"Daddy," I Whispered: A Critique of the self-proclaimed "Lit's #1 Story"

That story must've been the first or second I read when I first came here. And I so did not think it was all that. I thought most of it was crap from the racist shit on forward. Nice to see someone putting it on the glass.
 
vicious killer slanders LITEROTICAS greatest...

11:59 a.m., Thursday, September 25, 2008
ScouriesWorld
Miami Beach, Florida


This morning, in one of the sneakiest attacks in LITEROTICA history, more reminiscent of Pearl Harbor or serena :p, LITEROTICA’S greatest living author was attacked by a jealous woman, a rejected stalker and known lunatic, the vindictive and foul mouthed miss bran muffin :(.

I would like to advise all readers that Mr. James R Scouries will be responding to this scurrilous attack during a press conference to be held this afternoon at 6:00 p.m. at the Ritz Carelton, Miami Beach.

Gabrielle L.
freedom fighter… and
literotican…actress…threadmaster’s assistant…lover…and
ALT killer…and
Handler of the “Mentally Challenged”… and
v.p. ScouriesWorld seminars…and
president, Scouries Fan Club…and
assistant accountant reporting to mr. tex…and
V.P. lesbian deprogramming services…and
deputy art director reporting to miss (I’m in charge of bananas)…and
official committee member, Literotica royalty distribution committee…and
friend of GBers…and
director of scouriesworld translation services…and
vice-president marketing –Orgasming Centres Inc….and finally
secretary, 1000+ VOTE CLUB and 100+COMMENT CLUB
collins avenue
miami beach, florida
 
Yeah, I realize that Scouries has written some stuff, mean stuff, most of which was before my time here. Yet, he is a fellow writer and deserves the respect of those who want the same thing. We are all here because we not only love to write but also because we must write.

Where else are we amateur writers to go to post our stories?
Thing is, we're dealing with someone here who claims to be a professional writer. As in, getting paid for his storie$.

That said claim is laughable is irrelevant. Say you're a pro? Get prepared to be treated as a pro. That includes having your qualities as a writer questioned and scrutinized in the worst of ways.
 
Thing is, we're dealing with someone here who claims to be a professional writer. As in, getting paid for his storie$.

That said claim is laughable is irrelevant. Say you're a pro? Get prepared to be treated as a pro. That includes having your qualities as a writer questioned and scrutinized in the worst of ways.

Finally, a sane voice. Yes, I agree with all that you have written. Only, the difference is that you can critique without being mean about it and without hurting someone's feelings. We are all humans here. We all want the same things. We all need to be liked. Yes, he has some issues and he as lashed out at some people, but others have been just as mean and nasty.

We all need a time out. It all needs to stop. We are all missing the point of having the luxury of this site.

I made a post on his thread. I tried my best to talk some sense to him. Hopefully, he will mend his evil ways. Hopefully, those who have treated him just as bad as he has treated others will give him a second chance.
 
Am I the only one who thinks this review is wrong and not funny?

For someone who is one course shy of their bachelor's degree in English, especially majoring in Creative Writing, have you never been in a writer's workshop? We don't act like this in a writer's workshop. We encourage writers and writing. We don't bash other writers. We don't belittle and mocked what they have written.

Well, I have a degree in English, too. Northeastern University required their English majors to take only 5 writing courses to satisfy their English degree. I took 32 writing course, all the writing courses they had, except for business and technical writing.

Yeah, I realize that Scouries has written some stuff, mean stuff, most of which was before my time here. Yet, he is a fellow writer and deserves the respect of those who want the same thing. We are all here because we not only love to write but also because we must write.

Where else are we amateur writers to go to post our stories?

I've been deemed a basher by those emotionally disturbed who cannot see themselves as the bashers. I've bashed them in defense of their bashing me. Yet, all of this is so wrong.

I'm just here to write stories. Just as I love to write, as you do, as we all do, I know that I am not the next greatest thing to writing. I'm having fun. I'm improving my craft. I'm writing stories. Wow!

For you to hold up a mirror, for anyone to give a 1 bomb to another writer, as PrincessErin did to my latest story this morning, is so terrible that they should be banned from this site. Who the Hell are you to do that? How dare you?

This is the not spirit that we want to encourage. We should embrace one another, even Scouries, as he is here for the same reason that we are. Now, after embracing Scouries, after accepting him as one of our own, if he does not come around and change his ways and conform to what the spirit of this web site is and should be, then we should all shun him, his work, and his thread. If he fails to act appropriate to what we all want from this site, then we should have nothing else to do with him.

Only, we shouldn't bash him. We shouldn't give his stories 1 bombs. Certainly, we shouldn't ridicule the hard work he has put out to write his stories.

Just as I would not bash your stories or anyone's stories here, I don't want my stories bashed, by of all people, my fellow writers.

We all should have a problem. Yeah, I know, I've written this many times before. I feed the homeless once a week. Big deal.

Yet, I feel for these people. They have absolutely nothing. They don't even have food. Can you imagine what it is like to be on the streets and to be so hungry that you no longer want to eat and to no longer possess the energy to pick up a fork to feed yourself should someone take pity on your and give you some food?

I get my stories from people. I'm a very sensitive guy. I thought this site was the greatest thing that I happened upon. Only, as soon as I joined, as soon as I started posting stories, I was attacked. I wasn't accepted as one of the "in" crowd. Well, to be honest, after seeing this demonstration and reading everyone patting killermuffin on the back, I'm glad that I'm not accepted as one of you.

I don't know Scouries from a hole in the wall. I only posted to his thread because it was fun. Then, every time I post, six or seven or more of you attack me.

You all need to rethink what you want out of this site. Surely, I don't want to fight with people day in and day out. I want a site where we all, as writers, want to write and grow. I want a site where it is a pleasure to open knowing that I'll receive some words of encouragement. Yeah, sure, they'll always be bashing and 1 bombs, but I expect that from some emotionally disturbed readers and not from fellow writers.

I know that I'll receive as much shit for this post as all of my other posts and the same suspects will make themselves known, as soon as I post this.

This thread defeats everything that I had hoped to get from this site and I am saddened by this mean demonstration from such a talented writer. I expected better from you and from someone who is about to experience something very special in her life, receiving a bachelor's degree in English. Please put the honor to good use by not abusing it.

Now, for all those who will certainly bash my post, I don't intend to respond to you. I've wasted too much of my time already on your foolishness. You are here for the wrong reasons and I won't be party to your insanity any more.

Freddie
Bostonfictionwriter
Freddie, as much as Scouries has proclaimed how wonderful this story is...he deserves this.

Bravo KM. You've made my day so much better. Best thing is, it's a fair critique.
 
Finally, a sane voice. Yes, I agree with all that you have written. Only, the difference is that you can critique without being mean about it and without hurting someone's feelings. We are all humans here. We all want the same things. We all need to be liked. Yes, he has some issues and he as lashed out at some people, but others have been just as mean and nasty.

We all need a time out. It all needs to stop. We are all missing the point of having the luxury of this site.

I made a post on his thread. I tried my best to talk some sense to him. Hopefully, he will mend his evil ways. Hopefully, those who have treated him just as bad as he has treated others will give him a second chance.

Thing is, BFW, the professional reviews out there can be pretty harsh. They are mean about it and they often hurt peoples feelings.

And that is AFTER the "filters" of submitting and getting accepted, getting edited and proofed, etc.

If one wishes to try and take on the mantle of being a professional, one has to be prepared for harsh criticism.
 
Thing is, BFW, the professional reviews out there can be pretty harsh. They are mean about it and they often hurt peoples feelings.

And that is AFTER the "filters" of submitting and getting accepted, getting edited and proofed, etc.

If one wishes to try and take on the mantle of being a professional, one has to be prepared for harsh criticism.

Yeah, but...many of these writers are not professional writers. I'm not. I write for the fun of it and I write because I must write. I write because I want to write better. I write because I love writing every day.

Then, you write your story the best you can and it is torn to shreds before your eyes. I'd never do that to someone. If you don't like the writer, if you have nothing good to write, pass it by and read a story that you like.

So, Scouries has proclaimed that this is the number one story? Who care? Let him. You have the right to believe otherwise, just as he has the right to write that his story is the best.

I never understood why so many writers here read his thread? If they don't like the man, ignore him.

There are too many writers here who aren't professional writers and who don't have thick skins. I've been accused of having a thin skin, but I can assure you that I still wouldn't be here pumping out stories if I took many of these mean, nasty, and moronic comments to heart.

Still, there are those who have never experienced a writer's workshop or who have never been critique by a professor with a Ph D. in literature. I have. Maybe, you have, too.

Only, it is wrong to abuse this site, to shit all over this site, when it is probably the best site for writers to practice their craft.
 
Any time you submit something, anything, to the public you are offering your balls up on a platter to either be fondled, smashed with a mallet, or completely ignored. And you never know which you'll get. On top of that "risk", to come out and declare yourself the top of the heap, you're specifically inviting even more criticism. If you're going to put your work out for public consumption, whether it's free online or in print, you need a thick skin. If you don't have one then grow one. (Just don't have too thick a skull or constructive criticism won't make it through, either.)

Personally, I get a kick out of bad criticism. (Especially Lit trolls!) My skin is thick and I'm comfortable enough in my abilities to measure the validity of any criticism and accept or reject it. A record company exec told me that we can't write songs. At the exact moment he said that my band was on the Grammy ballot for... <drumroll>... our songwriting. I took it for it was, but my bass player was crushed and he quit music completely.

Submission = fair game.

How we handle it is up to each of us.
 
Freddie, Will critiques stories all the time. He's a professional editor. He's actually my editor so I know how mean the man can actually get. (just kidding Will, don't hurt me.)
 
Any time you submit something, anything, to the public you are offering your balls up on a platter to either be fondled, smashed with a mallet, or completely ignored. And you never know which you'll get. On top of that "risk", to come out and declare yourself the top of the heap, you're specifically inviting even more criticism. If you're going to put your work out for public consumption, whether it's free online or in print, you need a thick skin. If you don't have one then grow one. (Just don't have too thick a skull or constructive criticism won't make it through, either.)

Personally, I get a kick out of bad criticism. (Especially Lit trolls!) My skin is thick and I'm comfortable enough in my abilities to measure the validity of any criticism and accept or reject it. A record company exec told me that we can't write songs. At the exact moment he said that my band was on the Grammy ballot for... <drumroll>... our songwriting. I took it for it was, but my bass player was crushed and he quit music completely.

Submission = fair game.

How we handle it is up to each of us.

Again, I agree with all that you have written. The difference is between the reader and the writer.

We, as writers on Literotica, a web site who does not pay us to write, should, at the very least, be treated courteously from our fellow writers.

I expect to be bashed by God knows who reads these stories. I expect to receive bizarre comments. I expect that someone who loves golden showers takes exception to my story that does not have anything about that in it.

Yet, the people who write here and who have developed a relationship with one another, good or bad or indifferent, should come together if only because we all share the same passion.

Stories are arbitrary. What you like I may think is terrible and not waste my time reading. Yet, as a writer who respect what someone else has written, I'll never write, you're story sucked and you do, too.

Sure, there will be those mentally disturbed people who will post a list of mean and nasty that I wrote, all taken out of context and all posted in defense of their bashing me.

Still, I stand by my belief, that as fellow writers, we should all treat one another with the respect that we hope to receive in return. Yes, Scouries is guilty of writing mean things, but he's one man against an army of those who have written mean things about him.

It's time we showed an appreciation for this site. It's time we put all the pettiness aside and tried helping one another to improve. It's time we all worked to make this a better place.

Gees, suddenly, I feel so nice.
 
Freddie, Will critiques stories all the time. He's a professional editor. He's actually my editor so I know how mean the man can actually get. (just kidding Will, don't hurt me.)

You can critique without cutting off the writer's head.

I wish I received more critiques for my work, instead of receiving 1 bombs and nasty comments.

Now, what they do is 1 bomb me and then write a glowing comment, which I delete, because their second vote doesn't count.

All I'm saying is that if we all worked together and weeded out those who only want to bash the work of others, this would be a better place.

Wouldn't you love it if everyone was as excited as you are, Wendy, when you published another book? Wouldn't you be so excited that you couldn't wait to tell everyone. Sure, you have that relationship with some of the regulars here, but you should have that with most of the people who write here.

We shouldn't have petty jealousies. This is cyber space, for God's sake. This isn't real.

Surely, I don't want to come here if I'm just met with people who don't even write stories or write very little other than what they post on the board. I'm here to write stories. I'm here to learn how to be a better writer. The rest of this stuff is just a diversion while waiting for my window of inspiration to open up again.
 
Yes, Scouries is guilty of writing mean things, but he's one man against an army of those who have written mean things about him.

This is where you have it wrong. It all started several years ago, before you were even around, when he posted a thread reviewing all the stories in a contest, and trashing every single one of them along with their authors - again, he was just pissed off he didn't win.

He set the stage for his own treatment, Freddie, and he's getting exactly what he deserves.
 
This is where you have it wrong. It all started several years ago, before you were even around, when he posted a thread reviewing all the stories in a contest, and trashing every single one of them along with their authors - again, he was just pissed off he didn't win.

He set the stage for his own treatment, Freddie, and he's getting exactly what he deserves.

Well, that was wrong of him to do that. Yet, I've had people here who have written some pretty terrible things about me. I've had personal attacks launched at me. Yeah, what was written hurt and I was angry, but I got over it.

I haven't seen the Scouries that you saw several years ago. You must admit that most of his thread is entertaining, otherwise no one would post to it. Surely, it would have disappeared long ago.

I believe that every one deserves a second chance. Moreover, we all need to come together for the sake of this site. We all need to work at making this a better place. Certainly, I'd rather come here with a smile on my face rather than a dread wondering what some whacko has commented on my story. And it is so much more disturbing when the whacko comment comes from one of your fellow writers followed by a 1 bomb.

Scouries is only one person here with only one thread. Surely, he is easy enough to ignore for the good of the site. Sure, we shouldn't miss the big picture just for one person. Surely, we all have better things to do with out time than to squabble.
 
I haven't seen the Scouries that you saw several years ago. You must admit that most of his thread is entertaining, otherwise no one would post to it.

Well HE would certainly continue to post to it. I'm quite sure it wouldn't just disappear. He wouldn't allow that. He's too narcissistic not to try to draw that attention to himself. :rolleyes:

You think what he's said on his thread is all entertainment and not mean, vindictive, calculatingly nasty or downright libelous? Puleeeeeze!

He's accused people of all sorts of untrue things, called them racist, sexist and homophobic (or homosexist - ha, coined a new term!) names. He's used his raging paranoia against other authors, maligned them and their work, and has certainly never given one iota of encouragement to another writer outside of his small (very, very small) circle of cronies (i.e. you and Mr. Sarahhhhh)

You want authors who encourage each other, give each other honest but fair critiques and do so without venom? Welcome to the AH. That's what we do here.

But when someone starts out, as Scouries did, on the attack, or like you, whining constantly like a little baby who didn't get what they felt they deserved, you get as good as you give.

You have to GIVE what you want to GET. Until you - or Scouries - start doing that, you're going to get back just what you give out. In spades.
 
Well HE would certainly continue to post to it. I'm quite sure it wouldn't just disappear. He wouldn't allow that. He's too narcissistic not to try to draw that attention to himself. :rolleyes:

You think what he's said on his thread is all entertainment and not mean, vindictive, calculatingly nasty or downright libelous? Puleeeeeze!

He's accused people of all sorts of untrue things, called them racist, sexist and homophobic (or homosexist - ha, coined a new term!) names. He's used his raging paranoia against other authors, maligned them and their work, and has certainly never given one iota of encouragement to another writer outside of his small (very, very small) circle of cronies (i.e. you and Mr. Sarahhhhh)

You want authors who encourage each other, give each other honest but fair critiques and do so without venom? Welcome to the AH. That's what we do here.

But when someone starts out, as Scouries did, on the attack, or like you, whining constantly like a little baby who didn't get what they felt they deserved, you get as good as you give.

You have to GIVE what you want to GET. Until you - or Scouries - start doing that, you're going to get back just what you give out. In spades.

Now, before you arrived and launched your personal attack on me, we were having a fruitful discussion. Never have I attacked your personally and I don't understand why, with all the success that you enjoy here, that you feel the need to attack me.

How can you seriously comment on Scouries behavior when you are guilty of the same?

Do you consider whining to complain when your hard work you did to write a story to the best of your ability is met with a dozen 1 bombs the first hour that it posts? If you do, then I must wonder if you were one of the ones who bombed me.

Do you consider whining to complain about a psychopath who continues to send me disturbing PM's?

Do you consider whining to complain about mean and nasty e-mails and death threats?

Now, if you do consider the above whining then I must question your sanity.

This is my last post to you.
 
Have seen you post that a lot of times. If only it were true.

You've said farewell forever more times than Cloudy has.

A better biting phrase would've been, "You've said farewell forever more times than Phyllis Diller."

;)
 
Scouries is only one person here with only one thread. Surely, he is easy enough to ignore for the good of the site. Sure, we shouldn't miss the big picture just for one person. Surely, we all have better things to do with out time than to squabble.

That's the problem. Yes, he is just one person but with his made up lists, infomercial boasting, and his general bullshit, he does more damage than any three trolls. Readers see his bullshit and take it as fact, I'm sorry to say. Then they think all the writing is as bad as his without checking for themselves.

You wouldn't believe the questions newbies ask about the truth of what he posted on his two threads. It's not squabbling when you are trying to clean up a mess made by an idiot.

Did you ever wonder why his thread in the AH was originally tossed off the Feedback Forum? Ask around, you might get educated.

And last but not least, I keep wondering why you defend him. It makes no sense in the long run.
 
That's the problem. Yes, he is just one person but with his made up lists, infomercial boasting, and his general bullshit, he does more damage than any three trolls. Readers see his bullshit and take it as fact, I'm sorry to say. Then they think all the writing is as bad as his without checking for themselves.

You wouldn't believe the questions newbies ask about the truth of what he posted on his two threads. It's not squabbling when you are trying to clean up a mess made by an idiot.

Did you ever wonder why his thread in the AH was originally tossed off the Feedback Forum? Ask around, you might get educated.

And last but not least, I keep wondering why you defend him. It makes no sense in the long run.

It's simple TxRad.

Freddie has already stated that he is going to take over and is going to become the next "Scouries". He is claiming the "High Ground" now, so that he can dodge the initial barrage of indignation when he tries to pull the same crap Jimbo does.
 
It's simple TxRad.

Freddie has already stated that he is going to take over and is going to become the next "Scouries". He is claiming the "High Ground" now, so that he can dodge the initial barrage of indignation when he tries to pull the same crap Jimbo does.

I have better things to do with my time. I'm just here to write stories, Sue.
 
It's simple TxRad.

Freddie has already stated that he is going to take over and is going to become the next "Scouries". He is claiming the "High Ground" now, so that he can dodge the initial barrage of indignation when he tries to pull the same crap Jimbo does.

So, Freddie is Palin to Scouries' McCain? ;)
 
Hi, it’s Gabby

Scrolling through the boss’s wonderful thread and the “Daddy” I Whispered thread a few minutes ago I found reference to the genesis of the “HATE SCOURIES” movement.

Miss kitten writes: Scouries deserves this. He started a little thread about a year or so ago reviewing work that other people had done. He didn't care how he said what he thought of the work

Miss cloudy writes: This is where you have it wrong. It all started several years ago, before you were even around, when he posted a thread reviewing all the stories in a contest, and trashing every single one of them along with their authors - again, he was just pissed off he didn't win.

For those of you who never saw the thread the link is below. To characterize Mr. Scouries reviews as “trashing every single one of them along with their authors” is simply the sort of misrepresentations we’ve all come to accept from cloudy and danikat. I dare you to read the reviews and decide for yourself. All by yourselves…without being told what to think…

Scouries Sores the Nude Day Contest

At the end of the contest the boss selected his own winners. Here they are as reported so long ago. It would be hard to describe the following as “trashing every single one of them along with the authors” wouldn’t it. And surprise, surprise, the boss gave danikat an honorable mention. Boy, was he mean!

SCOURIES 2006 NUDE DAY CONTEST AWARD WINNERS
LITEROTICA’S BEST WRITERS SALUTED BY SCOTTISH LAIRD

The following authors and stories have been selected by an international panel of renowned, dead, nudist authors (all Nobel laureates), overseen by the official Haitian Election Monitoring Team and the respected International accounting firm of Scouries, Kitten and Kittyn, as the best stories in the Literotica Nude Day Contest.

[size=+4] S S S S S S S [/size]

1 – hyalhyalhyal for Daphne. It took three tries but this author finally hit a home run and wins the giant red S. It was simply continuously humorous and the writers’ ability turned what could have seemed silly or stupid into a great read. You covered everyone here- gay men, lesbians, straights, nudists, exhibitionists, voyeurs, horses; you gave us celebrities, a hint of incest, a heroine and a hero…

2 - Unsung Muse for Naked I. So completely different from everything else written here. A professionalism that makes me think that maybe you shouldn’t be allowed in the contest – you’re simply too good. Smoking hot! Tres sexy! I’m afraid that now, every time one of those afternoon storms catches me unprepared on Ocean Drive or Lincoln Road, I’ll look around, wondering which rain soaked woman is our famous author.

3 – kbate for Capital City Art Exhibition. I liked this story an awful lot when I first read it but only gave it a 3 (lowered from 3.95) mainly because of the lesbian theme. Celeste (see, I told you I’d get your name in hon), a friend of mine, read it and loved it, insisting the sex was way hot. I read it again and completely agreed. Read it a third time while deciding placings – still found it great. It’s funny and erotic! Intelligent. Modern. Funny. Dead on theme. Liked the way you spread your different erotic scenes throughout the story. The shaving scene, the police stop, the bar scene, you even threw in a sister/sister act – never knew you girls had it so good. A more than enjoyable read.

4 – scouries for Becky’s South Beach Spring Break No self-promoting author would omit to put one of his own stories on a winners list, so here is mine. While not actually entered in the ‘official competition’, it does have more public nudism in it than 90% of the entries, and was released on Literotica during June. Wasn’t rated very highly (and did receive a couple of very cheap shots from unnamed critics), but has received 294 votes. Sexy and fun – read it. WARNING: A very observant neonlyte pointed out in one of his pithy posts that the word ‘nigger’ is used in this story. If you believe, like he does, that this word should never be uttered by a character in any story, please don’t read it.

5 – Rassendyll for Naked and Public. Perhaps not everyone’s choice but I loved it. I keep wanting to move it higher up this list. Hilarious. The English at their best. I’ve already filmed the Brit-com in my head. Read it!!

6 – FunDareGuy for A Day at the Beach. When I first read this I didn’t know it was in the contest (it hadn’t appeared on the Nude Day Contest list right away) but loved it. Doesn’t have the sex I’d normally require and perhaps is too undemanding for the purists. It wins a prize though simply because I thoroughly enjoyed it.

7 - gauchecritic for Carol and Denny’s Exchange I didn’t have this story among my prize winners until literally minutes ago. When I looked down my list of winners just before submitting it I found I didn’t want to leave this one off. I had to drop another good story but thems the breaks. This one deserves an S.

8 – Totzman for Nude Secretaries Day This story, along with ‘Daphne’ and ‘kbate’s’, was the kind of story I was hoping the nude day theme would produce. Funny, light, interesting, sexy. Now exactly who are you anyway?

Special Awards

Best Off-Theme Story Award to AliciaNightOrchid for Three Nude Women Simply excellent writing! I had to invent a category for this story to win in – she was one of only three 5’s I awarded.

Silver W Award to ??????? – The Silver W was first awarded after the Xmas contest and goes to the story that receives the most votes. Anyone who believes he may be eligible for this prize can send me a message detailing his vote count.

Gold W Award to ???????? – For most total views received. Having no list of views on the stories entered I’ll have to wait until contestants advise me of how many views their stories got. (hyalhyalhyal has said he’s received 90,000+ views for Kimmy so your total would have to be higher than this)

Readers Choice AwardsSarahhh for Daddy, I’m Naked and DG Hear for Zoea. Had no plan to give these prizes until I stumbled into the ‘Feedback Portal’ by mistake two days ago. Both stories had over 100 comments! Jesus! That’s more comments than most stories get votes. The public has clearly spoken!

Honorable Mention – Elayne, R Richard, robert12, Alex de Kok, Mayhem Lass, rumple, Daniellllllllllle

Gabrielle L.
 
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