X Genre / Gender Challenge

[Safe_Bet]

I want to develop some new 'poem' muscles and I welcome you along as well. This is going to be a two-part challenge:

Challenge Part #1: Write a poem from the exact opposite view point of what you actually are.

For example, as a femme lesbian - I'm going to write a poem as if I were a macho dude. It is easy for me to write something from the "done" aspect, but as a male "do'er" is going to be a challenge (even with Amy as a role model ).

Challenge Part #2: Critique two poems that MATCH who you really are. For example, I'll critique points of a femme lesbian poem written by one of you macho dudes/dudettes. These critiques certainly may discuss the actual poem, but should go farther to correct any genre / gender specific inaccuracies, such as: not all dykes ride trikes (Amy rides a Sportster & I ride bitch ) ; no, if you had the chance you COULD NOT turn me hetero; not all lesbians like getting it in the ass with a 18" strap on (only SOME of us! )

 

[WickedEve]

Hmm, I'd need to write from the POV of a sunshine-happy gay man?

 

[Safe_Bet]

Hmm, I'd need to write from the POV of a sunshine-happy gay man?

Yeah, you are going to be a difficult one. Maybe a sunshine-happy straight Presbyterian?

 

[Safe_Bet]

Okay, macho dude / dudettes here is my first try at macho straight guy:

Big splash of the good Old Spice
Chicks like a guy that smells real nice.
all you loser just gotta agree
girls just can't help but wanta have me

The bulge looks good thru polyester
they’ll all want me as their molester
just one more little pull on the toupe
yeah, every girl will be coming my way.

 

[WickedEve]

Maybe a sunshine-happy straight Presbyterian?

Hell, no!

 

[Tzara]

I want to develop some new 'poem' muscles and I welcome you along as well. This is going to be a two-part challenge:

Challenge Part #1: Write a poem from the exact opposite view point of what you actually are.

For example, as a femme lesbian - I'm going to write a poem as if I were a macho dude. It is easy for me to write something from the "done" aspect, but as a male "do'er" is going to be a challenge (even with Amy as a role model ).

Challenge Part #2: Critique two poems that MATCH who you really are. For example, I'll critique points of a femme lesbian poem written by one of you macho dudes/dudettes. These critiques certainly may discuss the actual poem, but should go farther to correct any genre / gender specific inaccuracies, such as: not all dykes ride trikes (Amy rides a Sportster & I ride bitch ) ; no, if you had the chance you COULD NOT turn me hetero; not all lesbians like getting it in the ass with a 18" strap on (only SOME of us! )

Interesting idea, SB. I have wanted for some time to have a challenge similar to this, though the "exact opposite viewpoint" is not quite what I was thinking about.

I've experimented with writing from a feminine viewpoint about sex, for example here and here. Have no idea if they work at all, but they were fun to write.

I would, though, mildly suggest that "a macho dude" is not your opposite. That persona is still too into sex, is too passionate. I would suggest, rather, you write about a man who has very vanilla tastes and may be rather undersexed.

So I guess my question would be what is my opposite? Gay female, of course. (Maybe. What about transvestite?) But what else? Butch? Femme? Simply uninterested? Wild about it? Indulges in public orgies (that would not be me)?

I need some clarification here.

Love the idea though. Would it be rude to say that my fist is already itchy?

Is Amy hiring out as coach?

 

[Tzara]

OK, first try. I don't know what I'm doing, so my apologies if I am unwittingly being offensive:

Roseus

She slapped me
and I dripped sap
along my leg,

like a young pine
twisted, cut
by a severe forester.

But then I lapped
from that thin slice
in her trunk,

my hair grasped tight,
held firm.
There I drank another life,

from mother to mother,
set myself low
and opened. Pink.​

 

[Safe_Bet]

Interesting idea, SB. I have wanted for some time to have a challenge similar to this, though the "exact opposite viewpoint" is not quite what I was thinking about.

I've experimented with writing from a feminine viewpoint about sex, for example here and here. Have no idea if they work at all, but they were fun to write.

That, Sir, is one of the reason that you are an Honorary Lesbian!

I would, though, mildly suggest that "a macho dude" is not your opposite. That persona is still too into sex, is too passionate. I would suggest, rather, you write about a man who has very vanilla tastes and may be rather undersexed.

To quote Eve: "Hell, No!" Now you want ME to be a straight Presbyterian? Damn it! I suppose your right. Anybody who gets the mega-hornies from seeing a hot chick isn't my exact opposite. Who came up with this stupid flipping challenge anyway? I guess I've got some work to do on my X persona then.

So I guess my question would be what is my opposite? Gay female, of course. (Maybe. What about transvestite?) But what else? Butch? Femme? Simply uninterested? Wild about it? Indulges in public orgies (that would not be me)?
I need some clarification here.

Definitely femme lesbian, with a touch of submissive added in for good measure. You gotta want to "give it up" to a same sex partner who enjoys dominating you. Try that on and see if it "doesn't" fit.

Love the idea though. Would it be rude to say that my fist is already itchy?

They make creams that help that.

Is Amy hiring out as coach?

Oh yeah. I had her read this and she is SO ready to teach you how to be her "bitch"

 

[champagne1982]

A Lay Brother

I have never tasted
what you shelter beneath
those sacred garments

yet your scent reminds
me of your femininity
and tempts me; as Adam
struggled so do I.
I pray forgiveness
for the lust I've sinned

within my thoughts as they tingle
at the apex of my spine, inside
my skull where the winds
buffet my good intentions
and tear them into tattered
pennants, to flap ragged in the air.

Lift up that nightdress
and let me sink
into damning pleasure.

I will atone tomorrow.

 

[Tzara]

Oh yeah. I had her read this and she is SO ready to teach you how to be her "bitch"

OK. Another try, then:

Fisted

Then your entire hand thrust into me,
abruptly reaching through my cunt, my heart.

I could only gasp and stretch
my body to accept this. Yet I hurt

and yearned for your fond violence,
for I was never opened so

by anyone, be they friend or foe.
It was as if God

entered me, insistent, so large
so as to throttle my loins, lay them

helpless on the ground, and there
tickle them. But you are not God,

and your arm and your glorious hand
are not God. But yet God, yet. God.​

That any better? Worse?

I'm guy and completely clueless?

 

[Liar]

That the hell is the opposite of me, a female, egosexual, masochistic scat lover?

 

[noisymother]

Hmmmm

I'm an (ostensibly) straight female - but already when I write I do so as a gay man (most of the time) - I guess I'm just ahead of the game . . .

 

[Safe_Bet]

OK. Another try, then:

Fisted

Then your entire hand thrust into me,
abruptly reaching through my cunt, my heart.

I could only gasp and stretch
my body to accept this. Yet I hurt

and yearned for your fond violence,
for I was never opened so

by anyone, be they friend or foe.
It was as if God

entered me, insistent, so large
so as to throttle my loins, lay them

helpless on the ground, and there
tickle them. But you are not God,

and your arm and your glorious hand
are not God. But yet God, yet. God.​

That any better? Worse?

I'm guy and completely clueless?

Damn! You turned into quite the Pain slut haven't you!

I like the piece. Personally, I'd like to see a longer poem with more of a lead up to the fist (erm, you START with fingers and before you get "arm" you had better already be on the verge of insanity or you will be a might bit "uncomfortable".)

AMY writes: Oh, you are going to be such an enjoyable little bitch!

You don't think I'd allow you to get all the pleasure without making you get me turned on first, do you? I like making you cum by fucking you, my little submissive slut, but I'm going to enjoy getting you there first. Plus, if you think that you are just going to lay there when I am fisting you, think again bitch! Show me how much you want it! Remember that fisting is more about domination that it is about pure sexual gratification. Even after doing you with my strap-on, it isn't going to "tickle"!

 

[champagne1982]

That the hell is the opposite of me, a female, egosexual, masochistic scat lover?

I like this. You could be writing a story instead of a poem.
I figured the opposite of a liberal, expressive woman would be a repressed, religious man. Go for it

 

[Safe_Bet]

I like this. You could be writing a story instead of a poem.
I figured the opposite of a liberal, expressive woman would be a repressed, religious man. Go for it

Oh Christ! This place is getting over-run by straight, male, Presbyterians! Move over Eve! We gotta make room for another one!

 

[Tzara]

Damn! You turned into quite the Pain slut haven't you!

I like the piece. Personally, I'd like to see a longer poem with more of a lead up to the fist (erm, you START with fingers and before you get "arm" you had better already be on the verge of insanity or you will be a might bit "uncomfortable".)

AMY writes: Oh, you are going to be such an enjoyable little bitch!

You don't think I'd allow you to get all the pleasure without making you get me turned on first, do you? I like making you cum by fucking you, my little submissive slut, but I'm going to enjoy getting you there first. Plus, if you think that you are just going to lay there when I am fisting you, think again bitch! Show me how much you want it! Remember that fisting is more about domination that it is about pure sexual gratification. Even after doing you with my strap-on, it isn't going to "tickle"!

Guys. We always forget about that foreplay part, don't we?

 

[Safe_Bet]

Guys. We always forget about that foreplay part, don't we?

Ssssh, Tzara! You're giving away secret lesbian information!

What I'm sure you meant to say was, "Ahem, yeah guys, 'dem bitches like to be slapped, then dry fucked! They don't like 'dat huggy kissy shit neither. Plus, I always throw two bits on the bed, after a good 5 minute fuck, so that she knows I appreciate her!"

 

[Tzara]

Ssssh, Tzara! You're giving away secret lesbian information!

What I'm sure you meant to say was, "Ahem, yeah guys, 'dem bitches like to be slapped, then dry fucked! They don't like 'dat huggy kissy shit neither. Plus, I always throw two bits on the bed, after a good 5 minute fuck, so that she knows I appreciate her!"

Actually, we fall asleep. It's a Rule.

 

[Safe_Bet]

Okay guys - need some help here! I do not have even the foggiest idea what kind of poetry an under-sexed, straight, Presbyterian guy would write.

An Ode to Vanilla? A Sonnet to wingtips? A Villanelle to his Ford mid-sized sedan? I don't have a clue.

Everything I've tried so far either comes out funny (and I KNOW that guy has no sense of humor) or it involves good sex (which he has never had nor understands.)

Any suggestions?

 

[sassynyc]

Okay guys - need some help here! I do not have even the foggiest idea what kind of poetry an under-sexed, straight, Presbyterian guy would write.

An Ode to Vanilla? A Sonnet to wingtips? A Villanelle to his Ford mid-sized sedan? I don't have a clue.

Everything I've tried so far either comes out funny (and I KNOW that guy has no sense of humor) or it involves good sex (which he has never had nor understands.)

Any suggestions?

Just because this guy is repressed, doesn't mean he never thinks about sex. For that very reason, he is thinking about it. Try writing from that vantage point. He's recognizing all these carnal desires taking place in his body, and he's compelled to resist any such urges in order to stay true to his beliefs.

Oooo, I know! You can make him some uber paragon of virtue, who's essentially a walking erection, because he's so virtuous, he won't even masturbate. He's torn between the carnal and spiritual. That could go a few interesting ways.

Pssst, I know this is just a poem, but this guy is beggin' to be a full blown story. Maybe itroduce him in the poem.....then lay a little more groundwork in the story, before ultimatley shredding his innocence to tattered rags. This boy is beggin to be turned out. Jus' sayin'...

 

[Tzara]

Okay guys - need some help here! I do not have even the foggiest idea what kind of poetry an under-sexed, straight, Presbyterian guy would write....

Any suggestions?

Well, let's see: I'm straight, I'm guy, I'm so undersexed as to be hitting on women at a poem porn site, but I am not, unfortunately, Presbyterian.

There's a number of ways you could take this, though. The Sassy One (who seems underqualified to respond to your question on several points, including being neither undersexed nor guy) makes some good points. Maybe the guy dislikes women. Maybe he's nervous and unsure of himself and is paired with a wife who is more adventurous. Maybe he's incompetent.

Anyway, here's a sample of something. Whether it'll work for you or not, I don't know. I just often work better by example (not that this is good, but it's the kind of thing I might think about):

Penance

The worst befalls me after dark
when her fingers scuttle

under my nightclothes like evil crabs
emerging from these rocks, this sea.

They race toward my center and clear way
for the slime of her whore’s lips,

whose decadent caress enables me.
Then, finally, I can do that thing

and be swiftly done. You owe God,
says Pastor, at least this small devotion.

The pain I see hung in His Face
speaks why I suffer for His Love.​

Good luck on that. Just write something. It'll be fine.

 

[Tzara]

Underneath

I want your plastic thrust
and your breasts’ sway. Your wild look
above my lost terrain

and yet this more—your kiss,
your slim fingers trailed down my cheek.
And, God, their pinch.


.

 

[bluerains]

Am Reminded

Of Why Men Have Breasts....

 

[Safe_Bet]

Underneath

I want your plastic thrust
and your breasts’ sway. Your wild look
above my lost terrain

and yet this more—your kiss,
your slim fingers trailed down my cheek.
And, God, their pinch.


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You are almost there Tz! In fact Amy says you are ready for the advanced course. So watch THIS and you will understand ALL!!!

P.S. God bless you Melissa Ferrick for writing "Drive" = song in the video)

P.P.S. The end of the video is what our house sounds like most nights!

P.P.P.S. Do not play Drive on your ohmibod = it will EXPLODE!

 

[unpredictablebijou]

So I guess my question would be what is my opposite? Gay female, of course. (Maybe. What about transvestite?) But what else? Butch? Femme? Simply uninterested? Wild about it? Indulges in public orgies (that would not be me)?
)

It's me, sweetie. I'm pretty sure I'm your opposite.
Reason we get along so well.

I'm back from the weekend of divine debauchery, and it's going to take me days to catch up in the threads. But this thread really caught my eye. I've experimented with writing as a man for a while, but the idea of a philosophical or sexual opposite would be sorta new. I'm thinking about this a lot.

I dunno, SafeBet. maybe you should issue assignments.

I write in and say, okay, I'm a misanthropic bisexual male trapped in the body of an average toppy white chick, and you say, okay, you have to write as a male Mormon virgin who has submissive leanings, or whatever. Take people's profiles and then give them their assignments.

At least, I'd be open to your suggestions.

hm. maybe I should qualify that.

nah.

bj