Has anyone read whore94?

[sexysarah89]

I have read all of whore 94 by Fronker. It turned me on alot as a submissive girl. It is long 12 chapters in 1 or 2 pages per chapter but well worth a read if you are a straight, lesbian or a guy.

I want more thou. I have comtacted the author but no resonse. i wondered if the where any laws rules on continuing the story on my own?

I thought if i said that this was a follow on story and giving credit to him would that be enough or do i need his writen permission?

Thanks Sarah

 

[polka702]

Hi SeySarah,
Haven't read it yet. Will go read now.

I believe the author would be complimented if someone takes his story further, thus I think you should go ahead and write. Afterall you did try to reach him.

What about the story turned you on the most?

Regards
Paul

 

[sexysarah89]

thanks polka702,

to get a little back ground i am a lesbian and a virgin also i have found out i am very submissive.

The rape turned me on i have fantasies about older men and women. The whole being seducticed into being a whore turned me on and puttung myself in her shoes.

I love being spanked i would love going further but a little scared would love to be forced into something i cant control just like in the story.

Hope you enjoy the story

 

[hisgypsy]

Yes, I read all those awhile ago and was incredibly turned on by them. I would think if you made a note of what you were doing at the beginning of the story, the original author wouldn't be offended.

Go for it, I'd love those stories to continue!

 

[drksideofthemoon]

I have read all of whore 94 by Fronker. It turned me on alot as a submissive girl. It is long 12 chapters in 1 or 2 pages per chapter but well worth a read if you are a straight, lesbian or a guy.

I want more thou. I have comtacted the author but no resonse. i wondered if the where any laws rules on continuing the story on my own?

I thought if i said that this was a follow on story and giving credit to him would that be enough or do i need his writen permission?

Thanks Sarah

The answer is, you need the orginal author's explicit permission to continue his work. Otherwise, it's a simple case of plagarism.

The writer may have finished the series where they wanted it to end. Just because you want more does not give you the right to continue the story.

As a writer, I would ge extremely upset and offended if anyone had the audacity to continue something I had written.

 

[hisgypsy]

The answer is, you need the orginal author's explicit permission to continue his work. Otherwise, it's a simple case of plagarism.

The writer may have finished the series where they wanted it to end. Just because you want more does not give you the right to continue the story.

As a writer, I would ge extremely upset and offended if anyone had the audacity to continue something I had written.

I don't think I would feel that strongly about it, and I wouldn't consider it plagiarism if she clearly notes that this was originally written by Fronker. But what do I know? I guess I don't consider the writings on here to be copywrited material, but maybe I'm wrong.

 

[cloudy]

I don't think I would feel that strongly about it, and I wouldn't consider it plagiarism if she clearly notes that this was originally written by Fronker. But what do I know? I guess I don't consider the writings on here to be copywrited material, but maybe I'm wrong.

You're wrong. Everything here is copyrighted.

 

[tickledkitty]

FWIW, I definitely would not want someone else writing sequels to anything of mine.

Why not make up your own characters and write your own story?

 

[Leto Degeneres]

I have read all of whore 94 by Fronker. It turned me on alot as a submissive girl. It is long 12 chapters in 1 or 2 pages per chapter but well worth a read if you are a straight, lesbian or a guy.

I want more thou. I have comtacted the author but no resonse. i wondered if the where any laws rules on continuing the story on my own?

I thought if i said that this was a follow on story and giving credit to him would that be enough or do i need his writen permission?

That was a great story. I had the feeling of her (can't recall the main character's name) being in a whirlpool, falling deeper and deeper and faster and faster until it was too late and there was no escape. Scary, thrilling, and erotic all at the same time. That was truly a unique story.

I can't imagine how that story would continue from the final scene, though. I agree with others, I wouldn't continue it unless you had Fronker's blessing. Still, I'm curious about how you're thinking in terms of the situation that she's in at the end of the story. How could she sink further, or were you thinking of further experiences for her, or perhaps a rescue or release? More acceptance seems unlikely because she already believes herself a whore and that she is where she's supposed to be. (darn, I'm going to have to go back and look to find her name)

 

[Stella_Omega]

I would have no compunction against continuing a story, and (SR71plt will tell us if I'm wrong, I'm sure) there is nothing illegal about doing so. It's not plagiarism to use your own original words to add to a text, and it can be classified as fan fiction if you want.

The moral issue however... If you can get ahold of the original author, I'm sure you'd be much happier about your tribute!

 

[3113]

I don't think I would feel that strongly about it.

You wouldn't, but how do you know that Fronker wouldn't feel the same as Darkside rather than you? The advice that should be followed on this topic should be worst case scenario, not best.

Continuing a story created by someone else is not something to do carelessly or lightly. Especially as, if you use the same names, characters and such, there are readers who might get really upset, never mind the author themselves. Readers may want only that author to write those characters. Or they may think you're the original author using a pseudonym--and then what happens if you don't do as good a job? Are you, after all, as good a writer as Fronker? What if you ruin the characters and story? And Fronker's reputation as a writer?

As for it being Fan Fiction--yes, it is, but Fan Fiction of works that are still under copyright is, technically, illegal. The only reason you don't see it prosecuted that often is because it doesn't make any money. So those owning the copyright don't bother. But I've seen them do it when it did matter. There was an infamous incident where an author did "fan fiction" using characters from an old and off-the-air tv show without telling her publisher. It was published, and as it was a book likely to make some money, both she and the publisher got clobbered with one hell of a lawsuit for copyright violation. For writing original fan fiction with someone else's characters.

Fronker can do the same to you, if you use those characters without permission.

 

[sexysarah89]

"If I make up my own stories, but base them on another work, my new work belongs to me."
False. U.S. Copyright law is quite explicit that the making of what are called "derivative works" -- works based or derived from another copyrighted work -- is the exclusive province of the owner of the original work. This is true even though the making of these new works is a highly creative process. If you write a story using settings or characters from somebody else's work, you need that author's permission.
Yes, that means almost all "fan fiction" is arguably a copyright violation. If you want to publish a story about Jim Kirk and Mr. Spock, you need Paramount's permission, plain and simple. Now, as it turns out, many, but not all holders of popular copyrights turn a blind eye to "fan fiction" or even subtly encourage it because it helps them. Make no mistake, however, that it is entirely up to them whether to do that.

Looks like i need Fronker's Permission which is ok if i get in contact with him.

I dont even mind giving him my ideas to carry on the story.

I will just have to wait.

Thanks for all the help guys.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

I second the idea of getting permission. When I wrote The Round-Up . . . Is Over! I got KK's permission to use his idea from The Round-Up and referenced it in the introduction before I 'borrowed' some of his characters and his situation. I wouldn't have touched it otherwise.

 

[hisgypsy]

You wouldn't, but how do you know that Fronker wouldn't feel the same as Darkside rather than you? The advice that should be followed on this topic should be worst case scenario, not best.

Continuing a story created by someone else is not something to do carelessly or lightly. Especially as, if you use the same names, characters and such, there are readers who might get really upset, never mind the author themselves. Readers may want only that author to write those characters. Or they may think you're the original author using a pseudonym--and then what happens if you don't do as good a job? Are you, after all, as good a writer as Fronker? What if you ruin the characters and story? And Fronker's reputation as a writer?

Okay, okay, I'll admit when I'm wrong and haven't thought things all the way through! In all honesty, this popped into my head last night and I think that people most likely have different writing styles, no matter how subtle. And what we all liked so much about this story might be lost anyway if continued by someone else.

Could a new Whore #_____ be created, and a story told from her perspective?

 

[cloudy]

Okay, okay, I'll admit when I'm wrong and haven't thought things all the way through! In all honesty, this popped into my head last night and I think that people most likely have different writing styles, no matter how subtle. And what we all liked so much about this story might be lost anyway if continued by someone else.

Could a new Whore #_____ be created, and a story told from her perspective?

If you're using the same characters or even the same "world," it's still a copyright violation.

 

[hisgypsy]

If you're using the same characters or even the same "world," it's still a copyright violation.

Okay...sorry!

 

[cloudy]

Okay...sorry!

No need to apologize; you were just asking for information.

One thing to consider, though...if you're creative enough to take that writer's story in a new direction, you're also creative enough to write something that is completely your own.

Worth a try.

 

[hisgypsy]

No need to apologize; you were just asking for information.

One thing to consider, though...if you're creative enough to take that writer's story in a new direction, you're also creative enough to write something that is completely your own.

Worth a try.

I used to write, not on here, but I haven't in a long, long time. For some reason the words just don't come anymore...so I enjoy reading everyone else's.

 

[tickledkitty]

I used to write, not on here, but I haven't in a long, long time. For some reason the words just don't come anymore...so I enjoy reading everyone else's.

I read a bit of this story last night, and I have to say, I'm not all that impressed. This is not a slam on the writer at all. My point is that I think you could write your own story and that this writer's level of expertise wouldn't be that difficult to attain.

Sometimes "the words just don't come anymore" for all of us. The answer for me is to write anyway. Sometimes the mere act of writing facilitates more writing and gets the words flowing more easily.

Cloudy is right. If you could continue this story, you could create one of your own.

 

[3113]

And what we all liked so much about this story might be lost anyway if continued by someone else.

Could a new Whore #_____ be created, and a story told from her perspective?

As said you should still get the author's permission, but I think this would be the best way to go if you wanted to do more of this type of story. It allows for a fresh perspective, new characterization, and a change of writing style or tone to suit the new writer.

 

[hisgypsy]

I read a bit of this story last night, and I have to say, I'm not all that impressed. This is not a slam on the writer at all. My point is that I think you could write your own story and that this writer's level of expertise wouldn't be that difficult to attain.

Sometimes "the words just don't come anymore" for all of us. The answer for me is to write anyway. Sometimes the mere act of writing facilitates more writing and gets the words flowing more easily.

Cloudy is right. If you could continue this story, you could create one of your own.

Except it's not me that wanted to continue the story, I just was commenting on whoever started this thread.

I know you're right about the writing anyway, but I tried that a few times and was very disappointed in the outcome. And since I don't write for a living, only for my own pleasure, I just gave it up. Maybe I'll start again sometime.

 

[Stella_Omega]

As said you should still get the author's permission, but I think this would be the best way to go if you wanted to do more of this type of story. It allows for a fresh perspective, new characterization, and a change of writing style or tone to suit the new writer.

I freely admit-- I have begun a work in this way, and once I'd gotten a good handle on it, changed the salient details. You'd never know where it came from, and I get comments on the freshness and originality of my characters pretty often...

Because they were original, in my hands. I cannot write the way the original author does, and my insights into her characters was expressed differently-- not to mention that, once I started them off on this alternate path, they had all-new reactions, to an all-new plot.

 

[Anna_Malia75]

It depends on the nature of the sequel you want to write. A Gone with the Wind "parody" - told from the point of view of the slaves - was ruled okay. A sequel - The Winds of Tara - was not, and it was yanked from the shelves. You use others' characters at your peril. And don't go printing any "whore94 Encyclopedia" either.

 

[IsabellaKing]

Why not just use Fronker's work as inspiration, then go and create your own characters and place them in a world of your own making.

Whenever I'm at a loss as to what to write - as I am now - I search the net and read what other people have written. It gives me ideas. I don't copy or steal characters, but reading similar stuff to what I'm trying to write helps to inspire me.

 

[Jedikool]

And don't go printing any "whore94 Encyclopedia" either.

haha nice