First thread lol :)

[ObscurePhantasm]

well yeah this is the first thread I have made and i just wanted some advice really

basically i love experimenting with girls sexually, and i have had a string of female partners probably more than male however i am with my current boyfriend and kind of wanted to incorporate this into our sexual relationship and experimentation with him because i must admit i have been craving female flesh :S, so basically i had a girl all lined up she was up for it too and knows my bf and we used to mess about occasionally when we were both single and that was all really.
The problem is that my bf when i asked him if he would be interested in this situation he said no, which i felt odd because i can't imagine many other men passing up the opportunity especially because the other girl is smoking hot in my honest opinion but the bf said that he wouldnt feel comfortable with this because of my history with girls he knows i wouldn't ever cheat on him with a guy but he seems to think that i am more likely to with a girl.

Do you think i should try to persuade him otherwise if so advice on how to go about it..?

 

[Betticus]

well yeah this is the first thread I have made and i just wanted some advice really

basically i love experimenting with girls sexually, and i have had a string of female partners probably more than male however i am with my current boyfriend and kind of wanted to incorporate this into our sexual relationship and experimentation with him because i must admit i have been craving female flesh :S, so basically i had a girl all lined up she was up for it too and knows my bf and we used to mess about occasionally when we were both single and that was all really.
The problem is that my bf when i asked him if he would be interested in this situation he said no, which i felt odd because i can't imagine many other men passing up the opportunity especially because the other girl is smoking hot in my honest opinion but the bf said that he wouldnt feel comfortable with this because of my history with girls he knows i wouldn't ever cheat on him with a guy but he seems to think that i am more likely to with a girl.

Do you think i should try to persuade him otherwise if so advice on how to go about it..?

Not enough information. You are going to have to fess up about your "history" with girls that is his main concern.

Also, I updated that subbie bedtime story. It's the most cruel, sadistic Fem on fem subbie torture/punishment that I could think of. *shivers*

You'll love it.

 

[ObscurePhantasm]

well basically i am more experienced with girls than men

and i was basically going down the lesbian route before i met him, he just sparked my interest and is lovely etc

he just feels sometimes that he cant do things that women can just with simple things like oral sex..he is never so confident he is just like well lesbians are better at going down on girls and he doesnt feel like he satisfies me enough really.

Perhaps he feels threatened by me bringing a woman into things maybe he feels like it is me saying yeah i need female attention to be fully happy with sex when that not how it is at all...

just want a bit more variety is all and the important thing is i want to experiment with him and a girl, because obviously if i wanted girls completely i would just go get some pussy myself no problems. I have told him all this and told him there is no pressure and if he doesnt want to its cool im not going to dwell on it, i just think he's enjoy it if he gave it a chance

 

[Betticus]

well basically i am more experienced with girls than men

and i was basically going down the lesbian route before i met him, he just sparked my interest and is lovely etc

he just feels sometimes that he cant do things that women can just with simple things like oral sex..he is never so confident he is just like well lesbians are better at going down on girls and he doesnt feel like he satisfies me enough really.

Perhaps he feels threatened by me bringing a woman into things maybe he feels like it is me saying yeah i need female attention to be fully happy with sex when that not how it is at all...

just want a bit more variety is all and the important thing is i want to experiment with him and a girl, because obviously if i wanted girls completely i would just go get some pussy myself no problems. I have told him all this and told him there is no pressure and if he doesnt want to its cool im not going to dwell on it, i just think he's enjoy it if he gave it a chance

I had a similar situation with my ex but not with the satisfaction bit. Anyway, she and I talked and when she brought it up I told her it was fine. She was surprised though so I don't think it's all that uncommon for the guy to feel a little insecure. I just told her that she's bi, I can't fulfill all of her needs and that I thought she should have a girlfriend as well but me and the gf had to get along and that if she ever tried to take my girl from me that I'd treat her just like a guy who was trying to weasel in. I didn't participate as it was my gf that I was into but I didn't get insecure about it and to be honest when she would kiss me and taste like her gf it was really hawt.

 

[Homburg]

I'm all kinds of happy with bi girls. And threesomes. Dig 'em. Probably a good thing, as I am in a poly relationship with two bi girls that are into each other as well. Handy that, eh?

It is not all threesomes though. I make a point to not being around when they play together. While they certainly would play for my entertainment, it's not about that. They enjoy each other simply because they receive fulfillment from each other that is different from what I offer. I'm totally cool with that.

Why? Because it is no threat to me. At the end of the day, a man can provide the same sort of actions (in the macro sense) as a woman can, and a woman can provide the same sort of actions a man can (with the addition of a few toys, they can literally do the same sort of stimuli). The difference is in feel, style, and headspace. Those ar eimportant differences though. So regardless of the fact that my girls can make each other come just fine, and be perfectly satisfied with the quality of the sex they have, they are both still going to want what I have to offer.

Yes, of course things might change, but that is how life is in general. I could get hit by a bus tomorrow. The bottom line is that I see no reason to be threatened by a woman touching one of my girls (with my consent) because it is a different experience and a different need fulfilled.

That said, if your boyfriend is around your age, he may well just be blazingly insecure in his own manhood, level of experience, perceived sexual ability, etc. Me? I would have jumped at the chance for a threesome with my girlfriend and her hot girlfriend at your age.

I wish you luck. You might try explaining how men and women both satisfy different needs in you. It might help.

 

[myinnerslut]

I'm all kinds of happy with bi girls. And threesomes. Dig 'em. Probably a good thing, as I am in a poly relationship with two bi girls that are into each other as well. Handy that, eh?

It is not all threesomes though. I make a point to not being around when they play together. While they certainly would play for my entertainment, it's not about that. They enjoy each other simply because they receive fulfillment from each other that is different from what I offer. I'm totally cool with that.

Why? Because it is no threat to me. At the end of the day, a man can provide the same sort of actions (in the macro sense) as a woman can, and a woman can provide the same sort of actions a man can (with the addition of a few toys, they can literally do the same sort of stimuli). The difference is in feel, style, and headspace. Those ar eimportant differences though. So regardless of the fact that my girls can make each other come just fine, and be perfectly satisfied with the quality of the sex they have, they are both still going to want what I have to offer.

i was going to post and say basically this so instead im just going to quote it. as MAster mentioned, viv and i will play together, but ther is no way we would choose to exlusivly be with each other without him becuase he brings something else to the table.

power dynamic aside (viv and i are both slaves and while one of us will take a more aggressive role with each other, neither of us can satisfy the other's need for Master's control) being with a boy is different then being with a girl, and the feeling of one cant replace the other, just add it it.

 

[Betticus]

I think the consensus on this topic, as far as you will get in this forum anyway is that you have different needs that not simply one gender can completely fulfill. Maybe it's part of the reason that girls like gay boys so much.

I know you like this guy that you are with and are giving a lot of yourself to make him feel more secure but the kind of maturity you are looking for may not be possible with this guy.

There are lots of guys out there and I'm sure that there are plenty who would fit you in ways that you've never imagined before. The odds against a relationship at your age lasting, growing and becoming that wonderful fairy tale are astronomical. I think that with this one you will learn, grow as a person and then decide to move on. You'll eventually find the one or ones that fulfill you and make you happy.

 

[FurryFury]

Great post! This is just what I was thinking but stated better than I would have.

I think the consensus on this topic, as far as you will get in this forum anyway is that you have different needs that not simply one gender can completely fulfill. Maybe it's part of the reason that girls like gay boys so much.

I know you like this guy that you are with and are giving a lot of yourself to make him feel more secure but the kind of maturity you are looking for may not be possible with this guy.

There are lots of guys out there and I'm sure that there are plenty who would fit you in ways that you've never imagined before. The odds against a relationship at your age lasting, growing and becoming that wonderful fairy tale are astronomical. I think that with this one you will learn, grow as a person and then decide to move on. You'll eventually find the one or ones that fulfill you and make you happy.

 

[YourCaptor]

Keep the subject open, talk about it. As your relationship grows and you understand each other better, whatever it is that he does not like about the situation may resolve itself.

Or this is just the way he is, in which case you either accept him as he is or reject him.

 

[SubKekiLee]

well basically i am more experienced with girls than men

and i was basically going down the lesbian route before i met him, he just sparked my interest and is lovely etc

he just feels sometimes that he cant do things that women can just with simple things like oral sex..he is never so confident he is just like well lesbians are better at going down on girls and he doesnt feel like he satisfies me enough really.

Perhaps he feels threatened by me bringing a woman into things maybe he feels like it is me saying yeah i need female attention to be fully happy with sex when that not how it is at all...

just want a bit more variety is all and the important thing is i want to experiment with him and a girl, because obviously if i wanted girls completely i would just go get some pussy myself no problems. I have told him all this and told him there is no pressure and if he doesnt want to its cool im not going to dwell on it, i just think he's enjoy it if he gave it a chance

IMO, My Sir and I have been together now almost 14 months , we worked on us first before I ever brought up adding another girl. even then it was my IDEA we have had several heart to hearts about this matter and he says he knows he cannot fufill my every need due to I am Bisexual. =0) He is very comfortable in knowing what she brings to the table is something he cannot. We have had the issue though where a girl thought she would come in between us even though she knew HE was FIRST But Rules are rules if he ever said he was not comfortable I would end all things.. you must see what yours is saying why he is uncomfortable and understand it or leave him. I married a man in my past who was very uncomfortable and I tried to force him to accept me for me and guess what? He and I divorced and yes it has been for the best but it was hard to be told cause you are who you are I am leaving... Be careful.. just my 2cents.. Good luck

I had a similar situation with my ex but not with the satisfaction bit. Anyway, she and I talked and when she brought it up I told her it was fine. She was surprised though so I don't think it's all that uncommon for the guy to feel a little insecure. I just told her that she's bi, I can't fulfill all of her needs and that I thought she should have a girlfriend as well but me and the gf had to get along and that if she ever tried to take my girl from me that I'd treat her just like a guy who was trying to weasel in. I didn't participate as it was my gf that I was into but I didn't get insecure about it and to be honest when she would kiss me and taste like her gf it was really hawt.

I know how this goes We have had this happen and he defintely showed his ownership and told her NO more. when he felt she was a threat.. ... but it was hot for him to be involved and watch.. we havent completed the whole threesome thing.. but thats on the list..

 

[satindesire]

Just wanted to throw this in for comfort's sake:

Not all men love the threesome or girl-on-girl fantasy. Mister is totally against it, and although I would love to be able to have a girlfriend/occasional girl partner, I have to shrug and move on.

Some guys just want your sexual energy to themselves, and don't want to share, no matter what gender you're sharing with and no matter if they're going to get a peice of the action or not.

 

[Betticus]

Just wanted to throw this in for comfort's sake:

Not all men love the threesome or girl-on-girl fantasy. Mister is totally against it, and although I would love to be able to have a girlfriend/occasional girl partner, I have to shrug and move on.

Some guys just want your sexual energy to themselves, and don't want to share, no matter what gender you're sharing with and no matter if they're going to get a peice of the action or not.

See, I'd tie your gf down and make you go down on her. Preferably under the lash..

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

Some guys just want your sexual energy to themselves, and don't want to share, no matter what gender you're sharing with and no matter if they're going to get a peice of the action or not.

My *baby daddy* is the EXACT same way. It's the main reason why after 15 years, off and on, we went our seperate ways. It wasn't something he ever wanted or needed. All he wanted is/was me. *shrugs* Some guys really DON'T want to share their women with anyone, for any reason. I respect him for letting me work this part out by myself, with or without him.

 

[YourCaptor]

Oh and by the way, lesbian fantasies aren't really that. Guys just picture themselves in between and still call it lesbian.

Since you want this other women, the threesome is not about him but about you.

If two women wanted him then he may go for it though. So maybe change your angle of approach. Convince him she wants him not you.

 

[ObscurePhantasm]

If two women wanted him then he may go for it though. So maybe change your angle of approach. Convince him she wants him not you.

this one is a new angle actually really interesting actually i might try this, though im not sure he's feel really guilty as he's really against cheating/feeling like one..i'd have to find a new girl though but that wouldnt be so hard.

but yeah i will work on him its not got to the point where im like "omg! i need pussy or i'm going to go crazy" yet, and if he was a complete no i could deal with it but thanks for the advice very reassuring

If i finally convince him i'll let you know LOL