be a moderator, therefore she would not be the one determining the hate speech. But that would only be if we were to get a moderator, of which the consensus is that its a slim to none chance anyways.

I am so glad that you asked this question. Although I have been here only a few weeks, I have been a rational person for many years. I know a troll when one jumps on my back before I have a chance to introduce myself, as Stella points out in the quote in my signature.

When a pack of RABD tell me that they have a right to gang up on me because I have nothing to say, that tips me off that they want mine or anybody's ass that looks vulnerable.

I have read King Salomon's proverbs and it would even be better if the friends of Stella would obey these proverbs instead of following me around the forum having fun at my expense. Why have you not pointed this fact out to Stella that you reap what you ...... (No use telling her anything, since she is busy throwing turds and calling people fuckards.) She has called enough people on this thread alone enough dirty names to have won the troll of the year award.

You friends of Stella, have you no common sense whatever? She is obviously a tormented person, captured in a complete narcissistic personality. You friends are supporting her to the point that she is going to believe that she really is the most important person on this forum. You defend her but you are not doing her any favors. When she learns that more people on AH dislike her and that over 1.000,000 members don't give a shit if she leaves the Lit. forum, she may kill herself. That would tagically be your fault.

Stella appears to be near the cracking point. What do you really think these two threads are? These appear to me to be a cry for help and you so called friends of hers continue to use her as your hammer. Thank God, I do not have friends like you. If you are her friend, you better find some help for her before it is too late. All this "I love you Stella, I love you Stella" is bull shit. Keep hanging her out to dry and you may get more than you really want. Stella is what she is and that is not vastly loved, not by you holier than thou authors.

You better believe that a nice Christian lady does not fan the waves of mental instability before their friends by supporting their fantasies that they are really leaders and well loved. You allow your friend to go without the help she is crying out for on this forum by adding to the myth that it's everybody else's fault. It is no LBL, Ami, and others you attack that is pushing Stella over the edge, it is you that refuse to use any objectivity with Stella.

I suggest you nut head intellects read some material in a basic psychology book of mental disorders and really help your friend. You are not ready to read the Bible yet, let alone Solomon's books of wisdom.

 

[wmrs2]

Pretty much.

It would be very bad if you or any member of your crew were chosen to be a monitor; but how much more terrible it would be if you were God? Although you try to judge like God, your not. Keep pushing, you will get your friend over the edge. She is just about there now.

 

[Liar]

No, the turds are not part of the tenor-- ignore, remember?

Ah, good point. I never can be arsed to use that thingy. So I tend to forget other people do.

 

[Recidiva]

This is so disrespectful, Diva, it sounds like you haven't read one single thing I've already written.

Actually everything you posted there-- "lock step" and "destructive" for instance, are absolute bollocks, in the context of everything else I've said.

I do disrespect this aspect of your approach. And I don't think you've listened to me either.

I get you want to change the world. It's my world too. I get to have an opinion, and then I get to log off and go do something else.

They may be bollocks. I'm not sure they're absolute bollocks to me.

Probably overdramatic at the end of a day when I was getting tired and feeling I was being asked to repeat myself because people were not bothering to listen when I wrote something (carefully) the first time. If any measure of apology for my tendency for the absolute when I'm irritated and tired will serve, then I'll offer it.

To restate: I think you're angry and you have no mechanism in place for forgiveness. I think that's why things build up for you until you 'splode. That's fine for what it is, but you're missing that it's the ANGER that is being expressed. Not the solution. You're after annihilation and denial that someone should be permitted to exist. And I see ironically that same anger that starts wars and is so very, yes, destructive, and I can't stem it in any way and I'm concerned you're going to go to war or commit Lit suicide in protest. I give a damn and that's my problem.

Your "opponents" point this out and you don't listen to them, or me. And that's what it is. But I don't have to pretend I don't see that mechanism in my universe just because I adore you.

You're not compelled to forgive, but if I point out forgiveness and ignore and tolerance as solutions to your problem, you are insulted. It's what I have to do to in a day. It's what I have to offer, take it or leave it.

But it's still a part of me and if I didn't give a damn, I wouldn't offer it.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Stella's Out Of Meds, Too.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I do disrespect this aspect of your approach. And I don't think you've listened to me either.

I get you want to change the world. It's my world too. I get to have an opinion, and then I get to log off and go do something else.

They may be bollocks. I'm not sure they're absolute bollocks to me.

Probably overdramatic at the end of a day when I was getting tired and feeling I was being asked to repeat myself because people were not bothering to listen when I wrote something (carefully) the first time. If any measure of apology for my tendency for the absolute when I'm irritated and tired will serve, then I'll offer it.

To restate: I think you're angry and you have no mechanism in place for forgiveness. I think that's why things build up for you until you 'splode. That's fine for what it is, but you're missing that it's the ANGER that is being expressed. Not the solution. You're after annihilation and denial that someone should be permitted to exist. And I see ironically that same anger that starts wars and is so very, yes, destructive, and I can't stem it in any way and I'm concerned you're going to go to war or commit Lit suicide in protest. I give a damn and that's my problem.

Your "opponents" point this out and you don't listen to them, or me. And that's what it is. But I don't have to pretend I don't see that mechanism in my universe just because I adore you.

You're not compelled to forgive, but if I point out forgiveness and ignore and tolerance as solutions to your problem, you are insulted. It's what I have to do to in a day. It's what I have to offer, take it or leave it.

But it's still a part of me and if I didn't give a damn, I wouldn't offer it.

I want to protect myself and my people from further injury. And I know and you know that these trolls will continue to injure as they can. I can forgive jbj till the cows come home, but so what? What difference would that make?

The post you responded to was not me rehashing my grievances out of the blue. It was a response to someone else.

I want to change the method by which this forum is run. It's not the world, it's a relatively small goal, and It just might be do-able, but to do it, I have to continue the debate. This means I get to repeat myself over and over again. it's not that I am so one-sided, it's that I know people will not go back and search for the post in which their question has already been answered. So, i sound like a broken record.

gimme a break, please. And thank you.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Man! Dont include me in nuthin that involves cow cum.

 

[sr71plt]

Who's King Salomon?

 

[Recidiva]

I want to protect myself and my people from further injury. And I know and you know that these trolls will continue to injure as they can. I can forgive jbj till the cows come home, but so what? What difference would that make?

The post you responded to was not me rehashing my grievances out of the blue. It was a response to someone else.

I want to change the method by which this forum is run. It's not the world, it's a relatively small goal, and It just might be do-able, but to do it, I have to continue the debate. This means I get to repeat myself over and over again. it's not that I am so one-sided, it's that I know people will not go back and search for the post in which their question has already been answered. So, i sound like a broken record.

gimme a break, please.

I know you want to protect yourself. I think especially you want to protect others. I think most of your anger is in frustration not in taking the hits yourself, but in being unable to protect others from the same abuse.

I think you envision yourself as an AH mother, and that's endearing and I admire the fact that no matter how many times you feel compelled to pogo stick up and down on my spine because you felt I was attacking someone or you, you always have the grace to let it slide despite me being unsupportive of you or your viewpoint.

If I logged on this morning with some tragedy from last night (I only had a minor one and there's no real point in posting it or using it to prove a point) you'd be the first person to offer true, genuine sympathy.

I know you want to change the method. I don't think you can and I'm afraid of losing you as a result.

That'd be trauma, dammit.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Who's King Salomon?

"king salmon," a food product.

 

[Safe_Bet]

Ontology, that is the answer. Do you think a few narcissistic people leaving this forum is going to cause it to collapse. I have left sever forums and they really went on very well without me. Imagine, doing well without me!

I don't believe you. Let's try it again here and we'll see if we can do well without you. Ready, set, go...

 

[Guest]

"king salmon," a food product.

Basted, with lemon.

It's delicious.

 

[shereads]

"king salmon," a food product.

Salomon's Discount Furniture Kingdom. Get the next one right or lose your free pass.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

STELLA's definitely a mother.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

To Reci and Stella, I got both your backs. Just saying I concur with both of you. And I wish there more of the both of you than the idiot factor.