Sarah Palin

Of course. I'm just saying that those who describe Khadaffi and Obama as being friends have some basis for that belief. I said so in response to another posting on the previous page.

Don't shoot the messenger.

Some people say that John McCain suffered deep psychological damage from his years of being tortured and held captive and that it severely limited his ability to think rationally, hence his inability to control his temper.

Of course. I'm just saying that those who describe McCain that way have some basis for that belief.

Don't shoot the messenger.
 
Someone said that Sarah Palin fucked a wolf and now she's having them killed to quash the rumors. I'm not saying she did, but where there's smoke, there's fire.

Don't shoot the messenger.
 
Someone said that Sarah Palin fucked a wolf and now she's having them killed to quash the rumors. I'm not saying she did, but where there's smoke, there's fire.

Don't shoot the messenger.

Hey, that makes as much sense as Obama being friends with Gaddafi.

(but you're being mean to Palin. That's sexist!)
 
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Someone said that Sarah Palin had a partial-birth-abortion with her first pregnancy because it was not her husbands but a love child from an affair and that she subsequently came to be against abortion for any reason. Now I don't know that it's true but surely whoever said it must have a reason.

Don't shoot the messenger.
 
I'm really torn between the Sarah's:

There is that really nice one who loves her kids and her husband, did her best to keep porn out of the local library, (remember when she lost her Internet) and is a great organiser for her (AH) community; and there's Palin :D

I figure if I can't get anyone to discuss policy... I might as well join the fun party;)
 
I'm really torn between the Sarah's:

There is that really nice one who loves her kids and her husband, did her best to keep porn out of the local library, (remember when she lost her Internet) and is a great organiser for her (AH) community; and there's Palin :D

I figure if I can't get anyone to discuss policy... I might as well join the fun party;)

She's one of my favorite people as well. :heart:

*beams*

I love you both!


:heart::heart::heart:
 
brilliant article: frank rich

palin as a 50s throwback. rep'n 'america first'-ism,

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/opinion/14rich.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

excerpt

This was made clear in the most chilling passage of Palin’s acceptance speech. Aligning herself with “a young farmer and a haberdasher from Missouri” who “followed an unlikely path to the vice presidency,” she read a quote from an unidentified writer who, she claimed, had praised Truman: “We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity.” Then Palin added a snide observation of her own: Such small-town Americans, she said, “run our factories” and “fight our wars” and are “always proud” of their country. As opposed to those lazy, shiftless, unproud Americans — she didn’t have to name names — who are none of the above.

There were several creepy subtexts at work here. The first was the choice of Truman. Most 20th-century vice presidents and presidents in both parties hailed from small towns, but she just happened to alight on a Democrat who ascended to the presidency when an ailing president died in office. Just as striking was the unnamed writer she quoted. He was identified by Thomas Frank in The Wall Street Journal as the now largely forgotten but once powerful right-wing Hearst columnist Westbrook Pegler.

Palin, who lies with ease about her own record, misrepresented Pegler’s too. He decreed America was “done for” after Truman won a full term in 1948. [...]. Pegler was a rabid Joe McCarthyite who loathed F.D.R. and Ike and tirelessly advanced the theory that American Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe (“geese,” he called them) were all likely Communists.

Surely Palin knows no more about Pegler than she does about the Bush doctrine. But the people around her do, and they will be shaping a Palin presidency. [...]Rick Davis, the McCain campaign manager, said that the Palin-sparked convention created “a whole new Republican Party,” but what it actually did was exhume an old one from its crypt.

The specifics have changed in our new century, but the vitriolic animus of right-wing populism preached by Pegler and McCarthy and revived by the 1990s culture wars remains the same. The game is always to pit the good, patriotic real Americans against those subversive, probably gay “cosmopolitan” urbanites (as the sometime cross-dresser Rudy Giuliani has it) who threaten to take away everything that small-town folk hold dear.

The racial component to this brand of politics was undisguised in St. Paul. Americans saw a virtually all-white audience yuk it up when Giuliani ridiculed Barack Obama’s “only in America” success as an affirmative-action fairy tale — and when he and Palin mocked Obama’s history as a community organizer in Chicago. Neither party has had so few black delegates (1.5 percent) in the 40 years since the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies started keeping a record. [end excerpt]
 
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IS palin like truman, as she suggests?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman#U.S._Senator

off the top, he was captain in the army, and served well. upon returning, he married and after a short spell in haberdashery, he became a county judge. he never finished law school or finished a four year college (some educational similarities).

he'd served almost two full terms in the US senate, 1934-44; as senator, he headed the 'truman committee' investigating waste in procurement for the war (US entered war in 1941). he thus became nationally known before being put in the VP slot on the midst of the war. FDR after re election in 1944 would not last more than a year.

the politics of his time does sound pretty corrupt; they have that in common!
 
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"Ask her about dinosaurs!"

LOL

They discussed it on a news program this morning, I forget which one.

The Republican pundit commented on Tina Fey's humorous parody, said it was a nice job.

My husband and I looked at each other - parody? We didn't see it as parody.

Though it was dead on.

:cool:
 
thanks for the SNL link!! brilliant!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc3Zxq078ns

Thanks, Pure.

:)

They've pulled it from youtube already. Here's another source:

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/09/saturday-night.html

And here's the transcript.

Minutes after the Clinton-Palin sketch aired on "SNL," a spokesman for the show sent out a full transcript of the piece, and I've reprinted it in full below.

An NBC transcript of "SNL's" opening sketch:

FEY AS PALIN: "Good evening, my fellow Americans. I was so excited when I was told Senator Clinton and I would be addressing you tonight."

POEHLER AS CLINTON: "And I was told I would be addressing you alone."

FEY AS PALIN: "Now I know it must be a little bit strange for all of you to see the two of us together. What with me being John McCain's running mate."

POEHLER AS CLINTON: "And me being a fervent supporter of Senator Barack Obama -- as evidenced by this button."

FEY AS PALIN: "But tonight we are crossing party lines to address the now very ugly role that sexism is playing in the campaign."

POEHLER AS CLINTON: "An issue which I am frankly surprised to hear people suddenly care about."

FEY AS PALIN: "You know, Hillary and I don't agree on everything..."

POEHLER AS CLINTON: (OVERLAPPING) "Anything. I believe that diplomacy should be the cornerstone of any foreign policy."

FEY AS PALIN: "And I can see Russia from my house."

POEHLER AS CLINTON: "I believe global warming is caused by man."

FEY AS PALIN: "And I believe it's just God hugging us closer."

POEHLER AS CLINTON: "I don't agree with the Bush Doctrine."

FEY AS PALIN: "I don't know what that is."

POEHLER AS CLINTON: "But Sarah, one thing we can agree on is that sexism can never be allowed to permeate an American election."

FEY AS PALIN: "So please, stop photoshopping my head on sexy bikini pictures."

POEHLER AS CLINTON: "And stop saying I have cankles."

FEY AS PALIN: "Don't refer to me as a 'MILF.'"

POEHLER AS CLINTON: "And don't refer to me as a [flurge]. I Googled what it stands for and I do not like it."

FEY AS PALIN: "So we ask reporters and commentators, stop using words that diminish us, like 'pretty,' 'attractive,' 'beautiful.'"

POEHLER AS CLINTON: "'Harpy,' 'shrew' and 'boner shrinker.'"

FEY AS PALIN: "While our politics may differ, my friend and I are both very tough ladies. You know it reminds me of a joke we tell in Alaska..."What's the difference...

POEHLER AS CLINTON: "Lipstick."

FEY AS PALIN: "...between a hockey mom..."

POEHLER AS CLINTON: "Lipstick."

FEY AS PALIN: "...and a pitbull?"

POEHLER AS CLINTON: "Lipstick."

FEY AS PALIN(AFTER A BEAT): "Lipstick. Just look at how far we've come. Hillary Clinton, who came so close to the White House. And me, Sarah Palin, who is even closer. Can you believe it, Hillary?"

POEHLER AS CLINTON: (AFTER A PAUSE)"I can not."

FEY AS PALIN: "It's truly amazing and I think women everywhere can agree, that no matter your politics, it's time for a woman to make it to the White House."

POEHLER AS CLINTON: "No. Mine! It's supposed to be mine! I need to say something. I didn't want a woman to be President. I wanted to be President and I just happen to be a woman. And I don't want to hear you compare your road to the White House to my road to the White House. I scratched and clawed through mud and barbed wire and you just glided in on a dog sled wearing your pageant sash and your Tina Fey glasses."

FEY AS PALIN:
"What an amazing time we live in. To think that just two years ago, I was a small town mayor of Alaska's crystal meth capitol. And now I am just one heartbeat away from being President of the United States. It just goes to show that anyone can be President."

POEHLER AS CLINTON: "Anyone."

FEY AS PALIN: "All you have to do is want it."

POEHLER AS CLINTON: (LAUGHS) "Yeah, you know, Sarah, looking back, if I could change one thing, I should have wanted it more." (RIPS OFF PIECE OF PODIUM)

FEY AS PALIN: "So in the next six weeks, I invite the media to be vigilant for sexist behavior."

POEHLER AS CLINTON: "Although it is never sexist to question female politicians credentials. Please ask this one about dinosaurs. So I invite the media to grow a pair. And if you can't, I will lend you mine."

FEY AS PALIN: And as we say in Alaska...

POEHLER AS CLINTON: "We say it everywhere..."

FEY/POEHLER: "Live from New York, It's Saturday Night!!!
 
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the hysteria over Palin is both hilarious and frightening simultaneously.
I wish conservatives could get a divorce from the liberals in this country and take half the country and live in it as we please...
I'd take ALASKA alone.Why? Energy "crisis" cut in 2 when we "drill our way out of the problem" while the LIBS gaze at their navels and contemplate wind power operating their vehicles.
 
sarahh,

we need a new link. surely the forces of evil haven't squashed the vid, yet.

the trib one says 'not outside us.'
 
Why is no one calling into question McCain's ability to make good judgments because of the poor judgment he showed in choosing Palin? Probably because to assert that position, the media would have to conclude that the Palin decision was short-sighted and ill-informed. To do that, they'd have to, as Poehler-as-Clinton said, "grow a pair."

And before I'm attached as a stare-at-my-navel liberal (hey, at least no one's leveled "bleeding heart" yet), I am not. Action must be taken. Since energy was brought up, strong moves toward wind and solar need to be made, and to do that, incentives must be given to those who would develop them. But recently, McCain voted against continuing what meager incentives we were giving them. "Drill, baby, drill!" will only further our dependence on oil, and that means foreign oil. OPEC has got to be licking their chops, and you can bet their lobbyists are gearing up and the money's flowing to anything that'll get McCain elected. (Read Thomas Friedman's new book.)

I await intelligent replies.
 
Why is no one calling into question McCain's ability to make good judgments because of the poor judgment he showed in choosing Palin? Probably because to assert that position, the media would have to conclude that the Palin decision was short-sighted and ill-informed. To do that, they'd have to, as Poehler-as-Clinton said, "grow a pair."

And before I'm attached as a stare-at-my-navel liberal (hey, at least no one's leveled "bleeding heart" yet), I am not. Action must be taken. Since energy was brought up, strong moves toward wind and solar need to be made, and to do that, incentives must be given to those who would develop them. But recently, McCain voted against continuing what meager incentives we were giving them. "Drill, baby, drill!" will only further our dependence on oil, and that means foreign oil. OPEC has got to be licking their chops, and you can bet their lobbyists are gearing up and the money's flowing to anything that'll get McCain elected. (Read Thomas Friedman's new book.)

I await intelligent replies.

I go back and forth on my thoughts about this.

At first I thought her selection was merely a ploy directed towards the female half of the United States.

"Obama didn't choose a woman VP, you liked Hillary, here ya go! Now shaddup!"

But I'm beginning to think she's a sacrificial distractionary lamb akin to Dan Quayle with Bush the first.

Create enough confusion, keep those tongues wagging about little things, and the country loses sight of the important big picture (pictures).

I don't believe McCain chose her in a maverick fashion. He does have many handlers. I think it was well-planned, seriously crafted.

It does make me grin to see McCain's strained face, though. Though not qualified to be president Palin is an intelligent woman with strong opinions. I picture the two of them in a room, heatedly discussing foreign or domestic policies.

It isn't pretty. :D
 
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