Why do nice guys finish "LAST"?

why do nice guys finish last

  • Too nice

    Votes: 21 40.4%
  • prefer asshole

    Votes: 12 23.1%
  • too scary

    Votes: 2 3.8%
  • don't know

    Votes: 17 32.7%

  • Total voters
    52
  • Poll closed .
http://gos.sbc.edu/s/solanas.html

Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation and destroy the male sex.

It is now technically feasible to reproduce without the aid of males (or, for that matter, females) and to produce only females. We must begin immediately to do so. Retaining the male has not even the dubious purpose of reproduction. The male is a biological accident: the Y (male) gene is an incomplete X (female) gene, that is, it has an incomplete set of chromosomes. In other words, the male is an incomplete female, a walking abortion, aborted at the gene stage. To be male is to be deficient, emotionally limited; maleness is a deficiency disease and males are emotional cripples.

The male is completely egocentric, trapped inside himself, incapable of empathizing or identifying with others, or love, friendship, affection of tenderness. He is a completely isolated unit, incapable of rapport with anyone. His responses are entirely visceral, not cerebral; his intelligence is a mere tool in the services of his drives and needs; he is incapable of mental passion, mental interaction; he can't relate to anything other than his own physical sensations. He is a half-dead, unresponsive lump, incapable of giving or receiving pleasure or happiness; consequently, he is at best an utter bore, an inoffensive blob, since only those capable of absorption in others can be charming. He is trapped in a twilight zone halfway between humans and apes, and is far worse off than the apes because, unlike the apes, he is capable of a large array of negative feelings -- hate, jealousy, contempt, disgust, guilt, shame, doubt -- and moreover, he is aware of what he is and what he isn't.
 
Imagine how mad as fuck you women would be if this thoughtful article were written about women and not men... :eek:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa...AA35754C0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

Incredible Shrinking Y

By MAUREEN DOWD; THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN IS ON VACATION.
Published: July 9, 2003

Why, oh Y, are men so insecure?

The darlings have been fretting for some years now that they may be rendered unnecessary if women get financial and biological independence, learning how to reproduce and refinance without them. What if nature played a cruel trick and demoted men, so they had to be judged merely by their appearance, pliability and talent for gazing raptly at the opposite sex, no matter how bored?

New research on the Y chromosome shows that my jittery male friends are not paranoid; they are in an evolutionary shame spiral.

As Nicholas Wade wrote in The Times: ''Although most men are unaware of the peril, the Y chromosome has been shedding genes furiously over the course of evolutionary time, and it is now a fraction of the size of its partner, the X chromosome. . . . The decay of the Y stems from the fact that it is forbidden to enjoy the principal advantage of sex, which is, of course, for each member of a pair of chromosomes to swap matching pieces of DNA with its partner.''

Mr. Wade said that biologists in Cambridge, Mass., had made a remarkable discovery: ''Denied the benefits of recombining with the X, the Y recombines with itself.''

The ultimate guys' night out. Simply put, the Y chromosome figured out a Herculean way to save itself from extinction by making an incredibly difficult hairpin turn and swapping molecular material with itself.

Self-love as a survival mechanism: the unflinching narcissism of men may send women into despair at times, but it has saved their sex for the next 5 million or 10 million years.

But, according to Olivia Judson, science's answer to the sensual British cook Nigella Lawson, men may need more than narcissism to survive.

Dr. Judson, a 33-year-old evolutionary biologist at Imperial College in London who has written a book about animals in a Dear Abby style, or Deer Abby, under the pen name Dr. Tatiana, says the worm has turned. ''For a long time, it was assumed that promiscuity was good for males and bad for females in terms of the number of kids they could have,'' she explains. ''But it wasn't until 1988 that it really started to become evident that females were benefiting from having sex with lots of males, with more promiscuous females having more and healthier offspring.''

In her book, Dr. Judson writes about powerful babes, noting that females in more than 80 species, like praying mantises, have been caught devouring their lovers before, during or after mating. ''I'm particularly fond,'' she told me, ''of the green spoon worm. . . . The male is 200,000 times smaller, effectively a little parasite who lives in her reproductive tract, fertilizing her eggs and regurgitating sperm through his mouth.''

And then there's the tiny female midge, who plunges her proboscis into the male midge's head during procreation. As Dr. Judson told the journalist Ken Ringle, ''Her spittle turns his innards to soup, which she slurps up, drinking until she's sucked him dry.''

The Economist recently reported on a variation of the creepy-crawly girl-eats-boy love stories. The male orb-weaving spider kills himself before the female has a chance to. Biologists now believe that the male orb-weaver dies when he turns himself into a plug to prevent other males from copulating, thus ensuring his genes are more likely to live on.

In a new book called ''Y: The Descent of Men,'' Steve Jones, a professor of genetics at University College in London, says males, always a genetic ''parasite,'' have devolved to become the ''second sex.''

The news that Dolly the sheep had been cloned without masculine aid sent a frisson through the Y populace, he writes, because men began to fear that science would cause nature to return to its original, feminine state and men would fade from view.

The Y chromosome, ''a mere remnant of its once mighty structure,'' is worried about size. ''Men are wilting away,'' Dr. Jones writes. ''From sperm count to social status and from fertilization to death, as civilization advances, those who bear Y chromosomes are in relative decline.''

Perhaps that's why men are adapting, becoming more passive and turning into ''metrosexuals,'' the new term for straight men who are feminized, with a taste for facials, grooming products and home design.

Better to be an X chromosome than an ex-chromosome.

E-mail: liberties@nytimes.com
 
Incredible Shrinking Y

By MAUREEN DOWD; THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN IS ON VACATION.
Published: July 9, 2003

Why, oh Y, are men so insecure?

The darlings have been fretting for some years now that they may be rendered unnecessary if women get financial and biological independence, learning how to reproduce and refinance without them. What if nature played a cruel trick and demoted men, so they had to be judged merely by their appearance, pliability and talent for gazing raptly at the opposite sex, no matter how bored?

New research on the Y chromosome shows that my jittery male friends are not paranoid; they are in an evolutionary shame spiral.

As Nicholas Wade wrote in The Times: ''Although most men are unaware of the peril, the Y chromosome has been shedding genes furiously over the course of evolutionary time, and it is now a fraction of the size of its partner, the X chromosome. . . . The decay of the Y stems from the fact that it is forbidden to enjoy the principal advantage of sex, which is, of course, for each member of a pair of chromosomes to swap matching pieces of DNA with its partner.''

Mr. Wade said that biologists in Cambridge, Mass., had made a remarkable discovery: ''Denied the benefits of recombining with the X, the Y recombines with itself.''

The ultimate guys' night out. Simply put, the Y chromosome figured out a Herculean way to save itself from extinction by making an incredibly difficult hairpin turn and swapping molecular material with itself.

Self-love as a survival mechanism: the unflinching narcissism of men may send women into despair at times, but it has saved their sex for the next 5 million or 10 million years.

But, according to Olivia Judson, science's answer to the sensual British cook Nigella Lawson, men may need more than narcissism to survive.

Dr. Judson, a 33-year-old evolutionary biologist at Imperial College in London who has written a book about animals in a Dear Abby style, or Deer Abby, under the pen name Dr. Tatiana, says the worm has turned. ''For a long time, it was assumed that promiscuity was good for males and bad for females in terms of the number of kids they could have,'' she explains. ''But it wasn't until 1988 that it really started to become evident that females were benefiting from having sex with lots of males, with more promiscuous females having more and healthier offspring.''

In her book, Dr. Judson writes about powerful babes, noting that females in more than 80 species, like praying mantises, have been caught devouring their lovers before, during or after mating. ''I'm particularly fond,'' she told me, ''of the green spoon worm. . . . The male is 200,000 times smaller, effectively a little parasite who lives in her reproductive tract, fertilizing her eggs and regurgitating sperm through his mouth.''

And then there's the tiny female midge, who plunges her proboscis into the male midge's head during procreation. As Dr. Judson told the journalist Ken Ringle, ''Her spittle turns his innards to soup, which she slurps up, drinking until she's sucked him dry.''

The Economist recently reported on a variation of the creepy-crawly girl-eats-boy love stories. The male orb-weaving spider kills himself before the female has a chance to. Biologists now believe that the male orb-weaver dies when he turns himself into a plug to prevent other males from copulating, thus ensuring his genes are more likely to live on.

In a new book called ''Y: The Descent of Men,'' Steve Jones, a professor of genetics at University College in London, says males, always a genetic ''parasite,'' have devolved to become the ''second sex.''

The news that Dolly the sheep had been cloned without masculine aid sent a frisson through the Y populace, he writes, because men began to fear that science would cause nature to return to its original, feminine state and men would fade from view.

The Y chromosome, ''a mere remnant of its once mighty structure,'' is worried about size. ''Men are wilting away,'' Dr. Jones writes. ''From sperm count to social status and from fertilization to death, as civilization advances, those who bear Y chromosomes are in relative decline.''

Perhaps that's why men are adapting, becoming more passive and turning into ''metrosexuals,'' the new term for straight men who are feminized, with a taste for facials, grooming products and home design.

Better to be an X chromosome than an ex-chromosome.

E-mail: liberties@nytimes.com

Wow, LT, best post yet! Thanks, I'd missed this Dowd column and I love her stuff :heart:

this part applies to one male right now...

Yup! Nice new siggy, btw... and so true :kiss:
 
this part applies to one male right now...
Hey don't get mad at me. I didn't write this stuff I'm bringing up now.

I'm just pointing out all the shit we dudes have to put up with on a daily basis

shit that you'd raise the fires of hell if it were directed toward you.


So again, why you blamin' me? :eek: I didn't write that crap...
 
I love the picture, thank you....if I ever get an av I might use it.

Yay! I'd be honored...

Don't worry, you'll get an av in no time. Just keep posting, then you'll get an av after posting little over 100 times. I think I got mine at around 105 or so. You can get it in the next hour or sooner if you just start posting like mad....
 
Nice guys finish last...

as in, they finish even far behind men who MURDER their pregnant wives.

Documented fact. Go scream at USA Today if you have a problem with that, lol!!! I bet they're scared now!!!


http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-06-15-peterson-mail_x.htm

Scott Peterson inundated with mail in prison

MODESTO, Calif. (AP) — Scott Peterson, charged with murdering his pregnant wife and their unborn child, is receiving stacks of letters in jail, many of them from women, a newspaper reported Sunday.

A fellow inmate told the Modesto Bee that Peterson's correspondents include a woman serving time for murdering her husband. A guard read the letter aloud, inmate Chris Young said.

Peterson has pleaded innocent to double-murder charges that make him eligible for the death penalty if convicted.

Late last week, a judge issued a gag order barring lawyers, witnesses and police officers from publicly discussing details of the case. Judge Al Girolami said the gag order was the only way to stop leaks and rumors from derailing Scott Peterson's right to a fair trial.

Stanislaus County sheriff's Deputy Tom Letras confirmed that Peterson gets more mail than most inmates, but would not elaborate.

It's not uncommon for young men accused of terrible crimes to receive letters from female admirers, said Jeanette Sereno, a criminal justice professor at California State University, Stanislaus.

"If you don't see him as responsible for the (slayings), he's a very sympathetic young man, someone the whole world is against," Sereno said. "People out there have a need to come to the rescue of someone beleaguered."

Young, 29, also told the newspaper that extra security precautions have been taken at the Stanislaus County jail to ensure Peterson's safety. For instance, inmates on meal duty have been told to select Peterson's trays randomly to avoid poisoning, he said.

Peterson was arrested after his wife's body and the remains of their unborn son washed ashore in San Francisco Bay. He has denied any involvement in his wife's disappearance and said he was out fishing on the bay the day his wife disappeared. His attorneys have suggested a satanic cult may have abducted and killed his wife.
 
Yay! I'd be honored...

Don't worry, you'll get an av in no time. Just keep posting, then you'll get an av after posting little over 100 times. I think I got mine at around 105 or so. You can get it in the next hour or sooner if you just start posting like mad....
I was about to ask how I get one.

Was also about to ask Le Jackalope when the last time he got laid, sounds like he really needs some.
 
I was about to ask how I get one.

Was also about to ask Le Jackalope when the last time he got laid, sounds like he really needs some.

Before Christmas, his name was LovingTongue. Genital to genital sex has never been his interest.
 
More women would fuck this guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Manson

than would fuck a whiny nice guy.



The lesson is, as shown by the cold, hard numbers, if you're a whiny nice guy, you're more deplorable than a man who murders people en masse.


Cold, hard, documented numbers. Now flame THAT as misogynist, dumbasses LOL!!!
 
More women would fuck this guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Manson

than would fuck a whiny nice guy.



The lesson is, as shown by the cold, hard numbers, if you're a whiny nice guy, you're more deplorable than a man who murders people en masse.


Cold, hard, documented numbers. Now flame THAT as misogynist, dumbasses LOL!!!
He is one of the ultimate bad boys, but I don't do drugs so I would have never been around him or his so called family. Plus I was not alive in the 60's.
 
Yet another dude who gets more attention from women than whiny nice guys... ANOTHER MASS MURDERER:

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/ramirez/terror_1.html

The long-haired brunette who longed to be the Night Stalker's bride had first contacted Ramirez after his arrest in 1985 and had written him nearly 75 letters during his incarceration. He finally proposed to her in 1988, but prison rules delayed their wedding. Other women tried to steal him away from her, visiting him in prison and lavished him with all kinds of attention. Doreen often ran into them when she came to for her visits, and at least one woman threatened physical violence if Doreen didn't abandon her claim on the Night Stalker. But Doreen persevered, and in the end she got her man.


Just the facts, people. I know, facts are misogyny.

LOL!!! Now let's bring on the fuckin KEYBOARD JIHAD!!!!!

http://zioneocon.blogspot.com/pal%20girls%20islamic%20jihad%20w%20guns.jpg
 
I'm assuming this thread is just a parody, am I correct? :confused:

No, its a serious thread.

There are some men who see rejection as evidence women are defective. The nice guy/bad boy debate is where they meet to whine.

You can spot the more obvious losers because they like to point out really bad men who have female friends. This is presented as evidence of all women's poor judgment and explains why they keep striking out.
 
No, its a serious thread.

There are some men who see rejection as evidence women are defective. The nice guy/bad boy debate is where they meet to whine.

You can spot the more obvious losers because they like to point out really bad men who have female friends. This is presented as evidence of all women's poor judgment and explains why they keep striking out.

Unreal. He makes female defects look really good compared to anything he's got going for him.
 
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