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...Speaking of the S&L boondoggle, we're stillpicking up the tab on that one...
Clearly, nothing has changed.
People have forgotten (or choose not to remember) that S&Ls were an invention of government and politicians (you could look it up!). They were absolutely and irrevocably doomed the minute Regulation Q (Reg Q permitted the setting of interest rates by the government) was revoked.
When inflation was running at 15-odd percent and the prime rate hit 20% in 1979-80, folks were not greatly interested in receiving the Regulation Q-mandated 3% on their passbook savings accounts.
They pulled their deposits out of the S&Ls as if there was a run on the bank.
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Subprime Devastation Retraces Path of S&L Crisis in U.S. States
By Jonathan Keehner and Bob Ivry
The $700 billion bailout of Wall Street's subprime-tainted securities harkens back to the real- estate bets that sparked the savings and loan crisis in the 1980s. The geography's the same, too.
Then, as now, the government created a taxpayer-funded enterprise to absorb the fallout from bad real-estate investments. A Bloomberg map of the hardest-hit areas shows that, with the exception of Nevada, regions with the highest foreclosure rates also had the most savings-and-loan failures, according to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.
The overlap shows that the aggressive lending and speculation that ignited the savings-and-loan meltdown persisted, at least in those areas, according to Paul E. Johnson, who was mayor of Phoenix from 1990 to 1994.
``From where I sit, the areas that were hit by the S&L crisis and those struggling with subprime look pretty much the same,'' said Johnson, now president of Southwest Next Capital Management, a real estate investment fund based in Arizona...
Texas, where failed thrifts in the Dallas and Houston areas had assets of more than $45 billion in the 1980s and 1990s, has largely sidestepped the subprime crisis...
Granted, home prices in Texas didn't rise as high as those in California, Arizona and Florida, according to the S&P/Case- Shiller Home Price Index.
Los Angeles, Phoenix and Miami home prices doubled from 2002 to 2006 and have slipped by about one-third since, according to the S&P Case-Shiller Home Price Index. Home prices in Dallas rose 12 percent from 2003 to 2007 and have dropped 3.2 percent since then, according to the Case-Shiller index.
``Deterioration of property values in other states is the result of the run-up,'' Foster said. ``We didn't have the run- up.''
California, by contrast, was hit hard by both financial meltdowns. Failed thrifts based in the regions of Santa Barbara, Ventura, Los Angeles, Orange County, San Diego and Stockton had combined assets of more than $95 billion in the 1980s and 1990s.
Now, the state is home to all five of the top metropolitan areas for foreclosures, according to RealtyTrac Inc., a real estate database in Irvine, California.
California, Arizona and Florida rank second, third and fourth by percentage of households in the foreclosure process, behind Nevada, RealtyTrac said.
Borrowers with subprime mortgages fell behind on their monthly payments at a rate more than four times that of prime borrowers, according to the Washington-based Mortgage Bankers Association. Subprime home loans went to people with bad or incomplete credit histories...