Sarah Palin

[sr71plt]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
Falwell never ran, that I know of. Pat Robertson has, and has been soundly rejected.



I don't think you ever mentioned Falwell running, but you did make a reference to the possibility, or lack of same:

Quote:
Originally Posted by sr71plt
Well, we do know that electing Jerry Fallwell would be a message to the nation (and maybe something we deserve). Considering he's dead.

I was responding to Selena. Welcome to an "ah, so" moment.

 

[Guest]

Actually, Missouri elected a dead man to the Senate a few years ago. The alternative was voting for some third party candidate or for the Republican, John Asswipe or whatever his name was. The voters preferred the dead man.

To be honest, the Dem. candidate died suddenly in late Oct. and the governor said he would appoint his widow, if he won, and that was what happened.

John Ashcroft.

He did lose to Mel Carnahan, who was deceased.

Of course, not long after that, Bush appointed him to be Attorney General.

 

[sr71plt]

No doubt Rox will now tell how McCain represents "the common man" [married to the multimillionaire].

Well, he did dump is ill wife to pick up one who was loaded. How much more "common man" could you get, I wonder.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I don't think there's any truth to Obama being a Muslim. He's said he's not any number of times, he's been attending a Christian church for ages, and his family is also Christian. The stuff about him being a Muslim is just the xenophobia (and possibly racism, not sure) of middle America.

Evangelicals seem to have the feeling that the world needs to become Christians of the same stripe as them. Moreover, as someone who's been a witch for the last 31 years (though not actively practicing for some time), I tend to take it personally when someone's holy book says that I should be killed. Muslims are not by definition fundamentalists, but evangelicals pretty much are.

I would not say Obama is a Muslim, and I am unsure that he ever was. However, here are some links. I don't know how reliable the sources are but some of the references they include could be checked.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...s-childhood-friends-deny-he-was-a-Muslim.html

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.politics/2008-09/msg01992.html

Islamic fundies also believe everybody should share their beliefs, and they feel it is justifiable to kill any "infidel" who does not. I believe that a Witch would be considered such a person.

Personally, I dislike fundamentals of any kind, and consideer them to be a plague on the world.

 

[Guest]

I would not say Obama is a Muslim, and I am unsure that he ever was. However, here are some links. I don't know how reliable the sources are but some of the references they include could be checked.
. . .

Box.

These sites are reliable. Use them.

http://www.factcheck.org/

http://www.snopes.com/

 

[Boxlicker101]

Pretty good come back Rox from what looked like a (self) knockout but surely the political reality is:-

1 That the guy in the hot seat now always takes the blame. And that's GWB

2 If Bush had really wanted better regulation he's done stuff all since 2003 appoint unsuitable people to regulatory roles. His defence is that he can start a war but can't beat up on a couple of Democrat members of Congress? It won't wash rox.

3 A decent President would have called in the bosses of Freddie and Fanny screamed blue murder at them for half an hour and the greedy so in so's would have been so scared of losing their sinecures that they might have done their jobs half properly.

Having good regulations is only half the answer. You need a chief executive who will kick heads occasionally to keep his appointees in order. One point rarely made about GWB is not that he is incompetant but that he is incredibly weak

You're right, but there are also some congressional committees who are supposed to be overseeing things. For a year and a half, they have been headed by Dems, including Barney Frank. They have been just as remiss as W. I won't say "more" but I also won't say "less."

 

[Guest]

You're right, but there are also some congressional committees who are supposed to be overseeing things. For a year and a half, they have been headed by Dems, including Barney Frank. They have been just as remiss as W. I won't say "more" but I also won't say "less."

Christ.

Sorry the Dems couldn't fix in a year and a half what your boy fucked up during the previous six.

We'll try much harder the next four, hmm?

 

[sr71plt]

Christ.

Sorry the Dems couldn't fix in a year and a half what your boy fucked up during the previous six.

We'll try much harder the next four, hmm?

Not to mention trying to do it with a near-majority naysaying Republican delegation anchor around your neck.

 

[Safe_Bet]

Christ.

Sorry the Dems couldn't fix in a year and a half what your boy fucked up during the previous six.

We'll try much harder the next four, hmm?

*snerk*

 

[Boxlicker101]

Box.

These sites are reliable. Use them.

http://www.factcheck.org/

http://www.snopes.com/

I used Factcheck and this is what I came up with. Apparently, there are a few small kernels of truth in the accusation, but very few and very small:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html

I opened the other one but was unable to open anything within it.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
You're right, but there are also some congressional committees who are supposed to be overseeing things. For a year and a half, they have been headed by Dems, including Barney Frank. They have been just as remiss as W. I won't say "more" but I also won't say "less."

Christ.

Sorry the Dems couldn't fix in a year and a half what your boy fucked up during the previous six.

We'll try much harder the next four, hmm?

Not only couldn't, but didn't even try.

ETA: By the way, what do you mean "My boy?" I don't believe I have ever had anything good to say about W, and I voted against him twice.

 

[Guest]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
You're right, but there are also some congressional committees who are supposed to be overseeing things. For a year and a half, they have been headed by Dems, including Barney Frank. They have been just as remiss as W. I won't say "more" but I also won't say "less."




Not only couldn't, but didn't even try.

ETA: By the way, what do you mean "My boy?" I don't believe I have ever had anything good to say about W, and I voted against him twice.

Seriously?

No offense intended, Box, but you tend to defend every damn thing he does.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Seriously?

No offense intended, Box, but you tend to defend every damn thing he does.

I don't defend W, but I do sometimes point out that he is not the only person who is responsible, such as here, RE: Katrina, and whenever else I might seem to be defending him.

 

[Guest]

I don't defend W, but I do sometimes point out that he is not the only person who is responsible, such as here, RE: Katrina, and whenever else I might seem to be defending him.

Okay. Sure.

 

[cantdog]

Not only couldn't; didn't even try. Quite true. They voted in telecom immunity, they still haven't acted to enforce their subpeonas on those White House birds who refused to show up, they refuse to impeach. They seem only to lack one thing in the matter of fixing this: the will. Lobbyists run the joint, that's all.

 

[cantdog]

I address here only the domestic problems. Internationally, the mess is even larger, and there are real constraints. Domestically, though, the little matter of the constitution needs some attention, and there's little or nothing in the way of restoring it.

 

[Belegon]

Oh, tax and spend are just the start, darling! Don't forget regulate, turn over to unions (to whom we'll give a free pass as far as any accountability), tariff, micro-manage, "plan" - the list goes on and on.

Do you know, some repubs (and maybe even a dem or two) have been trying for more than five years to rein-in Fannie and Freddie. What was the obstacle? Primarily the Dem caucuses in the House and Senate, led by world class crooks the like of Chalie Rangel and Barnie Frank.

Don't believe me? Read all about it from your own house organ: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa...2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print

Here's one of my favorites:

''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ''The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.''

Roxy:

Don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining. I know what's going on in the banking industry. I know it better than you. Because I was there. And now I'm collecting unemployment checks because my bank was there too and needed to cut costs.

You want to talk about the real bullshit on the inside we can do that. To a point. That non-disclosure agreement kinda holds me back some. But while on most subjects we hold debate because we have differences of opinion, that's not this subject.

I know what happened here. And the seeds were sown a long fucking time ago. The problem in 1992 was they didn't go far enough. We thought we could handle it. We were wrong.

We should have learned from the S & L's. And while we did learn some, we apparently did not learn enough.

Especially when one of the fucking Keating Five is running for President and is somehow close in the polls.

 

[Belegon]

Oh, and by the way... it's gonna get worse. You thought the first mortgages were upside down?

There are an awful lot of foreclosures out there who have second and thirds, too.

 

[Belegon]

You're right, but there are also some congressional committees who are supposed to be overseeing things. For a year and a half, they have been headed by Dems, including Barney Frank. They have been just as remiss as W. I won't say "more" but I also won't say "less."

Box, the seeds of the current crisis were sown under REAGAN. Seriously. It's been that long coming.

No matter who we elect, there is no "quick fix." Neither Obama nor McCain can fix this in one term.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

Box, the seeds of the current crisis were sown under REAGAN. Seriously. It's been that long coming.

No matter who we elect, there is no "quick fix." Neither Obama nor McCain can fix this in one term.

two? *she asks hopefully* pretty please?

 

[Belegon]

two? *she asks hopefully* pretty please?

With the cooperation of congress and the advice of men like Warren Buffet... Yeah, I think that in two terms you could get the car turned in the right direction... but you wouldn't get all the driving done on the trip. Too much mileage has been covered in the wrong direction.

Mind you, I have a very strict POV on this. And it's very focused on the part of the landscape that can be seen from the desk of a bank operations manager.

 

[Pure]

more fallout

apparently this column was noticed by right wing talk show hosts, and they ranted a lot, and Mallick got a lot of hateful email. was called a 'pig' by sustern on Fox.

[excerpt from sept 5 column]
'Turn your guns on Levi, ma'am'

Palin has a toned-down version of the porn actress look favoured by this decade's woman, the overtreated hair, puffy lips and permanently alarmed expression. Bristol has what is known in Britain as the look of the teen mum, the "pramface." Husband Todd looks like a roughneck; Track, heading off to Iraq, appears terrified. They claim to be family obsessed while being studiously terrible at parenting. What normal father would want Levi "I'm a fuckin' redneck" Johnson prodding his daughter?

I know that I have an attachment to children that verges on the irrational, but why don't the Palins? I'm not the one preaching homespun values but I'd destroy that ratboy before I'd let him get within scenting range of my daughter again, and so would you. Palin's e-mails about the brother-in-law she tried to get fired as a state trooper are fizzing with rage and revenge. Turn your guns on Levi, ma'am.

Palin has it all, along with being vicious and profoundly dishonest. Just hours after her first convention speech, the Associated Press did a good fast listing of her untruths and I won't dwell on them.

I did promise to watch the entire convention so you wouldn't have to, but I discovered a neat trick. I switched between the convention and the 2003 folk music mockumentary A Mighty Wind on Bravo.

They were indistinguishable. Click on a nervous wreck with deeply strange hair doing a monologue on society today and where it all went wrong. Are you watching Christian belter Aaron Tippin singing Where the Stars and Stripes and Eagle Fly in the Xcel Centre in St. Paul or the actors from Spinal Tap remixing the 1966 version of Potato's in the Paddy Wagon?

Who delivered this line: "To do then now would be retro. To do then then was very now-tro, if you will." Was it Rev. James Dobson of Focus on the Family talking about Bristol Palin's shotgun wedding or was it a flashback to the Kingston Trio?

end excerpt

 

[Selena_Kitt]

Palin has a toned-down version of the porn actress look favoured by this decade's woman, the overtreated hair, puffy lips and permanently alarmed expression.

Wow. That's eerily accurate as a general observation. (I guess I'm a pig.)

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pure
Palin has a toned-down version of the porn actress look favoured by this decade's woman, the overtreated hair, puffy lips and permanently alarmed expression.

Wow. That's eerily accurate as a general observation. (I guess I'm a pig.)

I don't think I've ever seen a porn actress wearing glasses.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

I don't think I've ever seen a porn actress wearing glasses.

And you call yourself a SMUT writer!?!??!!?

cum covered glasses site...