Why do nice guys finish "LAST"?

why do nice guys finish last

  • Too nice

    Votes: 21 40.4%
  • prefer asshole

    Votes: 12 23.1%
  • too scary

    Votes: 2 3.8%
  • don't know

    Votes: 17 32.7%

  • Total voters
    52
  • Poll closed .
Define "nice guy."

Usually I've found that "nice guy" entails a man who won't usually stand up for himself, tends to avoid rocking boats, and is an easy push over.

Being a "nice guy," I have been classified as stated; but women who do that don't look deep enough.

Speaking for myself, I take a lot before I dish it out, so some women think I won't stand up for myself, which is nonsense. I don't mind rocking the boat, but make it a gentle rock. I probably am a push-over, but that doesn't mean I can be walked on. I'm only a "push over," as long as I decide to be.

Women mistake gentleness, with being wimpy; kindness is suspicious or believed to be feigned.

I think they go for the not so nice guy, and if they get him, they are often sorry.

But that guy comes across as someone who is looked at as one who is tough, ready to defend, won't take any guff, will push rather than let pass, strong. Qualities, which give offspring a better chance at survival, than some one who is less dominant.

I can't blame women for not going for the nice-guy. It's a matter of preserving the species.

While true in long-ago days, though, it is no longer necessary to beat your rival to a pulp, to be a winner. Often women find the not-so-nice guy, turns out to be agressive towards them in an abusive manner. Then they wonder, where is the man who will listen, who will be my sweetheart, who accepts me as I am, who is a true lover--with intimacy of heart and body? The answer is they left that man standing, because they thought the tall, dark, and handsome type; would be the same. Instead, they get one who pushes them, who walks on them, who does just the opposite of what was really wanted.

It's a mistake, to have the nice guy finish last; but that lesson is often learned, too late.

I had a relationship with a woman for many years. She knew I was a "nice guy." One day she pushed too hard and I didn't take it. She was shocked, dismayed, and in tears. She expected me to act as I almost always do. It came as a great surprise to her that beneath the nice guy, is also a strong guy. sometimes it takes a great deal of strength to be a "nice guy." If a woman wants happiness, she should look a little deeper and see if the nice guy is that way, because he is strong.

The biggest hurt I ever received was from a woman who I cared about (& still do) greatly. She dumped me because I was a nice guy. When I asked why she was ending our relationship of many years, she said it was because we made each other so happy, and she just couldn't handle it.

So yes, nice guys finish last. In this case, there were tears from this lady as she broke our relationship. I wasn't very dry-eyed either. Even when a relationship is good and very happy--how can it get too happy? But for her, it did. So go figure...? Will nice guys ever finish where they should? It's up to the woman to decided. --what would this relationship have been like if instead of running away from happiness, she had decided to let it keep continue?
But no, she couldn't handle it and this nice guy, lost. It's too bad some women are afraid of being vulnerable, which also means, she is letting herself be open to being hurt as well as being deeply, loved.
 
Welcome to Lit Hesperus!:kiss: Unfortunately for you, your woman left you, perhaps not because you were a nice guy, there may have been other factors that you weren't aware of. Either way, eventually you will be with a "nice girl" that will appreciate you. I loved your response and I agree with what you said. It's not a turn-on to me to watch two men fight. Some girls get off on that shit but maybe that's the type of girl you wouldn't want to be with anyway.
 
She'll change her ways when she needs a nice guy to take care of her and her kids she's gonna have with those bad boys.

Trust me you don't wanna be there to pick up those pieces.

"Oh my,"

Where would all the lil girls be without all the nice guys coming to save us. What a croc...........I don't know what era you grew up in, that might have been the case back then, but isn't now. I have a degree, a career, and no need for any man to save me in any way.

Le Asshole has it ever crossed your lil closed mind that some females of all ages don't need a man except for sex. That is why the bad boys get all the girls, SEX SEX SEX. They are a lot better sexually, and don't get emotionally attached. Amazing isn't it, the playa attitude form girls, fuck me, then get out of my bed.

When I get ready to be emotionally attached and have a family, I will find the guy for me. I am fully capable emotionally and financially to provide for a child, without the help of a nice guy paying the bills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGx6YXdv_40
 
"Oh my,"

Where would all the lil girls be without all the nice guys coming to save us. What a croc...........I don't know what era you grew up in, that might have been the case back then, but isn't now. I have a degree, a career, and no need for any man to save me in any way.

Le Asshole has it ever crossed your lil closed mind that some females of all ages don't need a man except for sex. That is why the bad boys get all the girls, SEX SEX SEX. They are a lot better sexually, and don't get emotionally attached. Amazing isn't it, the playa attitude form girls, fuck me, then get out of my bed.

When I get ready to be emotionally attached and have a family, I will find the guy for me. I am fully capable emotionally and financially to provide for a child, without the help of a nice guy paying the bills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGx6YXdv_40

Can't argue with most of what you say, other than the idea that bad boys get all the girls because they are better sexually. I may walk away because all you want is sex and I prefer sex with friends (an emotional attachment, I suppose) but that does not define the experience. However, if the one night stand is what turns you on then perhaps that sexual experience does seem better for you at the time, and that may be the difference. Just saying....:rose:
 
That's my point.

Women want men to look after them - they will not reciprocate.

Women want more than they will give.

A man puts out far more than he gets back, in any given relationship. Sure, he gets pussy, but that's assuming her nads are worth more than his - and that assumption is the assumption that chumps make.



Selfishly insecure women want men to look after them.

I don't particularly agree with this postulate. That sounds remarkably defeatist, and a tad too negative a perspective to encompass the broad range of experiences between relationships.

I've no doubt you've reason to believe this (a fact that genuinely makes me feel badly for you), but I've experienced a -vastly- different spectrum of emotions and considerations.

Granted, my own perspective is limited, but I've had the pleasure of dating mostly self-assured and confident women. My past partners, save for a few here or there, were remarkably capable of giving consideration and appreciation in ample doses.

My current partner, thankfully, is a stand-out in this regard; even amongst a laundry list of wonderful women I've had the pleasure to date.

She stands on her own, remains self-motivated, and expresses herself clearly and assertively. So, in that regards, she's become the most attractive partner I've encountered by far.

I think that generalizing anyone by gender is a bit too narrow to be functional.


Edit to Add: You've misquoted me, unfortunately. I meant to suggest that women don't want to have to coddle their men unless they -choose- to, rather than having their hand forced by recognizing their partner is insecure.

This encourages them because they feel they can, in return, be coddled by their man when the situation warrants.

It's a matter of mutual support, growing together, and pushing one another to become stronger, more-capable people. -That's- the kind of partnership, in my experience, -everyone- is searching for.
 
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Can't argue with most of what you say, other than the idea that bad boys get all the girls because they are better sexually. I may walk away because all you want is sex and I prefer sex with friends (an emotional attachment, I suppose) but that does not define the experience. However, if the one night stand is what turns you on then perhaps that sexual experience does seem better for you at the time, and that may be the difference. Just saying....:rose:

I am not really into one night stands, can not say I haven't had a couple, but prefer friends with benefits. In my experience the bad boys have been better sexually.
 
I am not really into one night stands, can not say I haven't had a couple, but prefer friends with benefits. In my experience the bad boys have been better sexually.

Good morning PTK.

Bad boys are in the eye of the beholder. I have never found 2 women who agree on what constitutes a bad boy.
 
Women test men on a constant, ongoing basis. If you start failing these tests, they'll only get tougher and more intense... until she leaves.
If a woman begins to LOSE her ATTRACTION to a man, she'll become uncomfortable and start doing all kinds of strange things... which usually end in her leaving for another man... and it's not uncommon for that man to be an abusive personality whose Sexual Communication causes ATTRACTION.
 
Women test men on a constant, ongoing basis. If you start failing these tests, they'll only get tougher and more intense... until she leaves.
If a woman begins to LOSE her ATTRACTION to a man, she'll become uncomfortable and start doing all kinds of strange things... which usually end in her leaving for another man... and it's not uncommon for that man to be an abusive personality whose Sexual Communication causes ATTRACTION.

Men who are confident in themselves and happy with their lives don't need to constantly complain about women.

People who are always bitching about this and complaining about that are just projecting their own insecurities onto others.

Look within. Make yourself happy and whole and you'll find you'll start attracting quality women & people who reflect your new attitude :heart:
 
It's a simple but important truth.

We are responsible for our own happiness.
 
Good morning PTK.

Bad boys are in the eye of the beholder. I have never found 2 women who agree on what constitutes a bad boy.
Hi, overall that may be true, but basically it is very easy to determine if a guy is a playa or not. To me Playa=Bad Boy.
 
Men who are confident in themselves and happy with their lives don't need to constantly complain about women.

People who are always bitching about this and complaining about that are just projecting their own insecurities onto others.

Look within. Make yourself happy and whole and you'll find you'll start attracting quality women & people who reflect your new attitude :heart:


Your points make sense.
 
Nice guys finish last is a common misconception. Nice guys simply don't finish.

Now if your a murder on death row the pussy starts lining up for you.
 
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