Can I post as a complete novel and as serialised in category

[KoraKuros]

I'm working on a novel that will be at least a hundred and forty thousand words. Can I post this as one post it novels category and at the same time release it over time in its category, incest taboo for reads who don't want to deal with all those pages at once. This would mean a reader could switch to the complete work whenever they wanted to. Is this allowed?

Any knowledge on this is welcome.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I'm working on a novel that will be at least a hundred and forty thousand words. Can I post this as one post it novels category and at the same time release it over time in its category, incest taboo for reads who don't want to deal with all those pages at once. This would mean a reader could switch to the complete work whenever they wanted to. Is this allowed?

Any knowledge on this is welcome.

No. The site doesn't allow duplicate entries.

You've got three choices - publish all in one category, publish kink oriented chapters to the applicable category, or publish in Novels and Novellas. My 104k Arthurian myth novel is in Sci-Fi and Fantasy, for example.

 

[EmilyMiller]

I'm working on a novel that will be at least a hundred and forty thousand words. Can I post this as one post it novels category and at the same time release it over time in its category, incest taboo for reads who don't want to deal with all those pages at once. This would mean a reader could switch to the complete work whenever they wanted to. Is this allowed?

Any knowledge on this is welcome.

Nope

You can - I have done it - take a serialized work, collate it, rewrite elements, extend it, and then ask for it to be published as a separate work.

In my case just the word count of the consolidated story was 30% more, and with other changes it was maybe 40 - 50% different.

But you can’t have exactly (or substantially) the same text in two forms.

 

[TheLobster]

I'm working on a novel that will be at least a hundred and forty thousand words. Can I post this as one post it novels category and at the same time release it over time in its category, incest taboo for reads who don't want to deal with all those pages at once. This would mean a reader could switch to the complete work whenever they wanted to. Is this allowed?

Any knowledge on this is welcome.

If the novel is incest-themed, just put it in Taboo/Incest. You will get far, far more engagement than you would in N&N, so much so that the potential views from N&N become negligible in comparison.

It’s also likely that even if you don’t slot it in T/I, the admins will put it there anyway.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

My Uncle Sugar Daddy story is a combined 170K words but I submitted it as separate installments and turned it into a three-part series in the Incest/Taboo category.

It is available on D2D in its original combined novel length, but not on Lit.

 

[ElectricBlue]

It’s also likely that even if you don’t slot it in T/I, the admins will put it there anyway.

Not always. I've got two stories where incest is a secondary theme, and I asked Laurel to put them into my category of choice. She did so, and added an Editor's Note at the top, saying "This story has incest themes."

 

[StrentWriter]

Does this mean my near 100,000 word romance novel should have been in the category novels and not romance…?

 

[TheLobster]

Does this mean my near 100,000 word romance novel should have been in the category novels and not romance…?

Regardless of length, if your story can fit one of the genre/kink categories, it should preferentially go there. N&N is more of a catch-all for longer works that fit into multiple buckets, similar to how EC does the same for shorter works.

The short answer is therefore no.

 

[StrentWriter]

Regardless of length, if your story can fit one of the genre/kink categories, it should preferentially go there. N&N is more of a catch-all for longer works that fit into multiple buckets, similar to how EC does the same for shorter works.

The short answer is therefore no.

I feel a bit better about submitting it there now, thank you.

 

[Rexxblayze]

I have a collection of related stories. Most of my characters are straight with most of the sex being MF and group sex. Two of my bisexual male characters pleasure each other but have no romantic interactions. I don't think of them as 'gay male'. Is there a any other category for their MM interactions? Other than sex with each other, their main things are sex with ladies and voyeuristic adventures.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I have a collection of related stories. Most of my characters are straight with most of the sex being MF and group sex. Two of my bisexual male characters pleasure each other but have no romantic interactions. I don't think of them as 'gay male'. Is there a any other category for their MM interactions? Other than sex with each other, their main things are sex with ladies and voyeuristic adventures.

Expect to take a hit and potentially adverse comments, if you post in any other category than GM. Unfortunately, there's an undercurrent of homophobia on Lit, where the Real Men say, oh no, don't thrust that in my face, I'm not gay. Then they read the chapter twice, to make sure.

In the absence of a bi-sexual category - bewailed and moaned about since 1999, by all accounts - you have to take your chances.

Make sure you tag it, and if you're ultra sensitive about a negative reaction, you could mention it in a short preamble and hope the eww factor readers don't read your story. But they probably will read it, and sling you a lower score because how dare you offend their morality.

Like the anon comment I just got to a story, where the reader liked the story but judged a character for fucking outside a marriage, so gave it a 4 instead of a 5. Clearly, they've never heard of Polyamory, and their morality takes no heed of mine.

 

[PennameWombat]

Does this mean my near 100,000 word romance novel should have been in the category novels and not romance…?

The TheLobster's post is right. If it was a Romance, then it should certainly go into the Romance category. I have some novel length works in First Time and SF&F.

The N&N (Novels and Novellas) category is really for stories that don't have a specific sexual theme that fits into any of the other categories, and lack any of the sexual trumps (e.g., Incest, etc.) And, as Novellas is in the name, they don't have to be "novels." I have two stories in that category that are both solidly in novella length, but both are relatively light in sex (but too much for Non Erotic), and without a sexual theme that fits any other category.

 

[PennyThompson]

In the absence of a bi-sexual category - bewailed and moaned about since 1999, by all accounts

I bet part of the problem is that plenty of Lit readers have absolutely no problem with bisexual content... As long as it's a guy and two girls

We might need two new categories, "Bisexual/Pansexual" and "Bisexual But the Balls Don't Touch"

 

[cw5523729]

I bet part of the problem is that plenty of Lit readers have absolutely no problem with bisexual content... As long as it's a guy and two girls

We might need two new categories, "Bisexual/Pansexual" and "Bisexual But the Balls Don't Touch"

Actually it would need to be limited to just 2 balls maximum.



Preferably on 1 character.

 

[Rexxblayze]

I am new to Lit, but it looks like readers have a wide range of reaction. Why would there be a strong positive reaction to fictional incest and ff sex, but a strong negative reaction to fictional mm sex?

 

[Kelliezgirl]

I am new to Lit, but it looks like readers have a wide range of reaction. Why would there be a strong positive reaction to fictional incest and ff sex, but a strong negative reaction to fictional mm sex?

Men tend to be more uncomfortable with mm sex. Or at least more vocal about their feelings towards it.

 

[cw5523729]

I am new to Lit, but it looks like readers have a wide range of reaction. Why would there be a strong positive reaction to fictional incest and ff sex, but a strong negative reaction to fictional mm sex?

Because that's simply the nature of many straight guys reading porn.

Two girls getting it on: yay!
Two guys getting it on: 1-star and a hate filled review.

Incest is a bit different: if it's in the category for T/I, then it's what people are looking for. Sneaking incest into a story in a different category may well get a negative reaction as well.

 

[YmaOHyd]

I am new to Lit, but it looks like readers have a wide range of reaction. Why would there be a strong positive reaction to fictional incest and ff sex, but a strong negative reaction to fictional mm sex?

The fictional incest crowd filters itself out. There is absolutely a negative reaction to undisclosed incest in stories.

 

[cw5523729]

Full disclosure: I'm one of those straight guys. Call me hypocritical if you like.

Well, I wouldn't give a 1-star bomb or review, I'd just stop reading. But that's mostly because I'm lazy.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Honestly though, if the story you want to write includes that element, just write it.
You're going to get a negative comment?
So what?
Go find your favorite book on any review site.
Someone made negative comments about it.
Life goes on.

Fear of negative comments shouldn't prevent you from writing the story you want.

 

[Rexxblayze]

I guess it's understandable that some might not like certain things. I like most sex, even though some kink does not appeal to me. I like writing stories about all kinds of mm penetration, but dispise anything about men kissing each other.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Full disclosure: I'm one of those straight guys. Call me hypocritical if you like.

Well, I wouldn't give a 1-star bomb or review, I'd just stop reading. But that's mostly because I'm lazy.

I had a male friend explain the phenomenon like this:

If two girls are making out, they aren't doing anything to each other I wouldn't want to be doing with them.

Two guys making out... not my bag.

Made sense to me. I'm sure someone will be along shortly to go on and on about "homophobia" or something, but at the end of the day, it's just another squick some people don't like.

 

[Rexxblayze]

"It's just fiction. It must be. Otherwise, it would not be on the internet." Someone once stated that. But it may be true here.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Why would there be a strong positive reaction to fictional incest and ff sex, but a strong negative reaction to fictional mm sex?

Because it seems many guys here are fragile about their own sexuality and view anything ‘gay’ as something they must avoid at all costs and also be seen to avoid in order to gain the approval of other men (and probably lest it excites them too much).

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Because it seems many guys here are fragile about their own sexuality and view anything ‘gay’ as something they must avoid at all costs and also be seen to avoid in order to gain the approval of other men (and probably lest it excites them too much).

Did I call it or what?