Fuck The Farmers.

[Lazaran]

Here’s my official stance. It’s more substantive than anything I’ve ever heard from your elk and I’ve repeatedly said to the previous idiots such as yourself:

I’m frustrated with libertarians, green partiers, and independents. IMO, money is the obstacle for a 3rd party and that manifests itself in money being a legalized form of speech, corporations considered as people, and no foreseeable plan for campaign finance reform. This suffocates appealing to your constituents. One of the two parties advocates for this though, yes, both reap corporate donations.
Rank choice voting is, imo, the most immediate and viable way for those with alternative voices to gain influence. I’ve seen no republican keen to this type of voting or a change in our monetized voting system. So, instead of trying to build from the bottom up and be crushed, as a democrat, I suggest those with an independent streak use the already established D party. Be a parasite. The process may be slow but take a cue from Christian conservatives and the federalist society and have a long term plan as they did for the Supreme Court. None of the things greenies or independents want to accomplish have a starting point or welcoming ear in the Republican Party. Leech off of the Democratic Party or continue off in the distance being a fallen tree in the forest. Here, on this board and in the public body, it is quite apparent being contrarian for the sake of selfishness is better than actually getting anything done.

You have saved me a fuckton of typing today by saying everything I would have posted in rebuttal to that "third party" imbecile (who could very well be a Jihadist / Russian sympathizer troll).

Thanks for that ^.



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[icanhelp1]

Trump's destruction of your political party is going to improve the United States significantly, although he has adopted enough democratic party policies that his presidency will be a net negative. At least that's my read on it.

This whole thread is about how liberal Americans hate their own farmers. You're doomed to step on rakes forever with strategies like this, no matter what your opposition is. You've made your own farmers your enemy. Obnviously you're going to lose. There's no point even feeling any kind of way about it. Your political party has been infiltrated by people who seek to destroy it. That's why you're constantly pursuing self-destructive strategies that make everyone around you hate you. You're being set up by people within your own party. The reason they're doing this to you is that they want the real ideals the party used to represent--equality and equity, better wealth distribution, post-racial society--they're training the American people to treat these ideas with contempt. And you're playing into it with this lesser-evil stuff.

I don't know what all this islamophobic stuff about Muslims in Michgan is meant to accomplish. Obviously I'm not a muslim in Michigan. You have a very peculiar way of communicating. The fact no one normal knows what pro-war liberals are talking about from one moment to the next is yet another reason you and your political allies are permanently fucked.

Farmers aren't stupid but like many working class group they've become dependent on government subsidies and bail outs. Farmers need to do what company CEOs have to do. Adjust to market conditions, plan for diversity and product change, do global searches for other markets and most importantly learn to forecast and plan for impending hardships and change accordingly.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

It’s more substantive than anything I’ve ever heard from your elk and I’ve repeatedly said to the previous idiots such as yourself:

 

[epicstretch]

You k

Farmers aren't stupid but like many working class group they've become dependent on government subsidies and bail outs. Farmers need to do what company CEOs have to do. Adjust to market conditions, plan for diversity and product change, do global searches for other markets and most importantly learn to forecast and plan for impending hardships and change accordingl

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...no elk in Australia not sure your point here working class ?? At least we work we leave our land better than it was ..you just don't know much at all ....where do you get your food from ?? Do you think it magically grows on supermarket shelves ?? Enjoy living in the city !

 

[Bn2f]

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Yes, I said elk. I've also said Noble Prize.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

You k

Bn2f said he’s been hearing from Lombardi’s “elk.” Apparently elk are allowed on this site.

 

[Bn2f]

Bn2f said he’s been hearing from Lombardi’s “elk.” Apparently elk are allowed on this site.

This is a strange flex to come at me with. Is raindear wrong too?

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

This is a strange flex to come at me with. Is raindear wrong too?

Yes

 

[Bn2f]

As in us we me I am a farmer ..if we go it's crickets and aborted baby lab grown meat for you city folk !

Most everyone has an occupation they are proud of. You obviously do too.
However, as it relates to this thread, you won't be getting a 'thank you for your service' from me if you voted trump.
You're a fucking idiot for doing so and, despite your condescending lecturing to city folk, it is YOU who have forgotten the give and take relationship between the two. Name a large metropolitan city and I guarantee it is blue. Yes, you provide food, but they buy it as well as it is their tax dollars bailing your ass out when trump stabs you in the back. Nay! When Repubs you continually vote for stab you because fuckin Farm Aid is a thing that’s been going on long before trump came around to fuck you up the ass.

 

[epicstretch]

Yes

Baby boomers are the most programmed delusional generation no idea of hard times

 

[epicstretch]

Most everyone has an occupation they are proud of. You obviously do too.
However, as it relates to this thread, you won't be getting a 'thank you for your service' from me if you voted trump.
You're a fucking idiot for doing so and, despite your condescending lecturing to city folk, it is YOU who have forgotten the give and take relationship between the two. Name a large metropolitan city and I guarantee it is blue. Yes, you provide food, but they buy it as well as it is their tax dollars bailing your ass out when trump stabs you in the back. Nay! When Repubs you continually vote for stab you because fuckin Farm Aid is a thing that’s been going on long before trump came around to fuck you up the ass.

Hey you inbred low IQd freak I'm an Aussie I don't vote for your left right paradigm fake actor politicsians ...and captain half sucked tiktak mini cock ...why aren't you up against bill gates who owns more farmland than any farming corp in the USA ..he is not going to feed the people he is doing so so people eat his toxic fake foods do your research those farmlands will be turned into desolate data storage centres and fake renewables like Chinese made lithium mined wind turbines and solar fields all with a very short shelf life your so far gone in your dot connecting, cognitive dissonance, delusional mental illness that you should shut your fucking mouth and take Trump's booster shots dipshit .......you have no idea how stupid I can make you feel on this space so go back to your watching the view you fuckwit!! Don't mess with high IQ'd Australians in the top 3% IQ ..I'm Mensa ...your retarded ...so move on and eat your crickets and blow up in your grubby lithium mining short life land filling Tesla ..the .world doesn't need your type ..comprendo ?...fuck off !

 

[epicstretch]

Don't bring your mental disability to a truther battle I'll grind you into the dust with truth ...mr"..woopi Goldberg and greta thunberg told me so ..so it must be true " fuck off you brain damaged inbred wanker !!

 

[epicstretch]

Most everyone has an occupation they are proud of. You obviously do too.
However, as it relates to this thread, you won't be getting a 'thank you for your service' from me if you voted trump.
You're a fucking idiot for doing so and, despite your condescending lecturing to city folk, it is YOU who have forgotten the give and take relationship between the two. Name a large metropolitan city and I guarantee it is blue. Yes, you provide food, but they buy it as well as it is their tax dollars bailing your ass out when trump stabs you in the back. Nay! When Repubs you continually vote for stab you because fuckin Farm Aid is a thing that’s been going on long before trump came around to fuck you up the ass.

I'm not even an American you bike seat sniffing pedo !! You have no relevance in reality !! Go plug a time walz manpon up your ass again and shove one in your mouth while your at it !!!...next .....?

 

[epicstretch]

You have saved me a fuckton of typing today by saying everything I would have posted in rebuttal to that "third party" imbecile (who could very well be a Jihadist / Russian sympathizer troll).

Thanks for that ^.



We. Told. Them. So.

Well said respect !

 

[YDB95]

I don't think people are going to bother to parse why it is exactly that you and your ilk are telling American farmers to go fuck themselves. They're going to respond instinctively to that kind of messaging, and that's why that's the kind of messaging Democratic handlers encourage people like you to propagate.

You phrase that in the future tense, as if farmers would otherwise be open to voting for Democrats. The whole point of this thread is, they already aren't! For decades, it's the Democrats who've propped them up with everything from rural electrification back in the '30s to bailouts every time the Republicans have trashed the economy since then...but they always vote about 80% for Republicans, usually in the name of what they call "freedom", which in reality translates to freedom for the billionaires to run roughshod over everyone else. So what we're saying is, you voted for it, you got it. No more farm subsidies, no more economic policies that would actually help Americans, no more FEMA when there's a cold snap and your cattle freeze to death - you asked for it, you got it, Toyota!

And yeah, they probably will find a way to blame the Democrats. But since that's already what they're doing, it's not a net loss for us.

Green Party voters are dumb and stupid as long as America has a two party system. You’ve had plenty of chances to explain your position and you haven’t. Instead, you found the time to be critical of one and giving no real pushback on the other. That’s typical of the other members claiming Green Party independence. Even if you could describe your position for voting green you have nada none no wins or change in politics to tout. What’s your name again? I’ve already forgotten you.

Everyone knows why they call it the GREEN Party: Get Republicans Elected Every November.

It called free market trading and capitalism. Handing out freebeeze is not. USAID and Snap are two of the must corrupt programs in existence.

And farming subsidies? Hard to imagine anything more antithetical to the free market than those.

 

[Bn2f]

I'm not even an American you bike seat sniffing pedo !! You have no relevance in reality !! Go plug a time walz manpon up your ass again and shove one in your mouth while your at it !!!...next .....?

Oh, so you're here defending farmers that you know nothing about. You're in Australia?
Crickey! I wasted a good post on you. FYI I do love the food you provide to Outback restaurants!

 

[Buffalogurl]

Am I wrong about the farmers or am I wrong about your cuckold ass?

Here's a fucking challenge for you ......(being farmers are so fucking stupid)...... try and grow, raise and plan for an entire year of food production........report back on your accomplishments..... I fucking dare you.......hint.... you'll starve ......

 

[Bn2f]

Here's a fucking challenge for you ......(being farmers are so fucking stupid)......

Left leaning members are describing their disgust with farmers for how they vote.
RW’s are expressing their disgust for farmers.

try and grow, raise and plan for an entire year of food production........report back on your accomplishments..... I fucking dare you.......hint.... you'll starve ......

Well, granted you use mason jars to make jam, here where I live we use it for its God intended purpose - for drinking moonshine.
Also, I don't have to plan all that for a year, my family and I budget all the time and so do many others. I do not need to see soil beneath my fingertips to provide for my family. You and epic are working hard to make farming seem like a higher calling than other jobs. t would sound awful stupid if I asked you to prove yourself by working a shift at the my nuclear power plant.

 

[Lazaran]

You phrase that in the future tense, as if farmers would otherwise be open to voting for Democrats. The whole point of this thread is, they already aren't! For decades, it's the Democrats who've propped them up with everything from rural electrification back in the '30s to bailouts every time the Republicans have trashed the economy since then...but they always vote about 80% for Republicans, usually in the name of what they call "freedom", which in reality translates to freedom for the billionaires to run roughshod over everyone else. So what we're saying is, you voted for it, you got it. No more farm subsidies, no more economic policies that would actually help Americans, no more FEMA when there's a cold snap and your cattle freeze to death - you asked for it, you got it, Toyota!

And yeah, they probably will find a way to blame the Democrats. But since that's already what they're doing, it's not a net loss for us.


Everyone knows why they call it the GREEN Party: Get Republicans Elected Every November.


And farming subsidies? Hard to imagine anything more antithetical to the free market than those.

I love it when someone really gets it.



Fuck the farmers.



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Bn2f]

I'm not even an American you bike seat sniffing pedo !! You have no relevance in reality !! Go plug a time walz manpon up your ass again and shove one in your mouth while your at it !!!...next .....?

Here's a fucking challenge for you ......(being farmers are so fucking stupid)...... try and grow, raise and plan for an entire year of food production........report back on your accomplishments..... I fucking dare you.......hint.... you'll starve ......

It's funny how I have clearly stated that I hate how farmers vote and insult them because of that specific thing and you take offense.
When these are the most hateful comments said towards farmers and they were all said by right wing nut job trumpers.

Perhaps we have too many farmers?

We should stop subsidizing them.

farmers need to sell their farms to corporate America - the days of being a farmer are like the days of being a blacksmith ....

Farming is just like any other business. Mom & Pop shops can't compete and should sell

And you walk right on by these to come after sweet and innocent lil ol me.

 

[Buffalogurl]

Well, granted you use mason jars to make jam, here where I live we use it for its God intended purpose - for drinking moonshine.
Also, I don't have to plan all that for a year, my family and I budget all the time and so do many others. I do not need to see soil beneath my fingertips to provide for my family. You and epic are working hard to make farming seem like a higher calling than other jobs. t would sound awful stupid if I asked you to prove yourself by working a shift at the my nuclear power plant.

No, the deference is I don't need your nuclear power plant, you however need to eat, no matter what you need us farmers and ranchers...... because you can't feed yourself or your family from what you raise nor do you have the skill and knowledge it takes let alone providing your own water ..... on my side of things, I produce my own electricity, preserve my food, raise my livestock and process the meat..... oh yes, and distill my own alcohol......

 

[epicstretch]

No, the deference is I don't need your nuclear power plant, you however need to eat, no matter what you need us farmers and ranchers...... because you can't feed yourself or your family from what you raise nor do you have the skill and knowledge it takes let alone providing your own water ..... on my side of things, I produce my own electricity, preserve my food, raise my livestock and process the meat..... oh yes, and distill my own alcohol......

Absolutely your a wise soul feel sorry for the city folk who think food magically appears on shelves

 

[cumchucker69]

So I just finished watching an in depth report from PBS Newshour (as one would, because PBS Newshour is the best) about farmers and how much they are suffering from current trade policies & tariffs, etc, and a farmers union rep had the nerve to say farmers are suffering “through no fault of their own”…despite farmers voting OVERWHELMINGLY for DonOld & the MAGAt republicans…

Fuck that ^, Fuck that farmers union rep, Fuck farmers, and Fuck DonOld & the MAGAt republicans.



That is all.



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Farmers don't have Union reps.
They are owner operators and t when they die, after taxes the person who trust to keep the farm going only gets 25% of what he inherited.
They tend to get sold out to corporate interests because of that.

 

[Lazaran]

I produce my own electricity, preserve my food, raise my livestock and process the meat..... oh yes, and distill my own alcohol......

Buffy does NONE of those things without products from the global manufacturing & supply chain that runs through urban centers.

And Buffy has benefited from the global manufacturing & supply chain that runs through urban centers their entire life - JUST LIKE BUFFY’S PARENTS AND ANCESTORS DID.



Buffy



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[epicstretch]

Farmers don't have Union reps.
They are owner operators and t when they die, after taxes the person who trust to keep the farm going only gets 25% of what he inherited.
They tend to get sold out to corporate interests because of that.

Exactly these people are so delusional ..no farms means genocide via starvation look at what happened in Zimbabwe the white farmers who grew it all were killed and woops a daisy the people who liked them starved ....