Asphyxiation

[Squeaky37]

I was talking to a close male friend of mine last week and he mentioned that he was into asphyxation. I'd heard of it before, but had never even considered it as an attractive past-time. I voiced a concern or two and he put his hand on my neck to show me how it feels. I immediately questioned his motives and requested that he stop.

However, for the next few days I could not stop thinking about the sensation of his hands round my neck and when I was round at his on monday I brought this up. Instead of just showing me the sensation he kissed me at the same time. It was such a rush of being powerless and the sensation was amazing.

What are people's thoughts on asphyxiation? Do you think it's dangerous? How would you know when to stop? Does anyone practise this on a regular basis?

I am thoroughly facinated by this now, but can only find factual documents on the internet - I want to know what people think and feel from it!!!!

Many thanks!
Squeaky37 xx

 

[Little_Kitten]

If you need to get me wet... Strangle me. That's my main button I guess :O

So yes. Asphyxiation is something i like.. Alot... And as you described, it's the loss of power.. giving up control that attracts me. There's something about it.
A strangle and a few slaps just does it for me

I can't really describe it further. I never gave me much thought. I just know it's a main kink for me, and it's probably the easiest way to make me.... soft lol. Well that and slapping.

 

[catalina_francisco]

You will find some safety information etc., in this thread. There are also other threads here which have dealt with the subject and likely will be found in the library or through doing a search for 'asphyxiation' or 'breath play'. Personally, because of the dangers (and number of deaths of people dabbling without knowing what they are dabbling with), I would not be getting into it with a casual partner, or someone I did not know for sure knew what they were doing. We have played with it on a couple of occasions and will again, but it is not a practice which is recommended on a regular basis. Sorry to sound like a wet blanket but I am big on safety, especially when playing with people you are not in a 24/7 and/or serious relationship with.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2049/2263632976_48c59454d8_t.jpgCatalina

 

[intothewoods]

For me, I just need the hint of it. Light breath play with the right look from him does the trick and no safety issues! That and very gentle face "slapping" (doesn't even hurt, in fact) are definitely a regular part of our kink. It's not about pain or achieving a sensation of not breathing. It's about power and what he could do.

 

[madetotakeit]

...It's not about pain or achieving a sensation of not breathing. It's about power and what he could do.

Couldn't agree with you more. I've never taken it far enough that breathing was hindered (unless you count how my breathing changed in reaction.) But a firm hand around my throat in a controlling manner, looking up into a face that I trust, seeing the eyes go just a shade darker...no doubts about who is in control then. Just thinking about that feeling and that look...ummm, yeah...I need to go...ummm...find something to occupy myself.

 

[Little_Kitten]

Couldn't agree with you more. I've never taken it far enough that breathing was hindered (unless you count how my breathing changed in reaction.) But a firm hand around my throat in a controlling manner, looking up into a face that I trust, seeing the eyes go just a shade darker...no doubts about who is in control then. Just thinking about that feeling and that look...ummm, yeah...I need to go...ummm...find something to occupy myself.

I agree with both you and intothewoods

It's nothing -too- extreme. Just the sensation and loss of power. Although, sometimes I do like being handled more roughly.

 

[00Syd]

I don't know anything about asphyxiation, but its something I'm interested in, so I'll definitely keep an eye on this thread!

 

[ownedsubgal]

it's something we dabble in from time to time. things like having his cock all the way down my throat with my face buried against him so i can't breathe at all, or suffocation with pillows and blankets are what we do the most. i've actually passed out a few times from forceful deepthroating...the first time it was super scary, because of course you think you're going to die and start panicking like a maniac, but after i came to and realized i was relatively okay it was just another experience to add to the books.

lately i've been serving a Dominant who enjoys choking me with his hands while he screws me. and he doesn't play around with the light stuff...he will take his hand, wrap it around my throat and squeeze and squeeze until my whole head feels puffy and my face is discolored. he'll usually let up when my eyes start to roll, wait a few secs then go at it again. of course the fear factor is always there, but i think that's a major part of the appeal (for me anyway)...you're so utterly vulnerable and powerless, your life is in someone else's hands.

 

[mynameiskate]

All I can say is be very careful with it and read up as much as you can. We don't want anyone being convicted of homicide.

 

[bdsm_librarian]

Welcome Squeaky

There is a 'Breath Play' section in the BDSM Library , though it has yet to be updated during the current & ongoing revision. I'll attend to that in the next few hours, should you care to peruse it at some later stage.

In the Interim the following additional links may be of assistance to the discussion being shared with this ongoing thread topic.

Additional links:

The Medical Realities of Breath Control Play

Viewpoints Concerning Erotic Asphyxiation

An Overview on Breath Control Play

 

[MasterPhoenix]

Well for my feelings on breath play, see my rose's avatar.

It is something to be careful with as others have said... I would not use anythign more than my hands... and even then I have to be careful..

There was one time where she almost passed out... scared me...

But yea, I love my hands around her neck

 

[Betticus]

The only experience I have had with it was when my Domme friend and I had sex. More like a fight with sex.

Anyway, she liked to choke and not in a gentle way but she was also an EMT at the time so I wasn't too worried.

Anyhow, I'd recommend doing a lot of homework on this subject as this is a risky thing to do even with someone who is experienced.

For a lot of people just being held by the neck is what really turns them on and not actual choking.

 

[EmpressFi]

It's not something Malin and I do, but something Master and I will do at least once a weekend visit. Usually it's his hand but more than likely, it's his elbow. He's never applied enough pressure that I couldnt squeak out a sound, but I love the gradual increasing pressure and the body's natural increase in panic ~ even knowing that he's not going to hurt me hurt me. I've never gotten dizzy or passed out, but I agree to read up and be safe

 

[YourCaptor]

I absolutely loath being choked.

But I love doing it to a lover.

I get such a high off of it, that little reflexive gulp in the beginning, then their eyes turn big as panic start to set in. Hands fly up, but then her mind catches her and turns her resistance into a meek gentle touch. By then its time to loosen the tight grip, to feel her give up her neck, and watch her eyes roll back into subyland.

A heads up: If you close the jugulars with your choke you generally have 6 seconds before the average person will faint. You should never hold for over 5 seconds, else depending on how long you hold, there will be brain damage, a coma, seizures, even death. Don’t mess with the jugulars.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

I really enjoy the sensation of being choked but it's something that Master does rarely. Breathplay, yes, but not choking.

I have epilepsy so choking me is risky as it not only stops me breathing but also cuts off the blood supply to my brain. He does do it occasionally but never when I'm restrained or gagged, never for more than a few seconds and always while watching my expression closely.

Breathplay for us is when he puts his hand over my mouth and nose or cuts off my breathing with his cock. I am much safer with this kind of play because the blood supply through the neck is not affected.

For me though, it is an ultimate expression of control. To be literally dependent upon him for my next breath is an intense feeling. We have a very strong bond of trust and he is very responsible with this type of play but I agree with other posters here that it's not for everyone.

It's a measure of how much it turns me on that we have sought to keep breathplay in our repertoire despite the risks regarding epilepsy. So far, we've had no bad experiences with it.

Are you interested in sexual submission or specifically the rush from asphyxiation? For me the two are inextricably linked but I suppose that's not necessarily true for everyone.

I must say that I would personally go apeshit at someone who tried to choke me without my consent to 'see if I liked it.' The guy you've been discussing this with sounds a bit too keen to be as responsible about this as he should be. This kind of play can go very wrong, very quickly and should never be undertaken lightly or without agreement. I would seriously consider how much you trust this man if I were you.

 

[intothewoods]

Oh, thought I'd add that Mister Man and I are attending an erotic breathplay workshop next month!

 

[Tuomas]

it's something we dabble in from time to time. things like having his cock all the way down my throat with my face buried against him so i can't breathe at all, or suffocation with pillows and blankets are what we do the most. i've actually passed out a few times from forceful deepthroating...the first time it was super scary, because of course you think you're going to die and start panicking like a maniac, but after i came to and realized i was relatively okay it was just another experience to add to the books.

lately i've been serving a Dominant who enjoys choking me with his hands while he screws me. and he doesn't play around with the light stuff...he will take his hand, wrap it around my throat and squeeze and squeeze until my whole head feels puffy and my face is discolored. he'll usually let up when my eyes start to roll, wait a few secs then go at it again. of course the fear factor is always there, but i think that's a major part of the appeal (for me anyway)...you're so utterly vulnerable and powerless, your life is in someone else's hands.

The passing out bit got me concerned. Although you seem quiet experienced, and know what you are doing, I question if your partner(s) do. Asphyxiating someone until they pass out can -and often does- cause brain damage. Particularly if they are hot and engaged in physical activity. Sometimes it's minute, but it can be cumulative over time, much like drinking excessively.

Another bit was mentioned about squeezing the jugular (or carotid artery, though that's much harder), not only does it lead to loss of blood flow, but can increase blood pressure in the brain and/or form a clot that could lead to an embolism or stroke.

Not that breath play isn't fun, but I'm and EMT and usually can't keep that kind of stuff out of my head

 

[ownedsubgal]

Tuomas, you raise some good points. as a slave my first concern is really not for my own welfare, so i don't dwell much on those issues. i think the relative infrequency in which i'm asphyxiated to the point of losing consciousness is what has (thus far) prevented any significant damage.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

Tuomas, you raise some good points. as a slave my first concern is really not for my own welfare, so i don't dwell much on those issues. i think the relative infrequency in which i'm asphyxiated to the point of losing consciousness is what has (thus far) prevented any significant damage.

I understand your logic OSG but I also think it's important to remember that you're no use as a slave if you're dead or your health is compromised. My Master is aware that if he damages me irreparably he loses my service, time invested in my training and a valued piece of property. I hope for your sake that your owner has the same view.

 

[Tuomas]

Tuomas, you raise some good points. as a slave my first concern is really not for my own welfare, so i don't dwell much on those issues. i think the relative infrequency in which i'm asphyxiated to the point of losing consciousness is what has (thus far) prevented any significant damage.

Certainly I understand your position. It's your PLY that I'm concerned about. Like VD said, it's no good for him if he hurts you beyond remedy. I don't mean to sound like a safety-nut (jumping into burning buildings doesn't set a good example in that regard), but I would be a bit wary if someone who didn't have a medical background did this to you. I mean, doing it occasionally probably won't cause any problem in the long run... but what if something went wrong?

Not to be a wet blanket, of course. I actually find the idea intriguing, and I think it can be properly managed to not cause harm. Passing out from lack of oxygen isn't such a horrible thing, and by itself shouldn't cause any harm at all (as long as it's less than a minute). It's all the other things, like acidosis which comes from not breathing for a long time, tachiapnea or impeded blood flow that are the issue.

 

[Leashed]

i it. with that being said....i wouldn't let just anyone do it. trust is a big factor.

 

[ownedsubgal]

Certainly I understand your position. It's your PLY that I'm concerned about. Like VD said, it's no good for him if he hurts you beyond remedy. I don't mean to sound like a safety-nut (jumping into burning buildings doesn't set a good example in that regard), but I would be a bit wary if someone who didn't have a medical background did this to you. I mean, doing it occasionally probably won't cause any problem in the long run... but what if something went wrong?

Not to be a wet blanket, of course. I actually find the idea intriguing, and I think it can be properly managed to not cause harm. Passing out from lack of oxygen isn't such a horrible thing, and by itself shouldn't cause any harm at all (as long as it's less than a minute). It's all the other things, like acidosis which comes from not breathing for a long time, tachiapnea or impeded blood flow that are the issue.

well oddly enough i've passed out more with others than with my Master...he has me serve and used by other men on a regular basis, and what he will or won't allow someone to do varies depending on the individual, his mood at that particular time, or whatever else. He has actually taught others how to suffocate, choke, and otherwise asphyxiate me. i can only assume he's teaching them how to do it in a relatively safe way. He has also made it clear to others, and to me, that when giving oral for instance, if i'm being aggressively deepthroated and cannot breathe, he would rather i pass out than pull my head back/show any sign of resistance. that's what it's all about for him, no resistance. i've never been out for more than a minute or so.

 

[Tuomas]

well oddly enough i've passed out more with others than with my Master...he has me serve and used by other men on a regular basis, and what he will or won't allow someone to do varies depending on the individual, his mood at that particular time, or whatever else. He has actually taught others how to suffocate, choke, and otherwise asphyxiate me. i can only assume he's teaching them how to do it in a relatively safe way. He has also made it clear to others, and to me, that when giving oral for instance, if i'm being aggressively deepthroated and cannot breathe, he would rather i pass out than pull my head back/show any sign of resistance. that's what it's all about for him, no resistance. i've never been out for more than a minute or so.

Ah, well, that goes beyond my area, frankly. I just hope he's up to snuff on his stuff, and you are having fun

 

[ownedsubgal]

Ah, well, that goes beyond my area, frankly. I just hope he's up to snuff on his stuff, and you are having fun

lol, if i were having fun that would rather defeat the purpose. but no harm, we're just coming at this from two very different worlds.

 

[Tuomas]

lol, if i were having fun that would rather defeat the purpose. but no harm, we're just coming at this from two very different worlds.

Ah, true. Yes, you are right. But, if you ever need any pointers in the medical area, let me know (I sooo love showing off ).