And I do so.It isn't really a matter of what's legal anyhow. Incest is generally illegal, but it is common here. Certain coercive sex would be illegal some places, but it's okay here, although violent rape would not be. Bestiality is also banned here, although it might not be illegal everywhere.
Those are not complaints, mind you, just observations. If I want to write stories that are forbidden here, I can, and post them elsewhere.
You have got that right, it's definitely not evident on this forum. If you were a good listener, you would have "heard" many of these statements already-- made by people whom you've then attacked for something other than what they've said;
I think several women have already intimated ideas quite like these, already. Including myself.
Many, but certainly not all, and this is not really the issue, is it. The real issue is whether or not adults-- and more specifically, their fathers-- are entitled to presume upon this "lack of innocence."
and that leads you to what conclusion?
many on this thread have characterised the unexpected, and unwilling sexual discovery, forced upon a young girl by an adult-- as having many traumatic effects upon her body and mind. If you're going to shake your finger, try to shake it in the right direction. (Fat chance, I know)
I think you should do that writing. No one will stop you from doing so, Ami. You want it done? Make it your job.
Umm... tentacles?
I didn't say it was incredibly amazing, just rather unusual.
They didn't. I was busy editing them in.
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And that 5% is probably all here
I can't speak for everyone, obviously, but if I were writing pure stroke stories, I really wouldn't need to come here and discuss things like "what would a dispatcher say if there was a murder?" and "what was sex really like in ancient rome?" or even, "Men, what does it really feel like when...." Can we/will we write just stroke stories? Of course. Will we write it on command because Rifraff gets off on it and wants to hear it from us women writers and asks us to do so with clear instructions as to how he wants the fantasy to go? ("painful but rewarding") I didn't say they were--and Nin's a really bad example by the way as, from what she says and does with some of the men in her life, she probably would have enjoyed being a phone prostitute, herself. Still, if Rifraff comes back and says, "I'll give you a $1000 for that story," I and a dozen others here will take him up on it. All writers are whores, though it may not be money that they're after. My point is that he was doing what so many readers do when they come here..."create a fantasy for me, writers...for free. Here's my idea. Ain't it erotic? Write it up like that for me...."
Not at all. Selena's story is evidence against that. BUT there WILL be solidarity in a thread on the subject when a man makes such an assumption ("I imagine it would be painful but rewarding") and that assumption *could* be in regards to reality, not fantasy. I don't say that's what he meant, but the post was fairly ambiguous on that score, and it's not surprising it got a knee-jerk response from women writers (the 5% who tend to do research for their stories) saying, "It isn't rewarding!"
You make some really good points, Dr. M. And I think a lot of it comes down to this. A throw-away stroke story is one thing, but an erotic story where the reader wants to get into the character's head--where they want to know not only how the sex feels but how the character responds to it emotionally and psychologically (like Rifraff's "painful but rewarding"), requires that the writer do what they do best and really imagine themselves in that situation.
And this, too, is an excellent point. We run into a very sticky situation with censorship. We want to say that there should be any at all. Hey, we're writers and we don't want anyone telling us what we can an cannot write. But we often try to have it both ways with writing. We often put our writing on public display because we WANT to move and sway people (and enjoy doing so!), but then someone takes what we write and acts on it and we say, "Hey, it was just a story...."
Mine.
Eh well, let it be a double standard. There's a big difference between an adult who can take part in a real whipping if they so desire, or instigate a "real" rape for themselves. We all have our limits. Mine is in imagining myself, or anyone I'm boinking, to be twelve years old. I just won't do it. *shrug* You can if you wish, Pure, and so can Riff-Raff, and Ami really needs to get himself to work on this important subject that he feels has been neglected.
