What is the Obsession With Cumming Inside the Girl?

[coloradosouthernboy]

Don't get me wrong; I'm completely hetero. It's just that in 90% of the stories I read here (especially incest/taboo), the guy cums inside the girl, almost always without protection. Now I understand these stories are mostly fantasies (mine aren't, however), but a little realism goes a LONG way. If your relationship with someone has progressed to the point where you no longer wear a condom, and unless you're trying to have a kid, then why cum inside her? I know with every long-term relationship I've had (including the one with my sister) I've ALWAYS pulled out if we're no longer using condoms, and probably about 75% of the amateur porn I've seen on the web has the guy pulling out, so I know most couples do it that way.

It's mostly with the incest stories that I have a problem with it; I mean, if you're fucking your sister, your female cousin, your aunt, or especially your mom, the LAST thing you should be doing is cumming inside her, right? With all the societal taboos against incest I think the willing female partner wouldn't allow you to even THINK about not pulling out.

It just makes the story more believable; isn't believability (especially in incest stories) the #1 factor in whether or not it gets you off? My favorite author here is "epiphany65;" he's my favorite because every single sex scene in his stories ends with the guy cumming ON, not IN, the girl, whether by her hand or his.

I want to continue writing more about my sister's and I's relationship, but I feel like an outsider in the way our sex scenes end.

Am I being too trivial?

 

[Carnevil9]

What planet are you from? No, really?

What does the fact that 75% of amateur porn does things one way have ANYTHING to do with what real people do? Pretty much nothing, I would imagine.

Why come inside her? Well, umm, it feels good, maybe? To both of you?

Granted, in real life, you might worry about knocking up your aunt or your grandmother, but in a freaking story? Knock yourself out! This is the perfect venue to not worry about such minutia.

In short, yes, you are being too trivial, in my humble opinion. Stories should be fun, first of all. Realistic, maybe tenth, at best.

 

[sr71plt]

Yes, you're being too trivial.

I'm sure the story file here is large enough to satisfy your fantasies as well as your sense of the degree of reality needed--and, if not, you can write your own.

So, to be straightforward, where do you get off telling other readers what their fantasies "should" be?

 

[Pure]

nice posting csb,

the stereotypes of porn writing are a valuable topic for discussion.

i'm not entirely happy with the example you picked, of incest. surely disregard for pregnancy is a feature of much of porn writing, and many movies.

further, "realism" is a valid concern, but i'd be happy if you'd called for the freeing up of fantasy, beyond the boring blowjobs, comings inside, 'facials' and so on.

but the limitations of non intercourse sex [in its representations in porn], are patent. leaving aside blow jobs, the only 'respectable' form of outercourse in pictorial porn is the tit fuck. i've *never* seen a lit story in which, for example, the man rubs off between and at the top of the woman's thighs.
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added note to sr71. i don't think the poster is calling for restriciton of fantasy. i think his point is best couched in terms of the *limitations*, e.g. stereotypes, of porn writing, and thus, imagination.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

If your fantasies involving your sister means you wear a condom before fucking her, then you wear a condom in your fantasies.

If your fantasies involving your sister means you busting a hot, creamy load of your seed deep inside her tight, wet depths, then....I guess you DON'T wear one in your fantasies.

Verity and fantasy are not analogous. If we could get in reality safely what we could get in fantasy, why would we need fantasy? If you are writing the Great American Novella featuring sex scenes, that's one thing. If you are writing erotica, well...hey...

Stop over analyzing this and enjoy the hard-on Mama Nature is giving you when you read what's being done naturally. Since everyone fucking in the stories here must be of age, consider that every woman in the stories is on birth control or using the rhythm method. Which isn't that far from the reality of human beings, to be honest. When you write your own stories, then you give your version. If it's hotly written, then condom use won't be an issue.

And try not to make comparisons to porn with the "pulling out" thing. They do that so you can see the money shot, not because they're trying to be "safe." The girls are on birth control and they'd be idiots not to be. It's a different pay scale for internal cumshots, is all. Nine times out of ten, that motherfucker fucking the actress doesn't WANT to pull out deep down inside his id and I've seen porns where he sticks it back in after cumming halfway on her belly cuz he wants to nutt inside her shit and when she's in the heat she's gonna ride with him until the end even though half his load is on her stomach for the porn's sake. THAT'S reality for you.

 

[DeeZire]

If you're concerned about reality, go ahead and have the guy cum inside her, but then show the argument about who's going to sleep in the wet spot.

Speaking of a little too much reality, in the latest DVD season of Weeds, the gal gets screwed on the guy's desk at work. In the next scene, she's grabbing some kleenex and cleaning up the mess under her dress. I had never, ever seen that before, other than in real life. I thought it was extremely cool.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Real life is not a porn movie...the only reason they have the guy pull out before cuming is to show that he really did have an orgasm, at least that's the way it started out...getting the cum shot.

In real life there is no need to pull out, unless your partner is not on any kind of birth control and you are trying to avoid pregnancy.

And the argument about the wet spot is valid. And who goes to the bathroom to get the washcloth to clean up.

Real life is much more complex than a porn movie or story.

Write what you want, reality is a bitch.

 

[emap]

I am going to say something mean just because well I figure somebody should and I feel like being mean at the moment.

If you are sleeping with your sister and she is not on birth control, what kind of completely brain dead person, sister and brother both, is going to say let's not wear condoms but pull out instead. The rythm method does not work forever, pulling out does not work forever.

So anyway, I really enjoy letting him finish in me, I don't like facials, seeing or being done, well never tried but I know I hate watching it. I always think dang look at all that wasted sperm. Couples who do not wear condoms, don't pull out, they are either on another form of birth control, one or both cannot have kids because of surgery or born that way, or they are trying to have kids. If condoms are the form of protection they use, I don't think they will pull out whip it off and shoot all over her either. That stuff is found in porn, not terribly often a couple will do that. If say he hired her for sex that would happen because he likes to do that and can't at home. Otherwise there is no pulling out, facials or on her chest/stomach.

I mean think about it this way, your thinking porn represents society in bed? Really, do guys pay their wife/girlfriend/one night stand for sex and does she do the same thing? Do we all have some guy standing near the bed saying OK great now switch to doggy style, now standing doggy, get on your knees and suck your juices off him then sit on him and bounce, slow at first then fast as you can.

No seriously, cause if that is a representative of normal society, I am so missing out, and honestly I'm rather glad for it.

 

[keeblercrumb]

Rocket Man

What planet are you from? No, really?

What does the fact that 75% of amateur porn does things one way have ANYTHING to do with what real people do? Pretty much nothing, I would imagine.

Why come inside her? Well, umm, it feels good, maybe? To both of you?

Granted, in real life, you might worry about knocking up your aunt or your grandmother, but in a freaking story? Knock yourself out! This is the perfect venue to not worry about such minutia.

In short, yes, you are being too trivial, in my humble opinion. Stories should be fun, first of all. Realistic, maybe tenth, at best.

I am always shocked when I agree with a post of yours... setting aside the gratuitous insult you always seem to infest your posts with...

Absent an overriding concern for pregnancy, I have no idea what percent of people who do not use condoms who "pull out"... but suspect that it is pretty low. I mean... why? The porn cited by csb is certainly for cinema graphic purposes... not because it feels good; which I certainly think cuming in a woman does!

I happen to prefer "realistic" erotic stories... so the use of condoms does not bother me... (I did get 1 bombed for using a condom in a story.... go figure!) per se, nor does pulling out if someone has a concern for preventing pregnancy (regardless of the incestural nature of the sex)in the context of some story line.

It is clear from the stories hereabout, some people see the act or possible act of pregnancy with incest is a “turn-on” for them, in of itself. I do not pretend to understand this nor do I care to understand my own fetishes….. this is for fun, after all.

So.... When I read about a guy cuming inside a woman, I assume either the couple does not care one way or the other about pregnancy or the woman is using birth control.

But csb has me curious.... absent oral sex related cums, do people really just "pull out" because of some reason unrelated to "porn" visuals? It's okay with me... just never knew it happened...

-KC

 

[Guest]

I hate it in the porn flicks when the guy pulls out only to jack off onto her back.

Pointless and kind of a mood spoiler, actually.

And sweetie, there is a word for what they call those people who use the pull out method as a form of birth control.

Parents.

 

[keeblercrumb]

Rocket Man

I hate it in the porn flicks when the guy pulls out only to jack off onto her back.

Pointless and kind of a mood spoiler, actually.

And sweetie, there is a word for what they call those people who use the pull out method as a form of birth control.

Parents.

It is fortunate I have finished drinking coffee and have not begun drinking beer yet....

I would have spewed it....

Parents indeed. Although to provide equal opportunity for other forms of birth control, my wife's IUD came out hours before my daughter. It was one of those 97% effective things... and apparently we did it 98 times....

-KC

 

[Guest]

It is fortunate I have finished drinking coffee and have not begun drinking beer yet....

I would have spewed it....

Parents indeed. Although to provide equal opportunity for other forms of birth control, my wife's IUD came out hours before my daughter. It was one of those 97% effective things... and apparently we did it 98 times....

-KC

As long as they were good.

 

[keeblercrumb]

Rocket Man

As long as they were good.

Well, I didn't pull out, if that is what you mean.



-KC

 

[Guest]

Well, I didn't pull out, if that is what you mean.



-KC

Well, good.

You know, for me personally, it is most erotic when he's shoving forward, roughly, those last - few - hard - strokes, losing control, and then pushing inside while pulling me back to hold while he shudders . . .

I can't imagine at the height of arousal to pull out and meekly jack off.

Bleah.

 

[keeblercrumb]

Rocket Man

Well, good.

You know, for me personally, it is most erotic when he's shoving forward, roughly, those last - few - hard - strokes, losing control, and then pushing inside while pulling me back to hold while he shudders . . .

I can't imagine at the height of arousal to pull out and meekly jack off.

Bleah.

Well... there is not reason to be absolute about all this..... I had one friend who was absolutely put out if she could not swallow it... and another if I did not cum on her breasts..(I think someone had told her it was good for them somehow.... )....

But I have made note of your desires for the next Litogether...

("Cum in Sarrahh.... " Got it!)



-KC

 

[Elianna]

Well, good.

You know, for me personally, it is most erotic when he's shoving forward, roughly, those last - few - hard - strokes, losing control, and then pushing inside while pulling me back to hold while he shudders . . .

EXACTLY. That is unbelievablely HOT!

I'd feel cheated if he pulled out, it's erotic, it feels good. I'm not a guy, but, it sounds like it's good for him, too.

 

[rgraham666]

EXACTLY. That is unbelievablely HOT!

I'd feel cheated if he pulled out, it's erotic, it feels good. I'm not a guy, but, it sounds like it's good for him, too.

It is.

I absolutely loathe the 'money shot' in porn. When you go off you're supposed to be inside her. Otherwise you're just jacking off.

 

[cloudy]

You know, for me personally, it is most erotic when he's shoving forward, roughly, those last - few - hard - strokes, losing control, and then pushing inside while pulling me back to hold while he shudders . . .

amen, sister.

 

[off2bed]

It's fiction. F I C T I O N. It's not a how-to or a documentary.

Why cum inside the vagina? Why not?

God forbid someone should write a fictional story with someone who doesn't wear seatbelts in the car

 

[TE999]

Am I being too trivial?

In a word: Extremely.

First, any resemblance between filmed/taped porn doesn't extend far beyond inserting Tab A into Slot B (or Hole A, but I digress). Filmed porn is staged. Duh.

Secondly, as stated earlier we're in sexual fantasyland here. Readers don't want money shots, they want a guy blowing his wad inside and the gal loving it. I had a woman tell me once she just liked a guy out of his mind fucking her and coming hard, if she got off too it was even better.

Thirdly, the readers don't want real life in their stories, they deal with that 24/7/365. They want hawt, sweaty, pounding sex. Which 95% of them don't get on a regular basis, male or female. That's why they read our stories. I have had nitpicky comments about sexual excesses in my stories, I just laugh.

Good luck with your writing or your diary or whatever. Just don't take things too seriously when writing erotica. It'll bore the readers.

 

[DrHappy]

If your relationship with someone has progressed to the point where you no longer wear a condom, and unless you're trying to have a kid, then why cum inside her?

Responsible couples who progress to the point where they are no longer wearing a condom will be using some over form of birth control. The "withdrawal method" has typical failure rate of 27%. I hope that you aren't relying on withdrawal to avoid pregnancy.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

It's fiction. F I C T I O N. It's not a how-to or a documentary.

Why cum inside the vagina? Why not?

God forbid someone should write a fictional story with someone who doesn't wear seatbelts in the car

Or God forbid Superman's sperm doesn't rip straight through his condom with the force of Krypton if he fucks Lois Lane.

Or God forbid the Hulk's penis doesn't rip through his purple pants the same way the lower half of his legs does all the time if he gets an erection (something they did touch upon in the movie)

Reality. Killing fantasy for everyone since....well, since FOREVER!

 

[3113]

But csb has me curious.... absent oral sex related cums, do people really just "pull out" because of some reason unrelated to "porn" visuals?

Double protection, as you pointed out with your wife's IUD. Birth Control pills are very effective, but some other methods (which women who can't be on BC may use) are less effective. You up the odds of not getting preggers.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Don't get me wrong; I'm completely hetero. It's just that in 90% of the stories I read here (especially incest/taboo), the guy cums inside the girl, almost always without protection. Now I understand these stories are mostly fantasies (mine aren't, however), but a little realism goes a LONG way. If your relationship with someone has progressed to the point where you no longer wear a condom, and unless you're trying to have a kid, then why cum inside her? I know with every long-term relationship I've had (including the one with my sister) I've ALWAYS pulled out if we're no longer using condoms, and probably about 75% of the amateur porn I've seen on the web has the guy pulling out, so I know most couples do it that way.

It's mostly with the incest stories that I have a problem with it; I mean, if you're fucking your sister, your female cousin, your aunt, or especially your mom, the LAST thing you should be doing is cumming inside her, right? With all the societal taboos against incest I think the willing female partner wouldn't allow you to even THINK about not pulling out.

It just makes the story more believable; isn't believability (especially in incest stories) the #1 factor in whether or not it gets you off? My favorite author here is "epiphany65;" he's my favorite because every single sex scene in his stories ends with the guy cumming ON, not IN, the girl, whether by her hand or his.

I want to continue writing more about my sister's and I's relationship, but I feel like an outsider in the way our sex scenes end.

Am I being too trivial?

No, I don't, in fact think it's too trivial. I'd say that half of the stories here are more or less crap-- probably in the incest/taboo section, the ratio is much higher. That section gets away with bad writing because the erotic trigger is so intense-- I know that if a crap story pushes my buttons strongly enough, I can ignore the bad writing.

If you care about writing believable and responsible endings to your sex scenes, more power to you, I say!

Why sex ends with cuming inside? Because it's expected, because a lot of men are obsessed with it, because it's easier to write, because they can't imagine that anything else will be considered sexy. (I've noticed as well, that some of the incest writers seem to need the pregnancy as part of their fetish.) Because she's on the pill and isn't going to get pregnant.

It takes some effort to write differently, but you can write condoms, wetspots, finishing by hand and make these things intensely erotic. I like her sliding the condom over his dick. I like the guy taking two strokes and spasming, while she's still ringing like a bell. Rubbing his cum into her skin can be a very loving act. I love arguments about the wet spot during the afterglow.

 

[impressive]

I hate it in the porn flicks when the guy pulls out only to jack off onto her back.

Pointless and kind of a mood spoiler, actually.

Oh, I disagree.

Every time? Sure. But on occasion?