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MuscularNudity said:
What's the point? They just sit pending anyway
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Lots of stories are getting published -- the vast majority of those being submitted. Yes, it sucks to have one stuck in purgatory, not knowing your fate for seeming ages (I've had one there for almost two months.) There is a recommendation for what to try for those stories, and many people who have stuck stories have managed to get subsequent stories published.

Don't lose hope.
 
I woke up early this morning, and as I was trying to fall asleep again the Plot Bunny visited. The Sorcerer's Apprentice. But because SF&F isn't the best category, I decided that the succubus that the apprentice summons stays inside the summoning circle. E&V all the way!
 
StillStunned said:
I woke up early this morning, and as I was trying to fall asleep again the Plot Bunny visited. The Sorcerer's Apprentice. But because SF&F isn't the best category, I decided that the succubus that the apprentice summons stays inside the summoning circle. E&V all the way!
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Aren't you one of the ones who always suggests write the story that it wants to be?

The only real difference (for me personally as well as the averages) is that E&V gets a lot more views. But it sucks for engagement rates, so you get about as many comments in SF&F. You seem really gun shy about SF&F, so maybe that's not your experience. I know I personally don't care for your swords and sorcery stories (the only writing of yours I don't), but love your E&V stories, so maybe your experience is what you write in each. As an experiment, try writing the story as if it's in E&V, then submit it in SF&F. I think you might be surprised. Unless the views really are what you are after.

Jesus it feels weird to be giving you a suggestion.

I'll certainly read the story wherever it appears.
 
iwatchus said:
Aren't you one of the ones who always suggests write the story that it wants to be?

The only real difference (for me personally as well as the averages) is that E&V gets a lot more views. But it sucks for engagement rates, so you get about as many comments in SF&F. You seem really gun shy about SF&F, so maybe that's not your experience. I know I personally don't care for your swords and sorcery stories (the only writing of yours I don't), but love your E&V stories, so maybe your experience is what you write in each. As an experiment, try writing the story as if it's in E&V, then submit it in SF&F. I think you might be surprised. Unless the views really are what you are after.

Jesus it feels weird to be giving you a suggestion.

I'll certainly read the story wherever it appears.
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There are a couple of things. For one, I think I'm probably a dinosaur compared with most SF&F writers. What I write, on the whole, isn't what the readers there are looking for. But the E&V readers are much more welcoming, in my experience. They'll happily read a supernatural story as long as it satisfies the voyeurism kink.

My scores in both categories are fairly similar, and I usually get similar numbers of comments. But in SF&F I struggle to get more than a few thousand views per story, and E&V I can usually count on getting at least 10k. The votes, too, number in the hundreds rather than the dozens.

Mostly, though, as soon as I decided to go with E&V, the story shaped itself in my mind. It won't be the usual "clueless kid summons a demon and has wild sex". It becomes "will he give into temptation and set the succubus free from the circle?"
 
StillStunned said:
There are a couple of things. For one, I think I'm probably a dinosaur compared with most SF&F writers. What I write, on the whole, isn't what the readers there are looking for. But the E&V readers are much more welcoming, in my experience. They'll happily read a supernatural story as long as it satisfies the voyeurism kink.

My scores in both categories are fairly similar, and I usually get similar numbers of comments. But in SF&F I struggle to get more than a few thousand views per story, and E&V I can usually count on getting at least 10k. The votes, too, number in the hundreds rather than the dozens.

Mostly, though, as soon as I decided to go with E&V, the story shaped itself in my mind. It won't be the usual "clueless kid summons a demon and has wild sex". It becomes "will he give into temptation and set the succubus free from the circle?"
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I see about a factor of four between the categories for views, so that feels about right. I actually get similar vote totals, but it might slightly lower.

As a reader, I think you do write very differently for the two categories. I suspect, maybe subconsciously, you push a story you think of as SF&F into the bucket in your mind for what you think SF&F shou;d be. That's why I was saying write it for E&V, even it you don't publish it there.

SF&F sucks for getting many views. (It's actually middle of the road if you look at all 33 categories, but some are really dead.) That's indisputable. But having more good stories there might actually help it. And a story you wrote for E&V with magic in it would be a boon to it (and won't be more than a blip in uncaring sea that is E&V).

When you publish this (and don't just feed this to your WIP monster) and that drop down is on the screen, think about gifting it to a different category.
 
iwatchus said:
SF&F sucks for getting many views. (It's actually middle of the road if you look at all 33 categories, but some are really dead.) That's indisputable. But having more good stories there might actually help it. And a story you wrote for E&V with magic in it would be a boon to it (and won't be more than a blip in uncaring sea that is E&V).

When you publish this (and don't just feed this to your WIP monster) and that drop down is on the screen, think about gifting it to a different category.
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I have 25 stories in SF&F. Surely they can't all be that bad?

If I write differently for SF&F, it's because those stories are more plot-driven. And as I've said a few times here, plotting isn't my strength. In my other stories, I probably have a lot more introspection, but also much less actual story. But I write SF&F to tell stories of adventures, and that's mostly because those are what I'd want to read.

As it is, the focus of this story will be on the succubus putting on a show to tempt the narrator. If it was about a demon escaping and the apprentice having to capture her, then I'd probably put it in SF&F, but then the focus would be on the action, not on his inner conflict.

Or maybe I'll just add some bum stuff and stick it in Anal...
 
StillStunned said:
I have 25 stories in SF&F. Surely they can't all be that bad?

If I write differently for SF&F, it's because those stories are more plot-driven. And as I've said a few times here, plotting isn't my strength. In my other stories, I probably have a lot more introspection, but also much less actual story. But I write SF&F to tell stories of adventures, and that's mostly because those are what I'd want to read.

As it is, the focus of this story will be on the succubus putting on a show to tempt the narrator. If it was about a demon escaping and the apprentice having to capture her, then I'd probably put it in SF&F, but then the focus would be on the action, not on his inner conflict.

Or maybe I'll just add some bum stuff and stick it in Anal...
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I have only tried reading three of them. None of which I thought were that good. I think I only finished one. Just not my taste. Maybe I have chosen poorly there, but I avoid your SF&F now. I would love a suggestion for one you think is especially good.

EDIT: I looked back over your list. I did love Fairytale of New York. Maybe it is just trying to write more of a plot.

But you really do feel like two different writers to me. One I absolutely idolize and one that's just okay. And my first sense was it was category based, but I am doubting that.

Someday, maybe you will actually follow your advice on butts.

And I have probably distracted this thread enough.
 
StillStunned said:
I woke up early this morning, and as I was trying to fall asleep again the Plot Bunny visited. The Sorcerer's Apprentice. But because SF&F isn't the best category, I decided that the succubus that the apprentice summons stays inside the summoning circle. E&V all the way!
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I feel like there's suddenly so many succubi around. I've got a story about it as well, where the guy goes into the summoning circle to strike a bargain. It's about trust. No one would strike a deal with a demon if you can't trust it. Then again, can you? And he does need to go inside, as she can't perform her end of the bargain without first doing what succubi do best.

I've partly written my third attempt.

I've found some of my old stories. Not everything was lost with my previous phone. So I'm checking if one I particularly like where the rules of games are the leading threads in the story. At a sex addiction clinic no one has sex, or they are sent away. It all goes well until someone starts having sex with the women. They try to find out who it is, retaliating themselves and getting men removed, hoping that the next night none of their fellow women is sent home, having bumped off the culprit.

The Dark Fairytale has it's rough draft finished. I'm rereading it at times, adding and cutting.

Right now I've picked up a few shorter stories, where (super)heroes are thwarted by the erotism of the villains. It is nice to finally finish something again, instead of never being satisfied with the bigger stories. The investment is so big I request quality of myself I can't yet deliver. As for the short stories, first up is one where a spy seduces one of the higher up women in a criminal organisation, biting off more than he can chew. His own weapon used against him.
 
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