Female Version of 'Macho'?

[xssve]

And we should also start thinking about hetero relationship dynamics that could be called queer-- there are more than a few.

Believe me, I am - all hell seems to have broken loose in the wake of the California Supreme Court decision.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Believe me, I am.

What is the Dom called when the bottom is a boi, in a straight relationship?

ETA-- your town is up in arms, huh.

 

[xssve]

Locally, however, much of it stems initially from one of the local high schools forming a Gay-Straight alliance club, a move that required a town meeting, and a an inordinate amount of wailing and gnashing of teeth.

 

[xssve]

What is the Dom called when the bottom is a boi, in a straight relationship?

ETA-- your town is up in arms, huh.

My understanding, again, is that it's more akin to heterosexual pederasty, which in calssical times was a sort of mentoring arrangement that may or may not include sex, so I'm not sure what the male/top would be called - I hope it isn't pederast, things are confusing enough, half the town already thinks I'm gay.

I just thought of it as adventurous, silly me.

Speaking of which, I resorted to using the the term adventuress, rather than slut, bimbo, etc., or any other loaded terms - it has a nice archaic ring to it, but it hasn't really caught on.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Probably Daddy/boi. If I, as a butch dyke, were topping a younger butch, that's the way we'd play it, so you might as well borrow another term or two from the other side of the fence.

Adventuress, that's very good-- avoids almost all of the connotations but you know it did have them all, about a hundred years ago...

 

[xssve]

Yes, it does have a Dadish connotations.

Adventuress/adventurer also has the charm of being more verbish than nounish: one can have an adventure or adventures, and not necessarily be stuck with an confusing onus.

 

[Corylea]

*laugh* Well, just to put in my geeky two cents, the characters in role-playing games* are usually called "adventurers." So, in my mind and in the minds of my game-playing friends, an adventurer is someone who kills monsters and collects treasure. Perhaps not what you'd had in mind.



*Tabletop games like Dungeons & Dragons or computer games like Diablo, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, and the like.

 

[Stella_Omega]

*laugh* Well, just to put in my geeky two cents, the characters in role-playing games* are usually called "adventurers." So, in my mind and in the minds of my game-playing friends, an adventurer is someone who kills monsters and collects treasure. Perhaps not what you'd had in mind.



*Tabletop games like Dungeons & Dragons or computer games like Diablo, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, and the like.

That's so queer!

 

[xssve]

Can someone tell me, is "boi" pronounced "boy" or "bwah"? I've only read about the term, I've never heard it said aloud. Or, if I have, I didn't know they meant "boi", not "boy". Or maybe I just thought lesbians say "boy" like gays say "girl" or "she".

Getting back on this, if I have to say it, I pronounce it "bwah", mainly to avoid confusion, although I mostly use the term "Bwah" when talking to my son - as in: "I say, I say, what the hell are you doin', bwah?"

In this case, I use my best Foghorn Leghorn accent - I hope I don't have to defend it, I lived in the South for some years, and I occasionally slip into the vernacular, although mine is softer, Georgian accent: "Boah".

 

[xssve]

*laugh* Well, just to put in my geeky two cents, the characters in role-playing games* are usually called "adventurers." So, in my mind and in the minds of my game-playing friends, an adventurer is someone who kills monsters and collects treasure. Perhaps not what you'd had in mind.



*Tabletop games like Dungeons & Dragons or computer games like Diablo, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, and the like.

It used to be a polite term for "getting around", circa 20 or 30ish, but has since lost it's sexual connotations and fallen into disuse - which, incidentally, is about the time "gay" entered the popular vernacular, as in "carefee and uninhibited" - which I'd have to admit describes me pretty well.

Merry widow is one you don't hear too often either.

 

[xssve]

Better ask the experts though.

 

[Safe_Bet]

Probably Daddy/boi. If I, as a butch dyke, were topping a younger butch, that's the way we'd play it, so you might as well borrow another term or two from the other side of the fence.

Adventuress, that's very good-- avoids almost all of the connotations but you know it did have them all, about a hundred years ago...

Then you can take it down (???) a level to Papa (my boi Amy) / Judy (Femme little ol' me)

 

[Stella_Omega]

Then you can take it down (???) a level to Papa (my boi Amy) / Judy (Femme little ol' me)

And "Papi" when you start losing your breath

 

[xssve]

"Adventuress" also solves certain tricky sexual/political and gender identity problems that might arise when one isn't sure whom one is dealing, and wishes to avoid the accidental pejorative - I know women who are into toys/machines, and/or masturbation almost exclusively, and I'd hesitate to call them wankers, I wouldn't want to insult them, particularly when I'm trying to make my case.

 

[sweetness6280]

But this suggests that macha already has a definition and it has nothing to do with exaggerated feminization. It has more to do with political rights and feminism.

Vamp would be okay but Vamp suggests a specific style. You can't have a perky vamp, for instance.

Here's a sample of entries under "Woman" in The Internet Sex dictionary There's like thousands of them. This is just a sample.

jizz spider, lady lover, lay with her feet uppermost, lesbian feminist, let in, korephile, lady hotbot, lone woman, honey dip, horse breaker, hot biscuit, hot item, hot lips, hot piece of dark meat, hotter than a red firewagon, hysteromania, infertile period, interested in only one thing, intimate apparel, little charmer, love box, lubra, Mademoizook, madam X, marble heart, minger, Miss Hotbot, mohair knickers, mother-to-be, nailhead, nullipara, old bat, X-legged, yelper, zulubruiser, wet dream-girl, whanking date, whipped, white sugar, woman of a certain class, woman in her courses, wolfish, wolf whistle, woman of size, sweet chocolate, sugar-chaser, sugar brown, tackhead, teeth in her crotch, thelebasiate, thelelingus, thelemassation, tail-femme, tail-sweet, split arse, snow bunny, southern belle, slopie gal, smasher, snuggy, split stuff, steppe sister, streamlined, strawberry, tennagant, Thisbe, sweet young thing, three-way woman, three-ring circus, tickle the minikin, tigress, titty-boo, tittivate, tocopepantic, trans-hag, trannying, trans catcher, tranz-hag, tribas, tit king, tit-up, torso job, triple header, twatty, trout-fishing, upper-ten, upside-down kiss, trouser arouser, village overtones, wallet girl, warm body, shaggable, Sheila, rubies, segoonya, sex machine, sister act, sleepy-time girl, shuttle-butt, slope gal, put (one) on the corner, quail-pipe, quiff hunter, ragmop, real stunner, real babe, rebel, saving it, rare piece of dark meat, raven beauty, scorcher, paraphin lamp, peanut smuggling, passionate pilgrim, peroxide blonde, pigmouth, pigger, phat chick, phillipean, phizgig, piece of dark meat, piece of Eve's meat, pleasure place, priss, proper bit of frock, put (one) on the block, powder one's nose, powder ones puff, pre-orgasmic woman, loose-legged woman, loose kirtle, cow, dairy farm, dairy arrangements, chalubbies, dinners, easts and wests, east and west, eat seafood, catamenial discharge, chest puppies, catamenia, cat heads, butter baby, cock-artist, be at number one, balcony, bazoongies, balloons, bad week, bad news, baby bumpers, baby pillows, a piece of snatch, a piece of skirt, a piece of calico, a piece of goods, a piece of fluff, assets, bubbies' uncle, bulbs, bunn

I think I'll go with phizgig

Since vamp is out, what about coquette, minx, siren, or even the old school chorine.

Not sure exactly the direction you're looking for, but those are the ones that came to mind.

 

[xssve]

All good - but chorine? What does that even mean? Lol, tocopepantic?

Damn, I forget sometimes I'm on the internet.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

All good - but chorine? What does that even mean? Lol, tocopepantic?

Damn, I forget sometimes I'm on the internet.

If I googled everything on that list I didn't know, I'd be here until next October.

 

[Xelebes]

Not any man I know, or any man I would ever have anything to do with.

I have no idea where you live, but I've lived all over the states and in Canada, and everywhere I've been, bimbo means a stupid slut, to put it succinctly.

Eh, in this corner of the world, bimbo has only meant a vapid and slow-witted woman. It has little to do with who she sleeps with or how she procures sex apart from the fact that she usually pairs up with a person who is just as vapid and slow-witted. That is, "a bimbo and muscle-neck" would be a more common usage than a "licentious bimbo."

 

[Xelebes]

All good - but chorine? What does that even mean? Lol, tocopepantic?

Damn, I forget sometimes I'm on the internet.

A "chorine" is a seductive singer, from the Greek word "choreia", which means "to sing."

 

[Stella_Omega]

Vamp would be okay but Vamp suggests a specific style. You can't have a perky vamp, for instance.

You can have a perky femme. Or a truculent femme. or a down-on-her-luck femme. or a top-of-her-game femme, an aggressive or vapid femme.

I think I'd go with "Femme."

This is fizzgig;

 

[Selena_Kitt]

You can have a perky femme. Or a truculent femme. or a down-on-her-luck femme. or a top-of-her-game femme, an aggressive or vapid femme.

I think I'd go with "Femme."

This is fizzgig;

Fizzgig!!!!!!!
Love that movie.

 

[Huckleman2000]

[,,,]
This is fizzgig;

hmmm... unless that thing cleans up real well after a shave, I don't think fizzgig's your word, Doc.

Has anyone mentioned "dame"? It's evocative of old noir films, so it may be too anachronistic.

 

[Stella_Omega]

hmmm... unless that thing cleans up real well after a shave, I don't think fizzgig's your word, Doc.

Has anyone mentioned "dame"? It's evocative of old noir films, so it may be too anachronistic.

Which reminds me-- I keep thinking I should try writing porn as a Damon Runyon pastiche.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Which reminds me-- I keep thinking I should try writing porn as a Damon Runyon pastiche.

What a terrific concept! I wanna read that. Uh, is there any possibility you might make it het, for a change? Or at least bi?

 

[Guest]

Since vamp is out, what about coquette, minx, siren, or even the old school chorine.

Not sure exactly the direction you're looking for, but those are the ones that came to mind.

I like Trollop.