Double Standards

[Missouribiguy]

Hey ladies and gents,

I want to ask the bisexual guys and girls on the GLBT board if they ever get sick with the fact that the media views that only women can be bisexual, but men cannot?

 

[kingkhan1]

I always found it obnoxious as someone who just is coming in terms of bisexuality I knew what and who I am attracted too. Women that are portrayed as bi do things w/ the same sex as recreation and bonding and I feel the same way towards my attraction to the same sex and its limited to that. And I can't understand how someone could tell anyone else what their attractions are.

 

[Missouribiguy]

Yeah, it does sound stupid to me for people to think like that.

 

[kingkhan1]

Sometimes ppl think bi guys are just gay guys transitioning to being gay and at first I thought that might be you but I couldn't force the attraction to women to go away and an increase attraction to guys even if I wanted to. And for women who kiss other women or have sex with other women they are not always even called bi.

 

[openminded_boca]

Sometimes ppl think bi guys are just gay guys transitioning to being gay and at first I thought that might be you but I couldn't force the attraction to women to go away and an increase attraction to guys even if I wanted to. And for women who kiss other women or have sex with other women they are not always even called bi.

lol

i've heard that before but from 100% GAY MEN!...

Whenever I would post an ad or comment about being bi curious, I would always get a email from a gay man telling me that there is no such thing as being bi. You are either gay or straight. If you like cock then you are gay.. simple as that!

Of course that is total bullshit but I find it funny that gay men think that..

and as far as "double standards" go, yes it is wrong. It is because in the male social world we are still very homophobic but it is ok for women to be into other women..

 

[Missouribiguy]

So, why do you think most gay men deny male bisexuality?

 

[kingkhan1]

So, why do you think most gay men deny male bisexuality?

I don't know about most but, I think a lot do. But, some on the other hand have a str8 guy fetish so someone who's bi would do it for them.

 

[dad001]

Acceptance

It is our society that has the stigma on acceptance. The media is just falling in line with the things that donot offend or are politically correct.

DAD

 

[Programmer Cat]

Hey ladies and gents,

I want to ask the bisexual guys and girls on the GLBT board if they ever get sick with the fact that the media views that only women can be bisexual, but men cannot?

I used to find it annoying, but I got over it. I can't control what other people do.

 

[littlegrizz02]

hey

The double standards suck. My wife is bi but I can't be . Because she thinks "real" guys would never suck a cock. How ever I would love to suck on one.

 

[limplizzard]

A woman eats a pussy she is bi, a man sucks a cock he is a queer. That makes me a bi-sexual queer. I enjoy eating pussy and sucking cocks, and every once in a while I even fuck a woman.

 

[Missouribiguy]

Hmmm, this is a weird problem.

 

[Digital_Divide]

There are a bunch of different ways to go about defending the double standard.

I find myself attracted to a person more than a sexual organ. Though I have found a few guys I would want to explore a relationship with I have not gotten the chance. Seeing as they are not open to the idea.

People are like art. They are not what they appear to be on the surface, and each person who comes into contact with them will each take away a completely different experience.

We become attracted to things that peak our interest and challenge us.

Such in love as in art eh?

 

[cruiserluver]

There is a double standard..........it isn't fair but its there.

 

[none2_none2]

I think many of you are making something big that just isn't.

First of all, gay, str8, bi are all labels. If you are into labels, then what is the "bi" label? I don't think there is one definition that everybody who "wants" to use the bi label would give.

1) There IS a significant number of "bi" guys who would swear they were not gay. However, when they get into their late 40's, 50's, or 60's they start to have problems with the str8 part of their bi-ness. It is easy to be bi when you're younger and your cock can easily get up with out a pill. How do I know this? As someone who had LOTS of partners over the years and typically guys who were 10 to 20 years older, I saw this pattern often. Sometimes what happened is everything was fine, then all of a sudden the erections around women required a fantasy that they had a cock in their mouth. Some of them were fine, and all of a sudden they met some handsome young man and for some reason they fell wildly in love - something they thought could never happen. (Note: I was never that young guy, but rather someone some of these guys felt at east to share their story.)

2) There are gay guys who got married to women for various reasons: peer pressure, religion, getting ahead in society, wanting children... Many actually do love their wives and would never leave them.

3) There are straight guys who just happened to have a same sex encounter along the way: maybe some time in prison, maybe they were drunk and a guy sucked them off, maybe they wend to an adult bookstore, and thought the mouth on the other side was a woman's... For whatever reason, they found so much pleasure in getting their cock taken care of that it is something they seek out from time to time. It doesn't matter squat to them the gender of the mouth or other orifice that is giving them pleasure. It could be the old wives tale that a man knows how to please another man (something I don't find true very often), or maybe the guy wants something quick and cheap and they like the fact that man/man sex many times doesn't involve money or a lot of quality time.

4) On this board there are lots of people who say they love everything about a woman, and as for men they only crave cock. Call it bi if you want, but I find this to be the weirdest claim. Imagine if a woman claiming to be a nearly lesbian made that statement. As long as the sex is consensual, I don't think anybody cares what you call it. So "bi" is as good a label as any. Just know that a man with a penis fetish is definitely not str8 even if you don't want to call it "gay".

5) There are those who are attracted to the person and not the private parts. They are capable of "lusting" or "loving" the individual. (I would hesitate to use the term "bi" as that term for many has the connotation of being someone who just wants to get off with whomever is available.) I have to be careful of this person attraction category as I tend to put it on a pedestal. In my mind, I wish I was that kind of person. It is something to strive for. However, in all honesty, I doubt I could attain this kind of sexuality. I don't really like labels, but I guess gay fits me the best if I have to use one. I don't care for cock at all, but body hair, masculinity, muscles are a big turn on. I don't find that many men attractive, and I do find some women attractive. The older I get the less the gender of someone matters. Maybe that is because I'm off the market, or maybe it is the diminished testosterone with years, or maybe it is maturity to know that every human has worth regardless of gender. Nevertheless, I don't know if I ever could have been the kind of person to stay with a woman for decades and not at least seek out some hairy ass guys on the side from time to time.

To Digital_Divide: If what you said is the kind of person you are, then you are something quite special. I've known so few people in that category. Cherish your sexuality as it is a special gift to be attracted to someone from the inside.


Finally, as far as "gay" guys having problems with the "bi" concept. Just realize that many gay guys first had crushes on non-gay guys since men don't all wear a tattoo giving preference information.. I didn't fall into that category, but I know many who did. It left them with a bad experience. Also know that there is a big push in gay circles to see gay/str8 as a genetic thing. In that situation, the "bi" factor kind of throws a wrench into the mix. Personally, I don't give a darned about the genetic factor. I don't think it would be the end of the world if a str8 guy fell in love with a gay guy or a gay guy fell in love with a woman. But for people who need a either/or, black/white, Mars/Venus, masculine/feminine duality definition of the universe, this is just too much to fathom.

Digital_Divide

 

[Missouribiguy]

Well, there shouldn't be labels, but we do have them.

I always found it weird when a guy always says that they crave cock, but aren't attracted to men. Yeah, I highly doubt they go with some really homely guy and suck his cock/be sucked themselves.

I happen to be attractive to both men and women. Both have things that appeal to me. I like a handsome masculine looking man and cute curvey woman.

 

[none2_none2]

Well, there shouldn't be labels, but we do have them.

I always found it weird when a guy always says that they crave cock, but aren't attracted to men. Yeah, I highly doubt they go with some really homely guy and suck his cock/be sucked themselves.

I happen to be attractive to both men and women. Both have things that appeal to me. I like a handsome masculine looking man and cute curvey woman.

What comes to mind when I hear the "crave cock/not man" syndrome are several things:

1) Do they stare at animal cock at the zoo since it's all only about cock.
2) Where are all the women who "crave breasts/not woman" syndrome.
3) Where are all the popular adult adds that state:
"ugly dude looking for non-gay man to worship cock"
4) Why don't we hear about straight guys who are only into one piece of the male anatomy besides cock:
"non-gay guy looking for a male foot to worship -- meet at the shoe store"
"non-gay guy looking for a male nose to blow -- please bring your own handkerchief.
"non-gay guy looking for a male ear to fondle -- will provide Q-TIPS.

 

[kingkhan1]

For me about the loving cock and not men is that cock is the main focus of the attraction. But, there are guys that would turn me off like someone who was overweight, older, or hairy. But, my attraction to guys is not really to their face or body in the sense it doesn't grab my attention like, a woman's body or face. And I am talking about visual attraction for me. My j/o buddy's face is not the most handsome in the world and is close to just being ugly. His body visually is just a man's body I don't find anything visually stunning about it. But, I do however find his cock to be visually stunning. And the sensation I feel from holding and caressing his smooth body his fucking great. So, for the loving cock not the man for me its about what I am attracted to visually, however I am attracted to feeling certain men's body and if I were to pick a label I would be bi but, labels are irrelevant.

 

[Missouribiguy]

What comes to mind when I hear the "crave cock/not man" syndrome are several things:

1) Do they stare at animal cock at the zoo since it's all only about cock.
2) Where are all the women who "crave breasts/not woman" syndrome.
3) Where are all the popular adult adds that state:
"ugly dude looking for non-gay man to worship cock"
4) Why don't we hear about straight guys who are only into one piece of the male anatomy besides cock:
"non-gay guy looking for a male foot to worship -- meet at the shoe store"
"non-gay guy looking for a male nose to blow -- please bring your own handkerchief.
"non-gay guy looking for a male ear to fondle -- will provide Q-TIPS.

Hehe, good one.

 

[Digital_Divide]

Thanks none.

I can attribute the person I am today mostly to my parents.

They never told me that anything was wrong to feel or do. (This does not apply to killing and craziness like that.) They supported me in everything and never made me feel bad for anything.

Growing up I dealt with a lot of shit from others. If I found someone attractive I had no problem with it.

It is just very hard living a life trying to appear "normal" in the eyes of society. In a way it is a hinderance as I have not been able to act on my desire to have a relationship, sexual or long term, with a guy. I think that this is the issue most people have. They start out happy with themselves but the constant need to be a "normal" person wins out in the end.

 

[Wings27]

It is much easier to be a "bi" girl (god I hate labels!) in society, and it's useless to say you don't care what society thinks because we all have to live in it! However, if you choose to make the opinions of those you love and care about more important that the masses, then you should be "happy". Of course that's saying that the people we love actually accept us for who we are. I hide many, many things from my family because I know it would hurt them to no end if they found out. To them I'm the happily married woman who just sleeps with her husband and goes to work and takes care of the house and kids. To the rest of the world I'm the slightly crazy girl who loves sex, and is very picky about who she gives it to, however I find that I like PEOPLE, not the sexual organs. It's the stereotype of Angelina Jolie. I think she made some very smart comments about loving the person and not the sex of that person. But "society" still found her incredibly odd and only now accepts her because she's in a relationship with a male. Who knows what goes on in their house? It's hard enough to be happy with yourself, trying to make others happy is a struggle.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

I prefer to be called omnisexual these days. It covers a lot of ground. Mind you, I'm more attracted to women and transwomen than to most guys. But there are some men who do turn me on. And there's no pointing in being ashamed of that. I like what I like. Those who can't accept that can rim me, no matter what sex they are.

 

[rainman95355]

A woman eats a pussy she is bi, a man sucks a cock he is a queer. That makes me a bi-sexual queer. I enjoy eating pussy and sucking cocks, and every once in a while I even fuck a woman.

shall we start some sort of a club or support group (grope)? LOL