BDSM ideas for serial killing?

[Kristow]

Hey everyone I'm currently working on a novel that tells the story of a serial killer through their own perspective; their average life, their introduction to murder and the moral and psychological battle they face when indulging in these practices.

The story contains a lot of BDSM as the killer likes to 'play' with their victims before disposing of them. However, as twisted as I am, I am struggling to think of many ideas for the rape/murder/torture of victims.

The killer is organized, intelligent, nonsocial and hedonistic. They are motivated by power, sexual desires and the thrill of causing other people physical, emotional and psychological pain.

On a further note, they prefer to use knives in their killings, as they have a fetish for blood. They also force the victim to do things such as stab and attack them. I won't go into the reasons why.

I know it sounds incredibly macabre and perverse, but are there any users here who might know where I'm coming from, or have any ideas?

Thanks for reading

 

[YourCaptor]

Hey everyone I'm currently working on a novel that tells the story of a serial killer through their own perspective; their average life, their introduction to murder and the moral and psychological battle they face when indulging in these practices.

The story contains a lot of BDSM as the killer likes to 'play' with their victims before disposing of them. However, as twisted as I am, I am struggling to think of many ideas for the rape/murder/torture of victims.

The killer is organized, intelligent, nonsocial and hedonistic. They are motivated by power, sexual desires and the thrill of causing other people physical, emotional and psychological pain.

On a further note, they prefer to use knives in their killings, as they have a fetish for blood. They also force the victim to do things such as stab and attack them. I won't go into the reasons why.

I know it sounds incredibly macabre and perverse, but are there any users here who might know where I'm coming from, or have any ideas?

Thanks for reading

You could try watching some horror films. Saw, hostel, audition, etc...

 

[CutieMouse]

Hey everyone I'm currently working on a novel that tells the story of a serial killer through their own perspective; their average life, their introduction to murder and the moral and psychological battle they face when indulging in these practices.

The story contains a lot of BDSM as the killer likes to 'play' with their victims before disposing of them. However, as twisted as I am, I am struggling to think of many ideas for the rape/murder/torture of victims.

The killer is organized, intelligent, nonsocial and hedonistic. They are motivated by power, sexual desires and the thrill of causing other people physical, emotional and psychological pain.

On a further note, they prefer to use knives in their killings, as they have a fetish for blood. They also force the victim to do things such as stab and attack them. I won't go into the reasons why.

I know it sounds incredibly macabre and perverse, but are there any users here who might know where I'm coming from, or have any ideas?

Thanks for reading

Maybe I'm dense, but I don't see the connection to BDSM here, sorry.

 

[graceanne]

Cereal Killer

 

[Netzach]

I'm esoteric in bed. I'm not a psychopath. Try an inpatient program.

 

[MechaBlade]

Thanks for reading

Google "guro". Especially if you can find a forum, those guys would love to help out.

Maybe I'm dense, but I don't see the connection to BDSM here, sorry.

Probably the bondage, domination and sadistic parts.

 

[CutieMouse]

Probably the bondage, domination and sadistic parts.

Silly me, I assumed the whole "serial killer" aspect excluded consent; therefore the bondage, "domination" and sadistic parts were simply the acts of a sick mind.

 

[graceanne]

I'd research past serial killers, especially ones who've used BDSM as a way to get chicks. Their's, also, a Jade Black book about a serial killer who contacts women through bdsm chat rooms.

 

[graceanne]

Google "guro". Especially if you can find a forum, those guys would love to help out.


Probably the bondage, domination and sadistic parts.

Hear that sound? That was a can of worms opening.

 

[Netzach]

I don't know if it's willfull stupidity or oooo I'm such a dangerous MF ism when people love to conflate you know, like, murder and actual rape and what they get off on in a reasonable socialized sexuality context. Yeah, we're all really bad ass around here. *yawn* Get in line.

 

[graceanne]

Silly me, I assumed the whole "serial killer" aspect excluded consent; therefore the bondage, "domination" and sadistic parts were simply the acts of a sick mind.

Silly you. tsk tsk What were you THINKING of?

 

[sidneyinheaven]

Just tie the bitch up in front of the T.V and make her watch Fox news. sooner or later Ann Coulter will be on. She's is sublime torture. she can induce suicide. so your killer won't really have to do anything Ann will kill for him by proxy.

Love
sidney

 

[MechaBlade]

Silly me, I assumed the whole "serial killer" aspect excluded consent; therefore the bondage, "domination" and sadistic parts were simply the acts of a sick mind.

Don't worry, it's a common misconception that the BDSM fetish must be consensual. While in practice, it should be consensual, but I think many would agree that the entire point is mimicry of a non-consensual setting. It's kinda like saying sex between strangers isn't "sex" unless they use a condom.

And "sick mind?" Really? Are we using this term on the BDSM board?

Hear that sound? That was a can of worms opening.

I know, I know, but it's important.

 

[EmpressFi]

technically non-consentual bondage and oh.. whipping, etc.. is assault and battery. I know I know you cant legally consent to assault...

 

[graceanne]

Just tie the bitch up in front of the T.V and make her watch Fox news. sooner or later Ann Coulter will be on. She's is sublime torture. she can induce suicide. so your killer won't really have to do anything Ann will kill for him by proxy.

Love
sidney

If you're gonna do that, you could TRUELLY torture her and make her watch soap operas.

Great, now I'm gonna have nightmares.

 

[Netzach]

Don't worry, it's a common misconception that the BDSM fetish must be consensual. While in practice, it should be consensual, but I think many would agree that the entire point is mimicry of a non-consensual setting. It's kinda like saying sex between strangers isn't "sex" unless they use a condom.

And "sick mind?" Really? Are we using this term on the BDSM board?


I know, I know, but it's important.

Here is a wonderful, realistic painting of a doggie. It's very realistic, it gives me warm fuzzies when I look at it and catches me up in all things canine for a time. It doesn't need IAMS treats toys or obedience classes. But you're smart, you know that.

 

[MechaBlade]

Here is a wonderful, realistic painting of a doggie. It's very realistic, it gives me warm fuzzies when I look at it and catches me up in all things canine for a time. It doesn't need IAMS treats toys or obedience classes. But you're smart, you know that.

Ooh, a doggie!

 

[marieR19]

I'm a writer who asked a more-or-less similar question in this forum before, and I got a much better response. Maybe because I'm a semi-regular? I dunno.

Check out my old thread for some of the ideas they gave me:
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=505647


Heather

 

[bridgeburner]

Don't worry, it's a common misconception that the BDSM fetish must be consensual. While in practice, it should be consensual, but I think many would agree that the entire point is mimicry of a non-consensual setting. It's kinda like saying sex between strangers isn't "sex" unless they use a condom.

And "sick mind?" Really? Are we using this term on the BDSM board?


I know, I know, but it's important.

I feel ya, Mechs. I understand the other responses and sympathize with a troll/not troll? tingle, but since I read a LOT of suspense and thriller novels simply because they so often do contain bondage, dominance, sadism, humiliation and rape I'm hoping the guy writes a good book that I can find on the shelf someday.....and keep in my bedside table drawer.

I'm currently pissed off and not continuing to read a book where the killer is seriously into breathplay-resulting-in-eventual-murder because he doesn't sexually assault his victims. That's just a dry-hump tease as far as I'm concerned. the author knows the concept is sexy and provocative but he doesn't want to be accused of trying to titillate anyone with these horrific crimes so he took out the actual sex that is gawdamnit supposed to be there!!!

So now I'm the bigger sicko, I guess, but I'm still not going to finish his damn book. The promise of rape was the only thing that made it worthwhile.


I'm off to write five hundred times "I will not be a little pervert" before I take to my bed and work on an entry for the JOL.

 

[MechaBlade]

I feel ya, Mechs. I understand the other responses and sympathize with a troll/not troll? tingle, but since I read a LOT of suspense and thriller novels simply because they so often do contain bondage, dominance, sadism, humiliation and rape I'm hoping the guy writes a good book that I can find on the shelf someday.....and keep in my bedside table drawer.

I'm currently pissed off and not continuing to read a book where the killer is seriously into breathplay-resulting-in-eventual-murder because he doesn't sexually assault his victims. That's just a dry-hump tease as far as I'm concerned. the author knows the concept is sexy and provocative but he doesn't want to be accused of trying to titillate anyone with these horrific crimes so he took out the actual sex that is gawdamnit supposed to be there!!!

So now I'm the bigger sicko, I guess, but I'm still not going to finish his damn book. The promise of rape was the only thing that made it worthwhile.


I'm off to write five hundred times "I will not be a little pervert" before I take to my bed and work on an entry for the JOL.

I know the feeling. I sometimes watch movies for their rape scenes. Consensual BDSM is hot, but nonconsent is so much hotter.

Happy jilling.

 

[JMohegan]

SSC strictures have no place in my fantasy life - just as the law of gravity in no way applies.

Can't say that I've ever had erotic fantasies about murder, though. I have fantasized about killing someone, but the motive is purely rage based. Using a knife, or any tool, would decrease the satisfaction level considerably. This is a literally tearing him apart with my bare hands kind of thing.

 

[Netzach]

I think there's a mistake here. I am in no way condemning the sick shit of which I partake mentally.

I guess beebs would be one to ask, because she loves this mystery-thriller stuff with long lurid crime scene description.

What chaps my ass is the intimation that *because* I have sex a certain way, I also must know what the people who read those books want to read, I must be a CSI Lady Heather come to life, I must be able to tell you in a convincing literary sense the mechanics of rape and murder, other than, you know the ones I like. Because I have fantasies that I think MOST RED BLOODED HUMANS HAVE but won't discuss, because I'm a BDSM freak I can be the ambassador of whatever it is you need to blame someone else for.

If dude is writing this, for real, he's interested enough to figure it out himself, not jack off to whatever "the perverts" tell him and blame them for what he was thinking about anyway. Right?

Roofies. Large gay men to help me. Plastic bag suffocations. Gun Barrel buggery. I don't really expect to carry it out, so the ideas I have for carrying it out are largely nonsensical.

 

[Hotch]

The BDSM crowd get's their panties in a wad when terms they've adopted are used in connection with nefarious activity, but the fact is, it's the BDSM community that’s taken things out of context. The acronym BDSM does not speak of any activity that implies consent. People have taken an activity that is inherently destructive to humanity and diluted it to the point that it's become a parlor trick for everyone's amusement.

As far as your question, history is inundated with governments, religions and scoundrels who've unleashed untold horrors on their wretched victims. It doesn't take too much digging to get very graphic descriptions of truly sadistic acts. Sadism has been practiced since the dawn of man; it just took the notoriety of 17th century pornographic author to give it a name.

 

[bridgeburner]

I think there's a mistake here. I am in no way condemning the sick shit of which I partake mentally.

I guess beebs would be one to ask, because she loves this mystery-thriller stuff with long lurid crime scene description.

What chaps my ass is the intimation that *because* I have sex a certain way, I also must know what the people who read those books want to read, I must be a CSI Lady Heather come to life, I must be able to tell you in a convincing literary sense the mechanics of rape and murder, other than, you know the ones I like. Because I have fantasies that I think MOST RED BLOODED HUMANS HAVE but won't discuss, because I'm a BDSM freak I can be the ambassador of whatever it is you need to blame someone else for.

If dude is writing this, for real, he's interested enough to figure it out himself, not jack off to whatever "the perverts" tell him and blame them for what he was thinking about anyway. Right?

Roofies. Large gay men to help me. Plastic bag suffocations. Gun Barrel buggery. I don't really expect to carry it out, so the ideas I have for carrying it out are largely nonsensical.

Nah, I gotcha, and I agree.

As I said my troll sense was tingling a bit mainly because his question sounded sort of dumb. If he meant that his killer was a BDSM participant who moved from consentual acts to non-consentual acts and murder, then he should have been more clear. That's an interesting idea to explore. If he's looking to write about a killer and appeal to specific kinks about which he needs information, then that's understandable. If all he wants is torture ideas, then Hotch has pointed out that there's no shortage of those and the vast majority of them are to be found outside of BDSM.

On to the book question:

I'm not a fan of gruesome torture and murder. I prefer it when the victims live and aren't too fucked up physically. Generally in these kinds of stories what you get is mostly dead victims and then the one that gets saved at the last minute. I can speculate about several reasons for this, but the easiest one is that the most common villain is a serial killer and you can't have one without a few dead bodies.

The reason I read so many of these books that give me so much of what I don't want is because they are also giving me something that I DO want that I have a hard time finding anywhere else. Anyone who has taken a stroll through the non-consent stories here --- or anywhere, really --- can tell you that what generally happens is a ravishing or a rape that turns into a party for all involved. The victim cums her brains out and then wants to swallow oceans of sperm from strangers.

If I wanted to read about happy women, happily sucking strange dick and loving it I wouldn't be looking for stories in the non-consent categorey.

I'm actually pretty bothered by the massive amount of "flip-flop" that happens in most non-consent stories. It's an awful lot like blaming the victim. We want to get off on rape, but then we get shy and don't want to be thought of as bad-guys so we twist the scenario around so the chick actually enjoys it.

So, to get my fix I have to put up with murder and the occasional icky torture.


The old-style romance novels had it right --- heroine gets raped by creepy guy(s) and hates it and all the readers know it's supposed to be sexy in a totally unacceptable, secret way. You're allowed your wide-on over it because there's an actual romantic relationship that the heroine wins at the end of her trials and tribulations and overcoming rape is just part of the package.

 

[Netzach]

The acronym BDSM does not speak of any activity that implies consent.

Actually it does. It's a purely contemporary and specific construct, out of the postwar culture of the fifties, the acronym didn't *exist* before people were theorizing that some people liked violence done to them in specific contexts. It would have been more of a continuous straight line back to the turn of the century, but Hitler did a good job on that front and sexual openness in the west would have to take a long break.

All the rest of it is quite old, de Sade is an interesting footnote but he's about as relevant to me personally now and today as St. Augustine. Sort of but not really.