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[PrincessErin]

On another aspect to the survivor contest that has been brought up here, isn't demanding six story slots a day on the Lit. New list (which is about what 2,000 entries for the year requires) a little self-centered, grabby, obsessive, and uncaring of the Web site editors' time/attention and fellow writers' access to timely story posting just to win a quantity-assessed contest? Especially since, if you take second place and someone sends you a check for $5,000, you've come out $4,750 better than if you'd won.

Thank you for putting in words what I've been wanting to say for a while. I like your opinions and your thoughts.

Erin

 

[PrincessErin]

I agree that getting rid of the Survivor contest and the monthly contests is a good thing. I do like the theme contests just because it's fun as a reader to read stories that all have the same theme.
I enjoy the whining and bitching and complaining - it makes me realize I'm normal and it reminds me of my students at school. I'm on maternity leave and haven't been surrounded by "my life is horrible, life is unfair, moan, moan, moan" attitude in over a year. It makes me feel at home here.

(Yes I am being silly. I was up at 5:45am.)

Erin

 

[Boxlicker101]

I agree that getting rid of the Survivor contest and the monthly contests is a good thing. I do like the theme contests just because it's fun as a reader to read stories that all have the same theme.
I enjoy the whining and bitching and complaining - it makes me realize I'm normal and it reminds me of my students at school. I'm on maternity leave and haven't been surrounded by "my life is horrible, life is unfair, moan, moan, moan" attitude in over a year. It makes me feel at home here.

(Yes I am being silly. I was up at 5:45am.)

Erin

Personally, I rather like the Survivor Contest and the theme contests. On all of these, the winners are announced shortly after the conclusion. On the monthly contests and the nominations for leading stories in individual categories, the winners and nominees are announced at least six months after the closing date, which makes them seem pointless. If they were announced when they are supposed to be, about the 20th of the following month, that would be another matter.

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

Ah, so. That's good. So, if someone pointed to a story that had essentially been posted before (especially of similar length with just minor changes), than that would be a case of cheating in the Survivor contest, not a case of a bad public comment on a story. Right?

Either that or someone just didn't pay close attention to the rules in the first place.

 

[PrincessErin]

Personally, I rather like the Survivor Contest and the theme contests. On all of these, the winners are announced shortly after the conclusion. On the monthly contests and the nominations for leading stories in individual categories, the winners and nominees are announced at least six months after the closing date, which makes them seem pointless. If they were announced when they are supposed to be, about the 20th of the following month, that would be another matter.

Good point Boxlicker. I never pay attention to the monthly contests but if there is such a backlog then I agree it's not a good motivator for writers.
I do like the Survivor contest, I wouldn't be participating if I didn't, however I like the personal challenge it creates, not the pettiness over cheating and conspiracy theories etc.

Erin

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Different set of rules

I see from reading this thread that there are different Survivor Contest rules for regulars and then there are the rules for me.

When I totally rewrite a story that has been withdrawn, with the permission of Laurel, I might add, I'm a cheater.

When a 'regular' totally rewrites a story it's called an adaptation.

Hey, that's okay. Now, that I know the rules, rules are rules and I will abide by whatever additional blockades and barriers you people want to put before me.

What are you afraid of? A little competition?

I've already withdrawn all my previously posted stories and have corrected my scorecard. It doesn't matter. I have more stories to post.

I want to thank you all for welcoming me to Literotica from day one and for being such assholes. You all know who you are and now I know who you are, too.

And by the way, do you know what Laurel wrote to me? She said, "You can catch more flies with a bit of honey."

Nah, not always. With you people, and you know who I'm talking about, I could pour the whole bottle on you and you'd still smell and taste like sour pickles.

I'm in a good place with my writing and I don't need you folks to bring me down.

Good luck to you all in the Survivor competition because if you think you have a chance against me, you will need whatever lucky charms you can stick up your asses.

 

[starrkers]

I see from reading this thread that there are different Survivor Contest rules for regulars and then there are the rules for me.

When I totally rewrite a story that has been withdrawn, with the permission of Laurel, I might add, I'm a cheater.

When a 'regular' totally rewrites a story it's called an adaptation.

Hey, that's okay. Now, that I know the rules, rules are rules and I will abide by whatever additional blockades and barriers you people want to put before me.

What are you afraid of? A little competition?

I've already withdrawn all my previously posted stories and have corrected my scorecard. It doesn't matter. I have more stories to post.

I want to thank you all for welcoming me to Literotica from day one and for being such assholes. You all know who you are and now I know who you are, too.

And by the way, do you know what Laurel wrote to me? She said, "You can catch more flies with a bit of honey."

Nah, not always. With you people, and you know who I'm talking about, I could pour the whole bottle on you and you'd still smell and taste like sour pickles.

I'm in a good place with my writing and I don't need you folks to bring me down.

Good luck to you all in the Survivor competition because if you think you have a chance against me, you will need whatever lucky charms you can stick up your asses.

Or maybe it's just the smell from the sour grapes you're buried under.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Fuck off!

You don't want to get in a contest of wits with me Starkers because I'd embarrass you in front of your following of little friends, including the gay cowboy, saddle ass.

Sour grapes? No, I don't have sour grapes, but the whole thing last year smelled. Yes, I'll admit that and the shit was thrown my way. Matter of fact, even after the contest ended Lauren was going through my score card to see what she could rearrange to get Magicapractica 2nd place instead of 3rd place. Fucked up.

The only way this contest will not be won by me this year is...and here it is, I'm handing it to you on a silver platter, is if they disqualify me for some trumped up offense.

I can see you witches reading over the rules now.

Hey, I mind my fucking business but one of you bastards or bitches, I don't know which one it is, yet, but I'll find out. Trust me. I have friends, too. One of you bitches or bastards continues to post shit on my stories. Now, no other writer here is treated as badly as I am, ergo the reason for my anger.

Now, until you can prove to me Starkers that you are not one of the queen bitches behind all the shit on my stories, then I have you in my sights, especially since you can't keep your fingers off the keyboard as much as you can't keep your legs closed.

Fuck off!

 

[sr71plt]

You don't want to get in a contest of wits with me Starkers because I'd embarrass you in front of your following of little friends, including the gay cowboy, saddle ass.

Sour grapes? No, I don't have sour grapes, but the whole thing last year smelled. Yes, I'll admit that and the shit was thrown my way. Matter of fact, even after the contest ended Lauren was going through my score card to see what she could rearrange to get Magicapractica 2nd place instead of 3rd place. Fucked up.

The only way this contest will not be won by me this year is...and here it is, I'm handing it to you on a silver platter, is if they disqualify me for some trumped up offense.

I can see you witches reading over the rules now.

Hey, I mind my fucking business but one of you bastards or bitches, I don't know which one it is, yet, but I'll find out. Trust me. I have friends, too. One of you bitches or bastards continues to post shit on my stories. Now, no other writer here is treated as badly as I am, ergo the reason for my anger.

Now, until you can prove to me Starkers that you are not one of the queen bitches behind all the shit on my stories, then I have you in my sights, especially since you can't keep your fingers off the keyboard as much as you can't keep your legs closed.

Fuck off!

By your own accounting, you made $5,250 out of last year's survivor's contest. Your attitude thus seems way out of whack, I'm afraid. Why would you have a problem staying within the rules of the contest? On the question of reposting, you can point to possible infractions as well as anyone else, can't you? What evidence do you have that Laurel was trying to manipulate the contest last year to deprive you of second place? You know, a charge like that is really not very nice, unless you have some sort of evidence to back it up.

I try my best to be fair to you, but you seem to be your own worst enemy.

 

[starrkers]

You really are the most objectionable little weed, aren't you BOSTONFICTIONWRITER? Whenever you are thwarted by the rules you cry foul. You arrived here with a chip on your shoulder and have been carefully feeding it ever since. It should be quite a good table top by now.

If your idea of a "contest of wits" is to throw epithets and meaningless insults, I think I'm fairly safe.

You know nothing about me, Freddie, beyond what anyone else here knows. So your attempted insults are both amusing and pathetic.


Sincerely, though, if you haven't been tested for bipolar disorder, I strongly suggest you look into it.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Knock it the fuck off

Since I came here, all that I wanted to do was to write my stories. I wasn't looking to make friends. If by chance I made a friend then that was a bonus, and I have made many friends here.

Now, I don't know if you noticed, but I haven't been able to write my stories in peace. Why is that? You tell me, you're plugged in here. I'm not. After writing here more than a year, I'm still an outsider looking in.

Tell me this, when you craft a story and submit your story, what happens to your story? It's read and voted on by your army of friends. Correct?

Well, do you know what happens to my stories, every story? I'm relentlessly bashed. Why is that? It's not my stories because I write some damn good stories if I say so myself.

Oh, yeah, sure, this is where you tell me you receive bashes, too. You aren't bashed the way that I'm bashed, no one here is.

How many red H's do you have? Has anyone ever gone through your sheet and erased every red H not once but seven times? How would you feel if someone did that to you? Wouldn't you be a little pissed? Wouldn't that make you angry?

Maybe, you don't give a care about red H's, but how about scores. It's nice to see how well your writing has been received, isn't it? Do you not what I get? Multiple 1's. Now, I don't care who wrote the story, that's not right.

Now, what about comments. Did you ever have someone write a comment to every story, "You Suck!" not once, not twice, but three times? Has that ever happened to you?

Now, let's talk about last year Survivor's contest since you brought it up, yet, again, by writing that I have sour grapes. Actually, I have big fucking balls. I fear no one.

When someone comes out of no where and dumps two hundred 750-1,000 word stories on the board at the last possible hour, how is that fair? Yeah, I know it's in the rules, but it's also in the rules that one person must write those stories and not several people writing them and submitting under one person's name.

And what about this? What's with all these people who have multiple identities? I have no idea who the Hell I'm corresponding with. You may be Scouries (sorry Scouries) for all I know.

I'm rambling here but I have much to ramble about.

Then, you have the psycho Queen bitch of bitches, Daniellekitten sending me PM's and bashing my story. When I defend myself, she runs here to these AH forum pages from her friends and from her multiple identities. Don't talk to me about people who need mental help when you have psychos like her running amuck on these pages.

Then, she writes about me on her blog. Am I that friggen important that she must write about me? How dare she? Now, I wouldn't mind if she was writing the truth about me and not lies.

I'll tell you what, Starkers, when you can get your little friends together and tell them to back off on my stories and stop bashing them and giving me low scores, then you won't believe how nice I can be. When you can tell your little mental cases of friends to leave me the fuck alone, then I will leave you the fuck alone.

Until then, stop tallking about me and referring about me. Just stop. Close your mouth. Mind your business. I never bothered you. I never talked about you or anyone else on these pages and every day I read someone mentioning BFW or implying about me.

Knock it the fuck off.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

I'll accept your apologies now.

First of all, I didn't write Laurel. I wrote Lauren.

Secondly, let me sit down with the fucking rules and memorize them before I write a fucking story.

Thirdly, so what I made money. It's not about money to me. I have money. It's about the writing. It's about the story. That's why I'm here. Do you really think that I need the lousy $500 or the $5,000 for that matter? I gave it to charity.

All I'm saying is that I'm not being treated fairly around here. Yet, when I complain about how I'm treated I get a whinner like you who writes, "You earned $5,250."

You need money that bad? Send me your address and I'll write you a check. Just tell me how much to make it out for.

None of you people have been treated the way that I've been treated. None of you have been bashed like me, have had nasty comments constantly and continually written on your stories, death threats, poisonous anonymous e-mails, and just nasty people like Starkers making mean comments.

I have a thick skin, but my feelings are hurt.

Until I receive apologies from everyone on this board, and you know who I'm talking about, don't write about me, don't talk about me, and don't refer to me.

I'm done with you all. If, in the event, you want to make nice with me, apologize, call the dogs off my stories, and we can go from there.

You don't know me. You don't know who I am. I can be a good friend and resourse to those who treat me as well as I treat them.

 

[sr71plt]

I have a thick skin

Apparently not. A thick head perhaps.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Just for the hell of it, I bumped the 2007 equivalent of this thread, so everybody can read the posts of BFW from last year too, if you want.

 

[drksideofthemoon]

You don't want to get in a contest of wits with me Starkers because I'd embarrass you in front of your following of little friends, including the gay cowboy, saddle ass.

Sour grapes? No, I don't have sour grapes, but the whole thing last year smelled. Yes, I'll admit that and the shit was thrown my way. Matter of fact, even after the contest ended Lauren was going through my score card to see what she could rearrange to get Magicapractica 2nd place instead of 3rd place. Fucked up.

The only way this contest will not be won by me this year is...and here it is, I'm handing it to you on a silver platter, is if they disqualify me for some trumped up offense.

I can see you witches reading over the rules now.

Hey, I mind my fucking business but one of you bastards or bitches, I don't know which one it is, yet, but I'll find out. Trust me. I have friends, too. One of you bitches or bastards continues to post shit on my stories. Now, no other writer here is treated as badly as I am, ergo the reason for my anger.

Now, until you can prove to me Starkers that you are not one of the queen bitches behind all the shit on my stories, then I have you in my sights, especially since you can't keep your fingers off the keyboard as much as you can't keep your legs closed.

Fuck off!

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[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Are you all that stupid?

I'll tell you what because obviously none of you are getting my point. Boxsucker, I'm disappointed in you. Darksideofmy asshole, I expected no less from you.

What if I went through all of your scorecards and ruined your scores. What if I gave all my friends who vote for my stories a list of your names to go through all of your stories and give you the same treatment that I have received here.

Maybe, then, you would understand what it feels like to be treated that way. Apparently, I'm not getting through to you.

Are you all that stupid? Maybe.

 

[drksideofthemoon]

I'll tell you what because obviously none of you are getting my point. Boxsucker, I'm disappointed in you. Darksideofmy asshole, I expected no less from you.

What if I went through all of your scorecards and ruined your scores. What if I gave all my friends who vote for my stories a list of your names to go through all of your stories and give you the same treatment that I have received here.

Maybe, then, you would understand what it feels like to be treated that way. Apparently, I'm not getting through to you.

Are you all that stupid? Maybe.

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[Boxlicker101]

I'll tell you what because obviously none of you are getting my point. Boxsucker, I'm disappointed in you. Darksideofmy asshole, I expected no less from you.

What if I went through all of your scorecards and ruined your scores. What if I gave all my friends who vote for my stories a list of your names to go through all of your stories and give you the same treatment that I have received here.

Maybe, then, you would understand what it feels like to be treated that way. Apparently, I'm not getting through to you.

Are you all that stupid? Maybe.

Actually, that kind of thing happens to all of us. There are probably more threads on this forum complaining about trolls than anything else. I doubt if anybody singles you out.

By the way, if you have a thousand votes on any one story in a few days, it's a certainty that somebody is stuffing the ballot box.

ETA: I also want to point out that you have been around for slightly over a year. If I had made as many enemies as you claim to have made in that short a period of time,I would be asking myself what is wrong with me to be so disliked

 

[starrkers]

I'll tell you what because obviously none of you are getting my point. Boxsucker, I'm disappointed in you. Darksideofmy asshole, I expected no less from you.

What if I went through all of your scorecards and ruined your scores. What if I gave all my friends who vote for my stories a list of your names to go through all of your stories and give you the same treatment that I have received here.

Maybe, then, you would understand what it feels like to be treated that way. Apparently, I'm not getting through to you.

Are you all that stupid? Maybe.

Contrary to your singular belief, it really IS NOT all about you. Were you not so wrapped up in the injustices heaped upon you, maybe you would see - WE ALL GET TANKED.

The extent to which we get tanked depends on how much of a fuss we raise over it. You raise hell, the trolls love it so do it again, you raise more hell, they smile and do it again... Do you see a pattern yet?

Those of us that mutter mutinously under our breath, shrug, and carry don't give the trolls the fix they need - we don't rise to their bait, they give up and go fishing elsewhere.

I have been here about a month longer than you. You have reading stats vastly superior to me. You have been noticed, you have readers. You also have trolls and as long as you rise to their bait, they will keep trolling.

I have two certain trolls (yes, only 2, but as I said, I have a much smaller readership than you). Everything I write gets at least two 1 votes when it first appears. Seeing as my newest story only has three votes, that bites pretty deep. But screaming blue murder and insulting everyone on the boards isn't going to make them go away. It will make them bring their friends to join the party.

You know what? I don't care. Really. Yeah, it bites when a good score suddenly goes down the toilet, but I know most of the people who read my stuff like it and they will seek out my handle on new stories, regardless of little red Hs or troll votes.

I've never won a contest, I doubt I ever will. But I refuse to let the wowsers and bashers and trolls get to me. It's not worth the blood pressure.

Did you know less than 5% of the internet traffic through Lit even comes to the forums? Let alone the AH. If you think there are enough people here to significantly dent your fortunes on the main site you are deluded. In dead categories (the ones that get very little traffic), I can muster maybe 15 votes, if I'm very lucky. I'm assuming they're mostly AHers.

Do you really think 15 votes is likely to make any difference in and incest, non consent or loving wives story?

Please, mate, stop and think before you fly off with these ridiculous accusations. And leave the insults in your pocket. You just make yourself look like a tantrum throwing two year old.

Is it any wonder you keep getting your bottom smacked and get sent to your room?

 

[PrincessErin]

I have to jump in here. I might regret it later but oh well.

BFW - you can not say in the same breath "all that I wanted to do was to write my stories" and then say "good luck to you all in the Survivor competition because if you think you have a chance against me, you will need whatever lucky charms you can stick up your asses. "

If you really just wanted to write stories you wouldn't be worried about contests. If you were smart you wouldn't participate in contests that as you say have "different Survivor Contest rules for regulars and then there are the rules for me."

You keep saying that you have friends on here. You keep saying that people enjoy your stories. Why aren't they sticking up for you? Thats what friends do.

I also believe that you removed those red H's from your stories yourself just to look like you were being treated badly. You know if you choose to remove the scoring option on your stories all the red H's dissapear since your stories don't have any scores.

If you weren't so arrogant and paranoid all the time people might actually like talking to you. You're just known as that creepy paranoid guy who thinks the world is after them.

Erin

 

[sr71plt]

I have to jump in here. I might regret it later but oh well.

BFW - you can not say in the same breath "all that I wanted to do was to write my stories" and then say "good luck to you all in the Survivor competition because if you think you have a chance against me, you will need whatever lucky charms you can stick up your asses. "

If you really just wanted to write stories you wouldn't be worried about contests. If you were smart you wouldn't participate in contests that as you say have "different Survivor Contest rules for regulars and then there are the rules for me."

You keep saying that you have friends on here. You keep saying that people enjoy your stories. Why aren't they sticking up for you? Thats what friends do.

I also believe that you removed those red H's from your stories yourself just to look like you were being treated badly. You know if you choose to remove the scoring option on your stories all the red H's dissapear since your stories don't have any scores.

If you weren't so arrogant and paranoid all the time people might actually like talking to you. You're just known as that creepy paranoid guy who thinks the world is after them.

Erin

I agree that BFW vents out of both sides of his mouth (and seems every inch the bipolar that Starrkers suggested) and I think this "mysterious" $5,000 claim of his is sort of a dumb load of crap. But I don't have a problem believing that there was a combined effort against him in the 2007 Survivor's contest or that there was a coordinated effort to downgrade the rating on his stories. Unfortunately, he's being such a yutz about everything--and in lashing out in every direction-- that I no longer really care.

This is all bringing out all of the worst aspects about the Survivor contest, which I think we could do well without now. All it's doing is clogging the submissions process with a high volume of substandard works and making the posting time longer for everyone else. All this is doing is feeding greed--and BFW is the first one in line, holding his hot little hand out--but some other folks seem just a step or two behind him--for what, I'm not quite sure.

 

[PrincessErin]

I agree that BFW vents out of both sides of his mouth (and seems every inch the bipolar that Starrkers suggested) and I think this "mysterious" $5,000 claim of his is sort of a dumb load of crap. But I don't have a problem believing that there was a combined effort against him in the 2007 Survivor's contest or that there was a coordinated effort to downgrade the rating on his stories. Unfortunately, he's being such a yutz about everything--and in lashing out in every direction-- that I no longer really care.

This is all bringing out all of the worst aspects about the Survivor contest, which I think we could do well without now. All it's doing is clogging the submissions process with a high volume of substandard works and making the posting time longer for everyone else. All this is doing is feeding greed--and BFW is the first one in line, holding his hot little hand out--but some other folks seem just a step or two behind him--for what, I'm not quite sure.

So true. I still read as many stories as I can a day and look at the new stories every morning. I really don't like what BFW writes so my choices for reading good stories is limited.

Erin

 

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[Boxlicker101]

Just write for fuck's sake. It's supposed be a fun contest to excerise writing skills.

That's what I say. I don't actually expect to win any money, but I do expect to finish in the top ten, as I usually do. A $25 Amazon gift certificate is no big deal. I haven't even claimed the one from last year yet, although I suppose I should.

I like having the little H's on my index and I like having women send me emails or PC saying they got wet or got off on a story I wrote. That's the reason I come here and write smut. That and the fact that I enjoy doing it for its own sake.

 

[ExoMani]

That's what I say. I don't actually expect to win any money, but I do expect to finish in the top ten, as I usually do. A $25 Amazon gift certificate is no big deal. I haven't even claimed the one from last year yet, although I suppose I should.

I like having the little H's on my index and I like having women send me emails or PC saying they got wet or got off on a story I wrote. That's the reason I come here and write smut. That and the fact that I enjoy doing it for its own sake.

I've never entered a writing contest, and probably never will. I am, however, here for all of the same reasons as you. I just love getting those "wet" emails!