Jumping into the fire ... Should the entire Non-Con category be eliminated?

[Lifestyle66]

So what are you saying is we need to ban trains? I agree wholeheartedly. All the stupid clackety-clackety and they make you wait at those intersections forever while the thing just lumbers on and on. Fucking trains.

And ban pizza, too, since that seems to attract AR-15s!

 

[cw5523729]

At some point, the bird just knocks all the pieces over and flies away, preventing the game from going forward.

That's how I react while playing chess as well, though I can't fly. That'd be awesome if I could though. Whooshing through the sky. What was my point again?

 

[cw5523729]

And ban pizza, too, since that seems to attract AR-15s!

Disagree. Pizza is awesome. If a few people need to die so I can order a large Pepperoni, then so be it.

 

[cw5523729]

Then somebody comes up with the clever idea, "Shoot the pigeon."

No big loss. It was probably going to shit on your car windshield anyway.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Disagree. Pizza is awesome. If a few people need to die so I can order a large Pepperoni, then so be it.

Okay, I see your point.

I went to the extreme of wanting all "PIZZA" banned, when it was just the "pizza place" which might be attracting the AR15s.

So, I can admit when I'm wrong and allow you pizza if it's delivered.

 

[cw5523729]

Okay, I see your point.

I went to the extreme of wanting all "PIZZA" banned, when it was just the "pizza place" which might be attracting the AR15s.

Actually you're still wrong. They opened fire because the place was selling pizza with pineapple. And can you blame them?

 

[al55]

You seem to (deliberately?) misunderstand me. If we need to draw a line for Lit it should be a discussion. This is it. I can't draw the line, because it isn't up to me alone. Do you want me to draw the line for you? Then hereby I ban you from NC.

I have listed the pro NC here for you:
DonaldBelle: It must be popular. (Argument: if it's popular it should exist.)
Levorotatory + OpenMindedMom_MCHL + ICantLeafYou: Less restrictions the better. Don't like, don't read. (Opinions. Deflrction. Argument: if you don't see it it doesn't harm)
Belegon: Less restrictions. (Opinion)
forgotmyantidepressants: Don't like don't read. (Deflection. Argument: if you don't see it it doesn't harm.)
OralAllOver: No reason given.
pink_silk_glove: We're not going to commit crimes if we're exposed to it. (Delection. Argument without base, and clearly false.)
forgotmyantidepressants: I enjoy it. (Opinion)
al55: It is my therapy. Read what you want. People go to other sites. (@al55 if it's your therapy, please get professional help. Self help is rarely the answer if you feel you need therapy for NC) (Opinions. Deflection. Argument: it will always happen, so it shouldn't be banned)
forgotmyantidepressants: No author is responsible for the actions of their readers that resulted from their writings. (Deflection. Argument: we're not responsible.)
alohadave: No reason given.
pink_silk_glove: Not every story glorifies rape. (Deflection. Suggested argument: stories that do not glorify rape are okay)
forgotmyantidepressants: We would need to ban other categories as well. (Deflection. Argument: NC is onay as other categories would be questionable too.)
pink_silk_glove: There's many objectionable things in media. (Deflection. Argument: this is okay because other things are okay.)
forgotmyantidepressants: People would commit heinous acts whether I write it or not. (Deflection. Argument: I have no responsibility for what I write.)
pink_silk_glove: We should ban other things if we ban this thing. (Deflection. Argument: this is okay because other things are okay.)

That's all of them up to that message. A later one I already saw twice is a golden one. "I didn't do it, so it's fine!" As if one person's action can speak for everyone.

I have responded to several of these, but if they were food, I would be starving for actual content. Opinions, deflection and only trying to trip up the ones with actual arguments? Please.

I mean let's take your Hollywood argument. There's agreements on international, country and local level what is acceptable to what for age groups. This is precisely because they can be influential on people. People over those ages aren't suddenly immune. They are simply regarded as being mature enough to not act on it. Research has found that people are more likely to be violent on short term after a violent movie. If it is continuous, it is long term.

I'm asked for documentation. Do we document that kids are happy when they smile? From criminal court cases to frats, it is all over the place. It's about cultures. Streamers, podcasts, news outlets, ads. If you fill someone's world with it, it becomes truth. The Milgram experiment shows that nearly all "normal western people" can commit murder after a short evening. It changes per culture. Conspiracy theories? However outlandish, someone eventually stands with an AR15 in a pizza place. There's a boatload of evidence that if you allow people to create their own culture, someone will act on it.

If you've got some arguments with actual contents, I'll be happy to listen. I've listened to the deflections and even engaged in some. I received empty deflections back. As it stands I think I'm done. My arguments are there. They do not need further defending.

Sorry, just to clarify I don't feel any need to do anything non consensual. What I meant by this was, I enjoy having control over my characters, it gives me some relief from my trauma.

I'm sorry if I offended you, I really didn't mean to get caught up in this debate. I know my writings are extremely dark and I apologize for that, I had hoped that someone could get some enjoyment out of my stories. Usually, the thread in my literature is about the abuse of power. I don't condone the abuse of power, I just point it out in my stories, hoping that someone might find something interesting in my stories.

I just don't think banning an entire genre of literature is right to do. I guess I am just an old fashioned free speech advocate, as long as you don't call for harm to a real person I think there should be no restrictions apart from underage restrictions which are already in place on the site.

I'm from Ireland, but I really value the free speech that my American friends have over there, I have always admired that about the US. I hope it is something that Ireland, and Europe more generally can learn from.

Anyway, I am sorry for getting involved, I was just trying to engage more with the community and didn't mean to get sucked into this debate.

 

[cw5523729]

So, I can admit when I'm wrong and allow you pizza if it's delivered.

Please send my pizza to @M_K_Babalon - they're waiting for carbs before going on their GTA style rampage.

 

[cw5523729]

I'm from Ireland, but I really value the free speech that my American friends have over there, I have always admired that about the US. I hope it is something that Ireland, and Europe more generally can learn from.

Too bad so many of those Americans don't value it

 

[puppett]

no.

 

[Off_base]

Where I live, someone standing in a pizza joint with an AR15 doesn't necessarily mean anything's wrong.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Actually you're still wrong. They opened fire because the place was selling pizza with pineapple. And can you blame them?

Now that's great detective work: It's not all pizza, but just the people going to a place which serves pineapple pizza.

Sounds like "profiling" to me, so we need to revert to broader all "places" which sell pizza and return to ensuring safety with the delivery method.

And if you tell me I'm wrong again, I'll grab my nerf gun, drive to the nearest pizza place, and go "postal"!

(Can I go "postal" at a pizza place? Or does it have to be at a post office?)

 

[DEFCOM5]

A second thread I wil walk away from.

Best advice I saw all day

 

[cw5523729]

Now that's great detective work: It's not all pizza, but just the people going to a place which serves pineapple pizza.

Sounds like "profiling" to me, so we need to revert to broader all "places" which sell pizza and return to ensuring safety with the delivery method.

Why does it have to be delivery? Doesn't anyone pick up their pizza anymore? I'm too cheap to pay for delivery plus a tip when I can drive 10 minutes and just leave with it.
It drives me crazy that I can't go to Taco Bell without watching 5 people pick up DoorDash orders. Just go get your own fucking chalupa people!

And if you tell me I'm wrong again, I grab my nerf gun, drive to the nearest pizza place, and go "postal"!

(Can I go "postal" at a pizza place? Or does it have to be at a post office?)

I believe anyone can go postal at any place

Source: I played the game "Postal" and none of it took place at a post office, nor was the player said to be a postal worker.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Why does it have to be delivery? Doesn't anyone pick up their pizza anymore? I'm too cheap to pay for delivery plus a tip when I can drive 10 minutes and just leave with it.
It drives me crazy that I can't go to Taco Bell without watching 5 people pick up DoorDash orders. Just go get your own fucking chalupa people!



I believe anyone can go postal at any place

Source: I played the game "Postal" and none of it took place at a post office, nor was the player said to be a postal worker.

Thanks for clarifying that.

So, to summarize: I should take my nerf gun which looks like an AR15 when I go pick up my pizza in order to prevent anyone from being raped while reading a story?

Did I get that right? Or is something a little twisted in there?

 

[SimonDoom]

Just go get your own fucking chalupa people!

This would be a good slogan for the counter-revolution.

 

[cw5523729]

Thanks for clarifying that.

So, to summarize: I should take my nerf gun which looks like an AR15 when I go pick up my pizza in order to prevent anyone from being raped while reading a story?

Did I get that right? Or is something a little twisted in there?

SMH -no, you go in with the Nerf gun to prevent people from putting pineapple on your pizza. Geez, how much clearer can I make it?

 

[cw5523729]

This would be a good slogan for the counter-revolution.

If you get t-shirts made up with that printed on it, I want a royalty.

 

[Lifestyle66]

SMH -no, you go in with the Nerf gun to prevent people from putting pineapple on your pizza. Geez, how much clearer can I make it?

Watch it, or you're going to force me to order Taco Bell via Doordash!

 

[cw5523729]

Watch it, or you're going to force me to order Taco Bell via Doordash!

I'd throw a chalupa at you right now if I could so just imagine I did

 

[Lifestyle66]

I'd throw a chalupa at you right now if I could so just imagine I did

So many WORDS and IDEAS!!! I'm so confused.

I don't know how much more I can read before being triggered to ... EATING THAT CHIHUAHUA you're imagining throwing at me!

I know what a chihuahua looks like. I just can't imagine a chalupa right now.

 

[alohadave]

Watch it, or you're going to force me to order Taco Bell via Doordash!

There's nothing like paying $35 for $3 worth of fast food tacos.

 

[Lifestyle66]

There's nothing like paying $35 for $3 worth of fast food tacos.

"He tasks me! He TASKS me!"

 

[cw5523729]

So many WORDS and IDEAS!!! I'm so confused.

I don't know how much more I can read before being triggered to ... EATING THAT CHIHUAHUA you're imagining throwing at me!

Don't worry, someone will be along soon enough to tell you that you aren't allowed to have all those words and ideas because they object to them

I know what a chihuahua looks like. I just can't imagine a chalupa right now.

It's basically a really puffy taco. It's not really that great but it's fun to say.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Why does it have to be delivery? Doesn't anyone pick up their pizza anymore? I'm too cheap to pay for delivery plus a tip when I can drive 10 minutes and just leave with it.
It drives me crazy that I can't go to Taco Bell without watching 5 people pick up DoorDash orders. Just go get your own fucking chalupa people!



I believe anyone can go postal at any place

Source: I played the game "Postal" and none of it took place at a post office, nor was the player said to be a postal worker.

I really don't understand door dashing cheap food. If you are going to pay the door dash fees anyway at least get good food.

And I'm not saying that to attack anyone who likes Taco Bell, it's fine for what it is. Cheap, fast food. But once you add Door Dash into the equation it is neither cheap nor fast.