Obama's speech on race

The McGovernization of Obama [Victor Davis Hanson]


I still believe that by August, Obama, the half-term rookie Senator, will have become the second George McGovern. Cf. his latest declaration to the Marin County faithful (coming on the heels of the crazy anti-Semitic rant of Rev. Eric Lee, a prominent LA Obama supporter):

"You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them," Obama said. "And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Let us count the ways that this is a disastrous declaration:

1. “Nothing’s replaced them”? As someone who lives in a small rural town that saw a lot of closed plants and farm depression in the 1980s, a lot has “replaced them”—explaining why for much of the last decade the national unemployment rate has been below 5%.

2. “They”. This evokes Michelle’s similar “they” (as in the “they” who raised the proverbial bar on the Obamas), and likewise suggests both hostility and a certain us/they contempt for a slice of America that the Obamas apparently know very little about—but for the first time in their lives are rapidly discovering.

3. “They cling to guns or religion”. This is revealing for two reasons: one, Obama has been trying to finesse his position on guns to appeal precisely to gun owners and thus we start to see that his repositioning is cynical to the core; two, “cling to religion?” No rural Pennsylvanian clings to religion more than Obama himself, who for 20 years sat silent in the pews, while a hate-spewing minister damned his country and most everyone else. The question is not why Pennsylvanians “cling to their religion”, but why do the Obamas still cling to the Trinity Church that seems far more extreme than anything I’ve seen in rural America.

4. “antipathy to people who aren't like them”—as in the case of Rev. Wright’s views of Jews, whites, Italians, or Americans in general? In short, Obama accuses rural Pennsylvanians of a racism that they haven’t expressed while contextualizing the racism that his own Rev. Wright has.

5. “Anti-immigrant sentiment”? As in wishing that drivers’ licenses are not issued to those here illegally, or that we insist that those who immigrate to the U.S. do so legally?

6. The worst hypocrisy, of course, is Obama’s charge that these small towns in Pennsylvania express “anti-trade sentiment.” It was not George Bush or John McCain, but Barack Obama himself who tried to salvage Ohio by demagoguing NAFTA and opposing a free-trade agreement with Columbia. His entire campaign is predicated on showing more anti-trade sentiment that the Clintons.

7. Let me get this straight: Obama goes to the Bay Area to an affluent liberal enclave to give a condescending take on the supposed poor fools that he is currently trying to court. This is not just hypocritical, but abjectly stupid. All of Pennsylvania surely is asking today what is so hip and sophisticated about the Trinity Church and Rev. Wright?

So here we have the essential Obama, a walking paradox between the postmodern hip-Ivy-Leaguer who sneers at middle-class America’s supposed prejudices and parochialism, while at the same time courting an anti-Enlightenment, prejudicial demagogue like Jeremiah Wright. For free trade or anti-free trade? For 2nd-amendment rights or not? Post-religious or pious and fundamentalist? For public campaign financing or not? A uniter of various groups or someone who sees America in terms of “they”? Straight-talking or someone who evokes "context" to explain away the inexplicable?


Again, we will see more and more of these condescending statements of the Michelle Obama strain, more and more of Revs. Wright, Meeks, Lee and others peddlers of division like them, and more and more clues to a long hostility to Israel—in what will eventually become the most disastrous chapter in recent Democratic history.

And pundits keep wondering why Hillary won't give up?
 
Bam Is Dead!

JENNIFER RUBIN SAYS THE PRESS CAN'T SAVE OBAMA FROM HIMSELF:


Much has been said about (and several Saturday Night Live skits have lampooned) the media’s infatuation with Barack Obama. But sometimes a gaffe is so revealing and so encapsulates a candidate’s underlying fault lines (”I actually did vote for the $87M before I voted against it.”) that a sympathetic media can’t spin it away.


I think that's right. And Jonathan Martin writes: "This story may only gain steam in the days ahead. . . . Obama's comments play directly into an already-established narrative about his candidacy. "

This seems to be the story line: "A political tempest over Barack Obama's comments about bitter voters in small towns has given rival Hillary Rodham Clinton a new opening to court working class Democrats 10 days before Pennsylvanians hold a primary that she must win to keep her presidential campaign alive."

Though the "bitter" bit is the least of it. Obama's self-contradiction on trade, guns, and religion is really the more damning part. And Taylor Marsh comments: "I'd say Obama made an amateur slip of the tongue, however, something about this statement, the glib nature of it combined with its specificity, makes me believe he actually feels this way."
 
Bam Is Dead!

The gospel according to Barack

Barack Obama's San Francisco remarks drip with contempt for the concerns of the average American. According to Obama, the beliefs and concerns of the average (small-town, Rustbelt) American are symptoms of embitterment and psychic damage. For this average American, even religion is a function of embitterment and false consciousness. Obama and his fellow congregants in the church of Jeremiah Wright have "that true religion." In small-town Pennsylvania they have something that needs Obama's ministrations. Obama exudes arrogance and disdain.

This past February, Michelle Obama delivered a speech at a hastily assembled UCLA rally. It is a remakable document to which only Hugh Hewitt devoted the attention it deserved. Michelle Obama presented her husband as the only candidate who stood to cure our sick souls. Her claims on his behalf only made express the implications of his own more soothing rhetoric.

In the wake of Barack Obama's remarks to the San Francisco Democrats last Sunday, Michelle Obama's preaching of the gospel according to Barack is revelatory:

Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your division. That you come out of your isolation. That you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual; uninvolved, uninformed.


We can only pray that our fellow Americans find the gospel according to Barack Obama to be too good for us.
 
Smell that?

That's conservative fear and desperation. The stench of conservative hopes hung on the pariah turned "Hero".
 
Chicken Comes Home to Roost... Jeremiah Wright Blasts Media, FOX News, America, O'Reilly, Hannity, Thomas Jefferson, Founding Fathers...

The chicken came back home to roost...

The unrepentant Jeremiah Wright gave another rousing sermon Saturday in Chicago.

He blasted the Founding Fathers and called Thomas Jefferson a pedophile.

Rev. Jeremiah Wright criticized political pundits and referred to Fox News as 'Fix News' while paying tribute to R. Eugene Pincham. (John J. Kim/Sun-Times)

Barack Obama's pastor, mentor and father figure, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright lashed out at Fox News, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, America, the Founding Fathers, Thomas Jefferson... in his first public appearance since his hate-speech went public last month.

The congregation cheered wildly during his funeral

The Chicago Sun-Times reported:

The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., former pastor of Barack Obama’s Trinity United Church of Christ, has kept a low profile since some of his sermons landed him in the middle of a political firestorm.

But on Saturday Wright made his first extensive public remarks since the controversy began as he paid tribute to his friend, former appellate judge R. Eugene Pincham, a congregant at Trinity since 1987.

While discussing “seven lessons the judge taught me,” Wright never mentioned church member Obama, who has rejected some of Wright’s comments, which included denunciations of America for its mistreatment of black people and claims that America’s promotion of terrorism abroad helped prompt the 9/11 attacks. But Wright did take the opportunity to bash some of the critics of his controversial statements, including Fox News personalities Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity.

And while Wright made no mention of terrorism, he did revisit the topic of America’s mistreatment of blacks, saying America’s founding fathers “planted slavery and white supremacy in the DNA of this republic,” and adding that Thomas Jefferson wrote, “ ‘God would punish America for the sin of slavery.’ I guess that makes Thomas Jefferson unpatriotic,” he said to the cheers of the congregation.

Escalating into full-preaching mode, Wright thundered, “Fox News can’t understand that. [Bill] O’Reilly will never get that. Sean Hannity’s stupid fantasy will keep him forever stuck on stupid when it comes to comprehending how you can love a brother who does not believe what you believe. [Pincham’s] faith was a faith in a God who loved the whole world not just one country or one creed.”

At that point, congregants nearly drowned Wright out with a booming standing ovation.

Delivering a eulogy for a late congregant of Trinity United Church of Christ — former appellate judge R. Eugene Pincham — Barack Obama’s former pastor said America’s mistreatment of blacks is the result of the founding fathers, who “planted slavery and white supremacy in the DNA of this republic.”

FOX News has this on the latest Wright tirade:


First reported by The Chicago Sun Times, Wright said that Thomas Jefferson, who partook in “pedophilia,” would also be considered unpatriotic these days because he wrote, “God would punish America for the sin of slavery.” He also quoted Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who said that the U.S. has a “congenital birth defect.”

Speaking of the seven lessons Pincham taught him, Wright said the judge’s faith “was not the jingoistic, chauvinistic ‘you’re either with us or against us’ demonizing kind of faith.”

“FOX News can’t understand that,” Wright said to rousing cheers and applause. “[Bill] O’Reilly will never get that. Sean Hannity’s stupid fantasy will keep him forever stuck on stupid when it comes to comprehending how you can love a brother who does not believe what you believe. [Pincham’s] faith was a faith in a God who loved the whole world not just one country or one creed

Keep talking Reverend... Keep talking.
 
Picture of Senator Barack Obama Failing to Salute the Flag While Others on a Platform, Including Senator Hillary Clinton, are Saluting-Truth!


Summary of the eRumor:
A picture of Senator Barack Obama (below), Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico, Senator Hillary Clinton, and one other person all on a platform and backed by an American flag. The eRumor says that the national anthem was being played at the time and that all but Senator Obama saluted.


The Truth:
The picture is authentic. It was published in Time magazine and was taken 9/16/07 at an event in Indianola, Iowa where six Democratic presidential candidates appeared. It was Iowa Senator Tom Harkin's annual "meat and greet." The fourth person in the picture is Senator Harkin's wife, Ruth. Not seen in the picture are three other candidates who were standing out of view on the right side of the platform, Senator Chris Dodd, Senator John Edwards, Senator Joe Biden.

At question is what was going on with Senator Obama? His critics are circulating the picture and saying that he is not respecting the flag or the national anthem, especially since the protocol, according to the United States Flag code, is that civilians should have their right hands over their hearts and that they should be facing the flag. His supporters are saying that this little lapse should not be held against him since there have been plenty of other events at which he has saluted the flag---so it did not mean that he would, in principle, avoid doing it.

Some supporters have suggested that perhaps the picture does not tell the whole story and that he may have raised his hand shortly after it was taken.

An ABC News video, however, shows that Senator Obama did not salute at any time during the anthem and that everybody else on the platform did.

A spokesperson for the Senator told Fox News that it was ridiculous to suggest that Obama was making any kind of a statement and that sometimes "he does and sometimes he doesn't place his hand over his heart during the national anthem."
 
Media outlets have essentially ignored the main problem with Obama's remarks -- his lazy assertion that people in small towns are racist.
 
Media outlets have essentially ignored the main problem with Obama's remarks -- his lazy assertion that people in small towns are racist.

More reading into the comments far more than was actually said.

The manic yelping is reaching a crescendo.
Has McSell-out decided yet who will be his VP when he loses the election?
 
More reading into the comments far more than was actually said.

The manic yelping is reaching a crescendo.
Has McSell-out decided yet who will be his VP when he loses the election?

Really? Then he should have never have had to apologize, or explain to us how he used 'poor English.' Ya think?

He be in 'preachin' mode son. He truly spoke his mind there. :)

He should stick to his main theme. "Change is good, because change is the future. And we can't be stuck in the past becuase that isn't change. Change is different and it's never boring. So let's all change because 'not' change is all in the past, and that's so yesterday. Ya know?"

To bad the poor bastard that takes that office will have to deal with today.

Ishmael
 
Really? Then he should have never have had to apologize, or explain to us how he used 'poor English.' Ya think?

He be in 'preachin' mode son. He truly spoke his mind there. :)

He should stick to his main theme. "Change is good, because change is the future. And we can't be stuck in the past becuase that isn't change. Change is different and it's never boring. So let's all change because 'not' change is all in the past, and that's so yesterday. Ya know?"

To bad the poor bastard that takes that office will have to deal with today.

Ishmael

Whoever wins the office will have their hands full cleaning up Dubya's mess, that's for damned sure.

It was very clear what was meant by that speech, just as it's very clear the way his words have been twisted and redefined by those that are so damned scared they're going through depends left and right.

Present company included of course.
 
Whoever wins the office will have their hands full cleaning up Dubya's mess, that's for damned sure.

It was very clear what was meant by that speech, just as it's very clear the way his words have been twisted and redefined by those that are so damned scared they're going through depends left and right.

Present company included of course.

Well, so much for the future then. Hard to refurbish when you're cleaning the bathroom.

Ishmael
 
Well, so much for the future then. Hard to refurbish when you're cleaning the bathroom.

Ishmael
After 8 years of incompetence it's going to take the better part of one term to get things moving in the right direction. You don't stop remodeling because there's a chip in the counter. Multi-task.

This entire thread all boils down to this:

Can you believe that Barack Obama said poor, bitter voters in small towns are poor and bitter? That since neither party has done anything to help their economic situation they vote based on God (abortion), Guns (who they think will take them away), and Anti-immigrant or anti-trade sentiment (the reason they believe their jobs are gone).

Hillary and the Republicans will not tolerate this kind of talk. We don't mention the working poor, remember? It makes rich people uncomfortable.
The working poor are happy, happy people. :rolleyes:
 
After 8 years of incompetence it's going to take the better part of one term to get things moving in the right direction. You don't stop remodeling because there's a chip in the counter. Multi-task.

This entire thread all boils down to this:

Can you believe that Barack Obama said poor, bitter voters in small towns are poor and bitter? That since neither party has done anything to help their economic situation they vote based on God (abortion), Guns (who they think will take them away), and Anti-immigrant or anti-trade sentiment (the reason they believe their jobs are gone).

Hillary and the Republicans will not tolerate this kind of talk. We don't mention the working poor, remember? It makes rich people uncomfortable.
The working poor are happy, happy people. :rolleyes:

Just need a new 'Daddy' huh little boy?

Ishmael
 
Now there's classic Ishmael. No rebuttal so bring on the personal insults eh?

Pitiful, that's what you are.

There's no rebuttal to make little boy. You think that a new president is going to change your life and that of the nation and neither could be further from the truth.

For some years now you've accused me of blowing smoke up your ass while you're the one with the tube in your mouth and exhaling.

You're so partison that you're really out of touch with reality. You're backing yourself into a marginalized corner right along with PPman, REDWAVE, BB and sean. You can't see the forest for the trees.

Describe the America of your dreams UD. Let us know YOUR vision.

Ishmael
 
The simple fact is that the economic policies of the Federal government, every single administration from Reagan onward, has caused or ignored the economic problems across the manufacturing sectors in PA and many other industrial regions across the US.

So yes indeed, the Federal government needs to fix it. They broke it with idiotic trade policy and ever increasing exportation of manufacturing jobs. In return for the lost jobs the displaced workers received platitudes and promises never fulfilled.

“Of course they’re bitter. Of course they’re frustrated. You would be, too—in fact, many of you are,” Obama said. "And so people don’t vote on economic issues, because they don’t expect anybody’s going to help them. People are voting on issues like guns, are they going to have the right to bear arms. They vote on issues like gay marriage. They take refuge in their faith and their community and their families and the things they can count on. But they don’t believe they can count on Washington.”
 
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There's no rebuttal to make little boy. You think that a new president is going to change your life and that of the nation and neither could be further from the truth.

For some years now you've accused me of blowing smoke up your ass while you're the one with the tube in your mouth and exhaling.

You're so partison that you're really out of touch with reality. You're backing yourself into a marginalized corner right along with PPman, REDWAVE, BB and sean. You can't see the forest for the trees.

Describe the America of your dreams UD. Let us know YOUR vision.

Ishmael

Still nothing but personal insults eh?

It's so easy to see when you've reached your limits. That's when the "little boy", "son", "sparky".. and the insulting of intelligence starts.

You accuse someone else of partisanship? No shit? Really? Thanks Mr. Pot.

Damn straight I'm partisan, I have an opinion.. I've picked my side based on my personal convictions and cast my vote for the person I think will do what I want them to do and what I think is best for my country, my family, and myself. Just like everyone else.
 
The simple fact is that the economic policies of the Federal government, every single administration from Reagan onward, has caused or ignored the economic problems across the manufacturing sectors in PA and many other industrial regions across the US.

So yes indeed, the Federal government needs to fix it. They broke it with idiotic trade policy and ever increasing exportation of manufacturing jobs. In return for the lost jobs the dosplaced workers received platitudes and promises never fulfilled.

“Of course they’re bitter. Of course they’re frustrated. You would be, too—in fact, many of you are,” Obama said. "And so people don’t vote on economic issues, because they don’t expect anybody’s going to help them. People are voting on issues like guns, are they going to have the right to bear arms. They vote on issues like gay marriage. They take refuge in their faith and their community and their families and the things they can count on. But they don’t believe they can count on Washington.”

The fact is that tax policy and deficit spending has guided every adminsitration since, and including FDR. It is a fact that congress was the largest contributor to the 'great depression' and that FDR's policies didn't do shit to pull us out. Keynesian economics bit the dust years ago, thoroughly disredited.

Yet, here we are today with a Republican president trying to practice Keynsian economics and a democrat congress saying, "It's not enough." I guess it'll work this time if only we spend enough money.

It's kinda like sending you kid to a private school, and when told that the brat is failing, well, you just send it off to a more expensive school. And it it's still failing, just pay more money. Eventually you'll find that monetary threshhold where the kid will pass. He/she/it won't know a Gad damn thing, but they'll have that diploma. After all, that's what you paid for, and the baby sitting.

It's a mind set UD. "If only we spend enough money." You belive that your little brat will be oh so much smarter if only you can coerce others, under the rule of law, to spend more. You could have done so much more, so much cheaper, if you'd of only cared about your own family instead of demanding that others care. But you didn't, you couldn't take the time.

"But we couldn't do that. We both have to work to make ends meet."

Fair enough UD. I suppose that's because the tax rates are so low? :) Well now sparky, let's raise those taxes a little higher and see how much time you and the mrs have.

"I made $50 dollars today tax free!!!!!!!"

"I'm cummingggggggggggggggg"

You think if you work hard enough, long enough, you're going to get something for free. You won't.

You've done nothing with your life and 60 years from now no one will know that you lived at all. Except for the taxes you think are worth passing on.

Ishmael


Who's to know UD? Perhaps if you'd of cared others around you would have been inspired by your example. But you didn't care, and you'll never care. Another child that's grown old
 
The fact is that tax policy and deficit spending has guided every adminsitration since, and including FDR. It is a fact that congress was the largest contributor to the 'great depression' and that FDR's policies didn't do shit to pull us out. Keynesian economics bit the dust years ago, thoroughly disredited.

Yet, here we are today with a Republican president trying to practice Keynsian economics and a democrat congress saying, "It's not enough." I guess it'll work this time if only we spend enough money.

It's kinda like sending you kid to a private school, and when told that the brat is failing, well, you just send it off to a more expensive school. And it it's still failing, just pay more money. Eventually you'll find that monetary threshhold where the kid will pass. He/she/it won't know a Gad damn thing, but they'll have that diploma. After all, that's what you paid for, and the baby sitting.

It's a mind set UD. "If only we spend enough money." You belive that your little brat will be oh so much smarter if only you can coerce others, under the rule of law, to spend more. You could have done so much more, so much cheaper, if you'd of only cared about your own family instead of demanding that others care. But you didn't, you couldn't take the time.

"But we couldn't do that. We both have to work to make ends meet."

Fair enough UD. I suppose that's because the tax rates are so low? :) Well now sparky, let's raise those taxes a little higher and see how much time you and the mrs have.

"I made $50 dollars today tax free!!!!!!!"

"I'm cummingggggggggggggggg"

You think if you work hard enough, long enough, you're going to get something for free. You won't.

You've done nothing with your life and 60 years from now no one will know that you lived at all. Except for the taxes you think are worth passing on.

Ishmael


Who's to know UD? Perhaps if you'd of cared others around you would have been inspired by your example. But you didn't care, and you'll never care. Another child that's grown old

My but that was a whole lot of typing for pretty much no message at all except to again fire a few volleys in my direction culminating with some sort of strange orgasmic release on your part. Then again assuming things about me and my station in life as you often seem to do.

When do you figure you're going to meander back to the topic? Ever?
 
My but that was a whole lot of typing for pretty much no message at all except to again fire a few volleys in my direction culminating with some sort of strange orgasmic release on your part. Then again assuming things about me and my station in life as you often seem to do.

When do you figure you're going to meander back to the topic? Ever?

Don't pat yourself on the back sparky. You left an opening for me to speak to the crowd. This isn't a private message thread ya know?

And it's more on topic than, apparently, you realize.

Ishmael
 
Don't pat yourself on the back sparky. You left an opening for me to speak to the crowd. This isn't a private message thread ya know?

And it's more on topic than, apparently, you realize.

Ishmael

So then that would be never then eh "sparky". :rolleyes:
 
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