Underage incest fantasys

I just wonder which of these new posters, who keep dredging this ancient thread up, are cops. I'd say it's damn likely, wouldn't you?
 
" rolling my eyes" or some teen posing as an adult looking to start some crap
 
I am NOT a prude!!

I have to laugh at the posters here who proclaim they're not prudes or uptight or whatever by declaring "Ordinarilly I'm against censorship, but about THIS topic I'll make an exception" or similar silliness. C'mon...could you claim you're really a vegetarian and still eat bacon with your veggies? Could you claim you're straight because you only have homosexual trysts on days with an "R" in them? Freedom of speech must include speech that makes you uncomfortable or that you disagree with -- not just what you like and think is "kewl," or it isn't free at all. Get the frag with it people -- either it IS a duck or it ain't!
 
I've no frag to get, but yes-- I agree.

But that's not the issue here. The problem that some of us are concerned with, is that there's been a spate of online entrapments by law enforcemnt agencies, and this thread looks like it could, possibly, attract some of those Upholders Of The American Way.
 
What we have been saying is that Lauerel and Manu, as the owners of the site, can place any restriction they want on submissions. They reject stories about bestiality and stories that include sex involving people under 18 years old. I have no serious quarrel with this, and neither do most of the writers here.

WRITTEN stories on these subjects are not illegal, but there are individuals and groups that want to outlaw them. Some of these individuals and groups are in the employ of government agencies who think they have a right to control what is read by adults. All the authors disagree with them, but we don't want to give them any openings or toeholds to attack this site. They have attacked other sites that had only written descriptions and, although the "Defenders of Morality and All-round Bluenoses and Spoilsports" may not win, they can be a very expensive nuisance.

Laurel and Manu want to avoid the hassle, and we don't blame them.
 
Could you claim you're straight because you only have homosexual trysts on days with an "R" in them?
But you could, rightfully, claim bi-sexuality, which means that there is a THIRD option and your argument that there's only two is a cheat. Insisting that it's "either it is a duck or it ain't" is what we call a "false dilemma." (Hey, it could be a goose or a swan!) This, in case you're unfamiliar with it, is a logical fallacy that is used to try and pressure people into believing that there are only two answers to the question, and so they must choose one. Preferably yours.

But this is a lie. The issue is not black or white, vegetarian or not, and people don't HAVE to take one side or the other. There is a third option. In this case, the one Boxlicker neatly pointed out. That third option makes both your false dilemma and false accusation of hypocrisy pretty transparent and dumb. Are you the same asshole from the other thread so desperately in need of a censorship debate to masturbate to that you'll try anything to get us arguing with you? I'm gonna bet you are. I think you're going to be stuck with blue balls again.

Just to add, I think Box's explanation to you condensing what was said by most of us in this thread and the reasons behind our objections to underage stories ON this site for the sake of this site was not only concise, but way too nicely offered. There is no debate. You can write whatever you like. You just can't post stories here that depict sex between those under 18. End of discussion. Please take yourself and your blue balls home.
 
not quite

box, you manage to get things quite wrong,

boxWRITTEN stories on these subjects are not illegal, but there are individuals and groups that want to outlaw them. Some of these individuals and groups are in the employ of government agencies who think they have a right to control what is read by adults.

P: this has several inaccuracies, both with regard to internet and obscenity legislation.
 
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box, you manage to get things quite wrong,

WRITTEN stories on these subjects are not illegal, but there are individuals and groups that want to outlaw them. Some of these individuals and groups are in the employ of government agencies who think they have a right to control what is read by adults.

this has several inaccuracies, both with regard to internet and obscenity legislation.

In what way m I wrong? I have just bumped a prosecution for WRITTEN porn. Even though the subject matter is detestable, the prosecution should be fought because it might create a dangerous precedent.
 
In what way m I wrong? I have just bumped a prosecution for WRITTEN porn. Even though the subject matter is detestable, the prosecution should be fought because it might create a dangerous precedent.

I just found out that publishing underage pornography is illegal in my country. Doesn't matter if it's entirely fictional. This seems a little thought police-esque to me...
 
Avoiding Prosecution

I think that if one was to focus on the actual energy between the players in a story, you could write just about anything and you can avoid prosecution. For example, you can have a 30 year old man and pair him with a 50 year old and create any kind of relationship between them that has a very similar energy that you might find between an altar boy and a priest, to choose a classic metaphor.

Many, many women sleep with their bosses and have a daddy vibe going on; and so it goes for any kind of relationship, including incest. In the story, the players can be so old that any prosecutor can't help but walk away, and not related in any way, and still you can have that incest energy that comes from spending a long time in a non-sexual relationship and feeling like siblings but then the day comes ...

Strictly speaking as an author on the author's forum, there's nothing you can't do if you focus on the energy, create the characters right and make it f***ing sizzle.

(Sorry, I'm still a virgin ;-/ here and don't know if you're allowed to write fuck on the literotica authors forum LOL)
 
If you go to ASSTR you can write and read about 9 year olds.

Maybe if people see that they'll go there and stop bringing this trouble making thread up every so often.
 
I just wonder which of these new posters, who keep dredging this ancient thread up, are cops. I'd say it's damn likely, wouldn't you?

Or could be new posters who are new and consider the question to be interesting and relevant to authors who are trying to explore *fictional* sexuality which is in the end, metaphorical in origin ... :->
 
Or could be new posters who are new and consider the question to be interesting and relevant to authors who are trying to explore *fictional* sexuality which is in the end, metaphorical in origin ... :->

You don't have your private messages enabled so I will say this in a post.

Leave this thread where it was. This is always a hot bed topic here and if you try to defend it you'll get hammered. If you enjoy and think you can write underage thats fine. But you can't do it here and even discussing it is frowned upon. Its the only one of their rules they actually enforce.
 
Yes indeed-- you can write underage fiction if you want, and in fact you can discuss it. This thread is a discussion. However, you can't get specific in the discussion, and you can't post it here at literotica.com.

If you want to talk about older/younger adult relationships-- that's mighty common around here. It would definitely be a different thread though ;)
 
I think you can get a better buzz in that direction, if that's what you want, by differing the size and demeanor of the characters rather than the ages. Just saying.
 
I think you can get a better buzz in that direction, if that's what you want, by differing the size and demeanor of the characters rather than the ages. Just saying.
Wow, you just put into words something that I've felt to be true since forever.
 
Wow, you just put into words something that I've felt to be true since forever.

Thanks. I understand the buzz that's involved, but I think the emotional aspect of it doesn't have to go to Pedo to be taken out for a spin. To me it's a power and control/experience and innocence dance--from both sides of a coupling, and can be set up on a basis other than age.

When I was actually highly active, playing the innocent and having a bigger daddy was, I think, playing with the same buzz--but, in reality (and legality), it was neither Pedo nor incest.
 
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You don't have your private messages enabled so I will say this in a post.

Leave this thread where it was. This is always a hot bed topic here and if you try to defend it you'll get hammered. If you enjoy and think you can write underage thats fine. But you can't do it here and even discussing it is frowned upon. Its the only one of their rules they actually enforce.

You not only can't write about people who are underage, (18) you can't even write about people pretending to be underage. I did get some stories posted before that rule was toughened, but I can't anymore. :eek:
 
You not only can't write about people who are underage, (18) you can't even write about people pretending to be underage. I did get some stories posted before that rule was toughened, but I can't anymore. :eek:

How many times do you have to be told this is false before you stop saying it?

The restriction for age-play scenes is the following, as observed numerous times over the years -- including recently: If the scene or any significant part of it can be pulled out of the story and read as underage sex without context from the rest of the story, it will be rejected.

So long as the scene is about adults enjoying the play and not a thin veil covering an underage sex story, it will pass without a problem.
 
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