Going Out On a Limb

[Misty_Morning]

If she would run, I'd vote for her. More than that, I'd devote all my efforts to getting her elected.


Condoleezza Rice.

 

[rgraham666]

The woman who was 'disappointed' with Canada because we wouldn't go along with an illegal war? Said it in a teacher's tone. 'I'd expected better of you children.'

The woman who has made it clear that the U.S. doesn't torture, even in the face of much evidence that they do?

Sorry Misty. Ms. Rice is one of the idiots that has torn your lovely country to pieces. Broken its military, ruined its finances, buried the Constitution in a deep grave and stuck a stake in its heart.

I wouldn't vote for her or any of the Vulcans.

 

[pellso27]

OMG Get over it loser. It will go down in history as the best thing to happen to this country, because it has made everyone aware of dipshits like you and the evil of doing nothing! Face it the Muslims that are waging war over there want us, yes including YOU.....DEAD!

 

[Misty_Morning]

I'll stand strong in my beliefs....

IMO she is the most honorable person that deserves to guide this nation.

I said this 3 years ago, and I will keep saying it,

She is MORE deserving than any of the current candidiates.

 

[pellso27]

If she would run, I'd vote for her. More than that, I'd devote all my efforts to getting her elected.


Condoleezza Rice.

I don't look for her to be running even for VP. She seems to be lost these days or maybe I should say focusing on much bigger issues. If she did run for President or VP she would do a great job. I look for McCain and Newt Gingrich to have the Republican ticket.

 

[pellso27]

The woman who was 'disappointed' with Canada because we wouldn't go along with an illegal war? Said it in a teacher's tone. 'I'd expected better of you children.'

The woman who has made it clear that the U.S. doesn't torture, even in the face of much evidence that they do?

Sorry Misty. Ms. Rice is one of the idiots that has torn your lovely country to pieces. Broken its military, ruined its finances, buried the Constitution in a deep grave and stuck a stake in its heart.

I wouldn't vote for her or any of the Vulcans.

You should add this line to your SIG.. resident dumbfuck!

 

[MagicaPractica]

I don't know Misty, there is just something about her that bothers me. I'm not sure exaclty what it is but she seems like too much of a "yes" woman to me. Maybe I'm wrong but I'd take some serious convincing.

 

[rgraham666]

You need only look at Ms. Rice's eyes. Viper eyes. Brrrr.

 

[Oblimo]

Oh, yes. She should run.

I would love to see her private life scrutinized for once.

 

[only_more_so]

If she would run, I'd vote for her. More than that, I'd devote all my efforts to getting her elected.


Condoleezza Rice.

I always thought the Republicans would actually have an easier time getting a minority or a woman elected President than the democrats. Provided said minority and/or woman got the party nomination.

 

[cloudy]

I don't have much respect for her, unfortunately.

She's incredibly smart, but you have to wonder about someone's common sense aligning themselves with Dubya. I wanted to like her, I really did - she's from Alabama, and overcame a lot of things to get to where she is, but....nope. She makes me uneasy as all get out.

Oh, yes. She should run.

I would love to see her private life scrutinized for once.

Indeed. I'm sure shoe shopping while Katrina ravages all the cities on the gulf coast is the least of her vices.

 

[impressive]

I don't have much respect for her, unfortunately.

She's incredibly smart, but you have to wonder about someone's common sense aligning themselves with Dubya. I wanted to like her, I really did - she's from Alabama, and overcame a lot of things to get to where she is, but....nope. She makes me uneasy as all get out.



Indeed. I'm sure shoe shopping while Katrina ravages all the cities on the gulf coast is the least of her vices.

What she said.

 

[sr71plt]

Her portfolio is restricted to international relations (at which she hasn't been phenomenally successful). The fundatmental problems to be addressed keep coming around to being macro economy based. She has no track record here. You'd be voting for her purely on an emotional basis. Might as well vote for yourself.

 

[Liar]

I said this 3 years ago, and I will keep saying it,

She is MORE deserving than any of the current candidiates.

Ok, I'll bite.

Why? What specifically makes her deserving?

 

[keeblercrumb]

You should add this line to your SIG.. resident dumbfuck!

Ahhh... The joy of witty repartee.......

I think just about everyone had high hopes for Ms. Rice... Obliviously brilliant, hard working (and all the things that Cloudy said) but it is hard to look around the international wreckage created in her tenure and desire any more. It is a performance record that even the Republican candidates are running from....

Either she is a big part of the problem or did not honorably resign... either way she hardly deserves of another shot.... and certainly not of even higher office.

But did I read you correctly, you think Newt Gingrich will be the VP pick?

No.... seriously?

I am soooooo jealous of your new sig line, Rob.....

-KC
(aka Resident Dumbfuck 2)

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

Ok, I'll bite.

Why? What specifically makes her deserving?

She's a brilliant and accomplished scholar on international relations. I first noticed her in the early 1990s, in things like seminars broadcast on c-span. She appeared level headed, balanced, very knowledgeable, and insightful. Neither a kumbaya head-in-sand pacifist nor a nuke 'em all hothead.

She should not be tarred with administration policies that she had little role in determining. We won't know her true views on them until after the administration has left and things have played out on the ground. Even after they're out she's too responsible to mouth off and muck up something that people are still in the process of trying to resolve, so it may be a while.

An opponent of this administration might criticize her for associating herself with it. I think that is misguided. She is brilliant, obviously ambitious in an admirable way, and has foreign policy views that are more toward the "realist" school that Republicans tend to favor vs. the Wlsonianism one that Dems tend to favor. Both schools are within the maistream of American thought and tradition, and adhering to one or the other is not disqualifying for anything.

She is in her prime, age-wise, etc. Of course she would go into a GOP administration, and seek as high a position as possible in the foreign policy field. Which she attained - yay her. I think this is a clear example of the cream rising to the top, rather than the scum rising to the top. It's definitely something to be celebrated, and people should step back from their passion about this administration's policies and do so.

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In the political sphere, her lifelong exclusive focus on foreign policy is a legitimate issue to raise. It's not a disqualification, but it would have to be seriously and fully responded to. She might make a terrific Chairwoman of the Foreign Relations Committee, though. Indeed, that is probably the best possible place for her to be.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Condi Rice is a well educated expert on International Relations. However, since she became part of the Bush Administration in his first term, there is a thing called "INTEGRETY" that she seems to lack.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Jesus! People! Get over the 2000 election. He'll be gone in less than a year. Next time nominate a better candidate than Gore.

Oh! Secretary of State is a pretty good gig for a Canadian from Alabama. She'll make a few bucks writing her memoirs, and be as forgotten as every other SoS in American history. I'm reading a book about the War on Terrorism, and it seems to me Condi is clueless about what goes on in her own shop. She's a wonk from academe with no street smarts.

 

[sr71plt]

In the political sphere, her lifelong exclusive focus on foreign policy is a legitimate issue to raise. It's not a disqualification, but it would have to be seriously and fully responded to. She might make a terrific Chairwoman of the Foreign Relations Committee, though. Indeed, that is probably the best possible place for her to be.

What sort of disqualifies her here is that this has been her emphasis, and I can't think of a foreign policy success the whole time she's been at it in the administration. Can you? I'm sure there must be something out there, so I'm not declaring there isn't--they just are very well hidden behind a wall of SNAFUs, if they exist. I don't necessarily blame her personally for how it is--but she isn't quite that brilliant to have stayed around for all of it. Colin Powel was smarter then she is--he jumped the disaster ship altogether.

Let's hear of her government service victories (other than getting good jobs for herself).

You might as well be plugging Kathy Hughes for president on the same "abilities" Condi Rice has exhibited.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

What sort of disqualifies her here is that this has been her emphasis, and I can't think of a foreign policy success the whole time she's been at it in the administration. Can you? I'm sure there must be something out there, so I'm not declaring there isn't--they just are very well hidden behind a wall of SNAFUs, if they exist. I don't necessarily blame her personally for how it is--but she isn't quite that brilliant to have stayed around for all of it. Colin Powel was smarter then she is--he jumped the disaster ship altogether.

Let's hear of her government service victories (other than getting good jobs for herself).

You might as well be plugging Kathy Hughes for president on the same "abilities" Condi Rice has exhibited.

SR, I didn't care much for Powell when he was Secretary of State. He gave up his integraty to follow the Bush Administration line, even in the face of overwhelming evidence that the Bush spin was entirely fiction. But, at least, he had enough left to leave that band of criminals at the end of the first term.

Rice, on the other hand, will swear Bush was right for the rest of her life, even though she knows it's all been a fantastic lie.

 

[matriarch]

You should add this line to your SIG.. resident dumbfuck!

Ye gods, is there any need to be quite so rude??

Sheesh!!

 

[sr71plt]

SR, I didn't care much for Powell when he was Secretary of State. He gave up his integraty to follow the Bush Administration line, even in the face of overwhelming evidence that the Bush spin was entirely fiction. But, at least, he had enough left to leave that band of criminals at the end of the first term.

Rice, on the other hand, will swear Bush was right for the rest of her life, even though she knows it's all been a fantastic lie.

They both compromised integrity to take the jobs they did, I think--although Powell moreso than Rice, because she was already well planted on Bush's coat tails. Powell had more choices to still in the forefront if he wanted to. But Powell did more fighting for principle within the job than Rice has ever done--and he used his opportunities for everyone to know that he wasn't on board with the Cheney-Wolfowitz-Rumsfeld game plans.

 

[oggbashan]

According to a report in today's The Times, Colin Powell considered running for President some years ago but was dissauded by his family because a black President would be a serious target for assassination.

Assassination is a risk all US Presidents and candidates have to consider.

Whether a black President would face a higher risk? I think Powell's family were right to think that assassination was a real possibility.

Some groups in the US are not ready to accept a black President. Some are not ready to accept a woman President. How dangerous some of those groups are - that is a matter for judgement by US citizens.

In the UK our Prime Minister is NOT our Head of State - the Queen is. There have been several planned assassination attempts on her and the Brighton Bombing aimed to kill Margaret Thatcher. However the risks in the UK to the Queen and our Prime Minister are far lower than the risk to a US President.

Og

 

[rgraham666]

I've been saying for months now that the chances of either Obama or Clinton seeing the Oval Office are very poor.

I hope to Christ I'm wrong.

 

[sr71plt]

According to a report in today's The Times, Colin Powell considered running for President some years ago but was dissauded by his family because a black President would be a serious target for assassination.

Assassination is a risk all US Presidents and candidates have to consider.

Whether a black President would face a higher risk? I think Powell's family were right to think that assassination was a real possibility.

Some groups in the US are not ready to accept a black President. Some are not ready to accept a woman President. How dangerous some of those groups are - that is a matter for judgement by US citizens.

In the UK our Prime Minister is NOT our Head of State - the Queen is. There have been several planned assassination attempts on her and the Brighton Bombing aimed to kill Margaret Thatcher. However the risks in the UK to the Queen and our Prime Minister are far lower than the risk to a US President.

Og

Yep, if you can't stand up to the possibility of assassination, running for president isn't something you should consider. I don't think color or gender provide much greater danger.

The best thing you can do is to pick a real clown for vice president. (See any patterns here?)