Western Civilization Depends On Men And Masculinity

[Rightguide]

October 22, 2025

Western Civilization Depends on Men and Masculinity​

By Mark Keenan

For centuries, men built and defended Western civilization -- from its farms and cities to its laws, its art, and its moral order. But in just a few generations, that foundation has been shaken. Masculinity, once honored as the engine of strength, protection, and leadership, is now treated as a social problem. The very qualities that sustained families, communities, and nations are being redefined as “toxic.” Today, masculinity itself is treated as something to be “reformed” or “re-educated.” What happened? How did the very qualities that built the modern world become objects of suspicion and ridicule?
The truth is simpler: Western civilization depends on men and masculinity -- and it cannot survive without them.​

The Quiet War on Manhood​

Since the mid-20th century, Western culture has undergone an ideological shift that redefined traditional masculinity as something outdated, even dangerous. The cultural shifts of the 1960s promised liberation but gradually replaced personal responsibility and family order with self-gratification and state dependence. Where strong families once formed the backbone of the West, an alliance of ideological radicalism and excessive consumerism has turned both men and women into disconnected individuals -- easier to manipulate, easier to control.

This erosion of masculine identity didn’t happen by accident. It was shaped through decades of social conditioning that cast male authority as oppressive, fatherhood as optional, and discipline as cruelty. In recent years, even government agencies have launched programs to ‘redefine’ masculinity, echoing language once confined to activist circles. The result is a culture where men are encouraged to suppress their natural instincts -- their drive to lead, protect, and provide -- in favor of emotional conformity. The modern man is expected to apologize for being male.

https://www.americanthinker.com/art...ilization_depends_on_men_and_masculinity.html

No truer words have been spoken.​

 

[Bn2f]

It sounds as if someone here has gotten so fed up with the female species that they have tried to actually procreate with themselves. Tell us, how did it go?

 

[ll74]

Lol

Women and men are both needed in society. And all kinds of people drive different aspects of society.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

October 22, 2025

Western Civilization Depends on Men and Masculinity​

By Mark Keenan

For centuries, men built and defended Western civilization -- from its farms and cities to its laws, its art, and its moral order. But in just a few generations, that foundation has been shaken. Masculinity, once honored as the engine of strength, protection, and leadership, is now treated as a social problem. The very qualities that sustained families, communities, and nations are being redefined as “toxic.” Today, masculinity itself is treated as something to be “reformed” or “re-educated.” What happened? How did the very qualities that built the modern world become objects of suspicion and ridicule?
The truth is simpler: Western civilization depends on men and masculinity -- and it cannot survive without them.​

The Quiet War on Manhood​

Since the mid-20th century, Western culture has undergone an ideological shift that redefined traditional masculinity as something outdated, even dangerous. The cultural shifts of the 1960s promised liberation but gradually replaced personal responsibility and family order with self-gratification and state dependence. Where strong families once formed the backbone of the West, an alliance of ideological radicalism and excessive consumerism has turned both men and women into disconnected individuals -- easier to manipulate, easier to control.

This erosion of masculine identity didn’t happen by accident. It was shaped through decades of social conditioning that cast male authority as oppressive, fatherhood as optional, and discipline as cruelty. In recent years, even government agencies have launched programs to ‘redefine’ masculinity, echoing language once confined to activist circles. The result is a culture where men are encouraged to suppress their natural instincts -- their drive to lead, protect, and provide -- in favor of emotional conformity. The modern man is expected to apologize for being male.

https://www.americanthinker.com/art...ilization_depends_on_men_and_masculinity.html

No truer words have been spoken.​

The decline of traditional masculinity led to the election a weak playboy as President.

 

[Chadrone]

October 22, 2025

Western Civilization Depends on Men and Masculinity​

Western civilization is over bud....

 

[Chadrone]

Lol

Women and men are both needed in society. And all kinds of people drive different aspects of society.

Society and civilzation are not the same.

All different kinds of societies have existed and never bulit a civilization.

 

[Chadrone]

The decline of traditional masculinity led to the election a weak playboy as President.

And the most intolerant and hateful women can't even stand that.........western women HATE men on a level that's not even really describeable. They literally want their fathers, brothers and sons to be castred and feminized to the extinction of the species. They literally celebrate murdering their own offspring they hate white people SO much.

Especially the white ones. IDK what it is but middle class to rich white women hate men on such a deep level it's WILD. And they either don't realzie it or are in total denial about it.....TOTAL denial. LIke democrats or confused MAGA's who haven't realized they are MAGA's yet like IL74..... pretending Dems are the most pro-2A and hardcore border hwaks that ever were!!

 

[Bn2f]

And the most intolerant and hateful women can't even stand that.........western women HATE men on a level that's not even really describeable. They literally want their fathers, brothers and sons to be castred and feminized to the extinction of the species.

Especially the white ones. IDK what it is but middle class to rich white women hate men on such a deep level it's WILD.

Heeeeiy!
Why’d ya skip over me, huh, Chad, why? Lol.

 

[ll74]

Society and civilzation are not the same

I never said they were.

All different kinds of societies have existed and never bulit a civilization.

Lol

 

[Chadrone]

Heeeeiy!
Why’d ya skip over me, huh, Chad, why? Lol.

Because you're boring. Now run along to lick some womans pumps and tell her what a good little male feminist you are.

 

[Chadrone]

I never said they were.

Then why bring up society in response to a statement about civilization??

 

[Bn2f]

And the most intolerant and hateful women can't even stand that.........western women HATE men
Especially the white ones. IDK what it is but middle class to rich white women hate men on such a deep level it's WILD.

I don’t think that you’re giving women their evolutionary due in practicing natural selection and skipping over yer dumb ass to mate with fitter, more intelligent males than you. But hey, don’t trust me or Darwin on this - it’s clearly explained at the beginning of the movie Idiocracy.

 

[ll74]

Then why bring up society in response to a statement about civilization??

Because I wanted to.

 

[eric_erosfan]

And the most intolerant and hateful women can't even stand that.........western women HATE men on a level that's not even really describeable. They literally want their fathers, brothers and sons to be castred and feminized to the extinction of the species. They literally celebrate murdering their own offspring they hate white people SO much.

Especially the white ones. IDK what it is but middle class to rich white women hate men on such a deep level it's WILD. And they either don't realzie it or are in total denial about it.....TOTAL denial. LIke democrats or confused MAGA's who haven't realized they are MAGA's yet like IL74..... pretending Dems are the most pro-2A and hardcore border hwaks that ever were!!

 

[Rightguide]

The decline of traditional masculinity led to the election a weak playboy as President.

On the contrary, it led to the election of Bathhouse Barry Obama and Joe "The Neutered" Biden.

 

[MythicMind]

I lived in the Bay Area for a decade, a mecca of left wing feminism, and I never once heard a woman say that discipline, leadership, or protectiveness are "toxic". What I have heard is, stop beating up women and kids. Stop using greater authority and strength to coerce women into sex. Stop passing laws and policies that treat women as second class citizens. Stop trying to prevent women from leading the lives they want to lead on their own terms. Certainly you aren't claiming that those behaviors are required to uphold Western civilization or its "moral order"—right?

When you ignore what women are actually asking for and replace it with vague complaints about "discipline" or "leadership", you are merely advertising a weak, grievance-filled insecurity about your place in the world. If you can't express leadership, discipline, or protection without provoking gratuitous pain and fear in people weaker than you, then the problem is definitely not women.

 

[Rightguide]

Western civilization is over bud....

Not quite, that’s the kind of lazy fatalism civilizations survive in spite of. Western civilization isn’t over; it’s being tested, and history tends to bury the ones who confuse simple transition with extinction.

 

[Rightguide]

I lived in the Bay Area for a decade, a mecca of left wing feminism, and I never once heard a woman say that discipline, leadership, or protectiveness are "toxic". What I have heard is, stop beating up women and kids. Stop using greater authority and strength to coerce women into sex. Stop passing laws and policies that treat women as second class citizens. Stop trying to prevent women from leading the lives they want to lead on their own terms. Certainly you aren't claiming that those behaviors are required to uphold Western civilization or its "moral order"—right?

When you ignore what women are actually asking for and replace it with vague complaints about "discipline" or "leadership", you are merely advertising a weak, grievance-filled insecurity about your place in the world. If you can't express leadership, discipline, or protection without provoking gratuitous pain and fear on people weaker than you, then the problem is definitely not women.

Please, spare us the sermon. No one’s defending abusers or coercion; that’s just your strawman gasping for air. The point is that your version of “empowerment” redefines every masculine virtue as a threat, then wonders why men retreat from leadership altogether. Civilization doesn’t collapse because women speak; it collapses because men stop believing their strength has any moral purpose or just result.

 

[Bn2f]

Not quite, that’s the kind of lazy fatalism civilizations survive in spite of. Western civilization isn’t over; it’s being tested, and history tends to bury the ones who confuse simple transition with extinction.

Then why bring up society in response to a statement about civilization??

 

[MythicMind]

Please, spare us the sermon.

Your entire post is a sermon, and a sour one at that. I provided corrective data and the observation that your post is vague and inaccurate in regards to what women are actually asking for. You could have chosen to provide details, but instead you simply doubled down on the ideological claptrap. And so, here's another chance: please list the *exact* behaviors that are non-oppressive and non-cruel that you believe (a) only men provide, (b) are required for "Western civilization", and (c) are actively being repressed. I'm curious to see what you think those might be.

 

[DeluxAuto]

October 22, 2025

Western Civilization Depends on Men and Masculinity​

By Mark Keenan

For centuries, men built and defended Western civilization -- from its farms and cities to its laws, its art, and its moral order. But in just a few generations, that foundation has been shaken. Masculinity, once honored as the engine of strength, protection, and leadership, is now treated as a social problem. The very qualities that sustained families, communities, and nations are being redefined as “toxic.” Today, masculinity itself is treated as something to be “reformed” or “re-educated.” What happened? How did the very qualities that built the modern world become objects of suspicion and ridicule?
The truth is simpler: Western civilization depends on men and masculinity -- and it cannot survive without them.​

The Quiet War on Manhood​

Since the mid-20th century, Western culture has undergone an ideological shift that redefined traditional masculinity as something outdated, even dangerous. The cultural shifts of the 1960s promised liberation but gradually replaced personal responsibility and family order with self-gratification and state dependence. Where strong families once formed the backbone of the West, an alliance of ideological radicalism and excessive consumerism has turned both men and women into disconnected individuals -- easier to manipulate, easier to control.

This erosion of masculine identity didn’t happen by accident. It was shaped through decades of social conditioning that cast male authority as oppressive, fatherhood as optional, and discipline as cruelty. In recent years, even government agencies have launched programs to ‘redefine’ masculinity, echoing language once confined to activist circles. The result is a culture where men are encouraged to suppress their natural instincts -- their drive to lead, protect, and provide -- in favor of emotional conformity. The modern man is expected to apologize for being male.

https://www.americanthinker.com/art...ilization_depends_on_men_and_masculinity.html

No truer words have been spoken.​

Is there anything on this planet that doesn't threaten your fragile masculinity?

 

[Bn2f]

Your entire post is a sermon, and a sour one at that. I provided corrective data and the observation that your post is vague and inaccurate in regards to what women are actually asking for. You could have chosen to provide details, but instead you simply doubled down on the ideological claptrap. And so, here's another chance: what *exact* behaviors that are non-oppressive and non-cruel that you believe (a) only men provide, (b) are required for "Western civilization", and (c) are actively being repressed. I'm curious to see what you think those might be.

Impressive world class beatdown you’re giving. Yes, though you’re asking earnest questions, this certainly is going to get you a deserved RG iggy.

 

[Lance_Castro]

I have a very large penis.

 

[DraggonStone]

Please, spare us the sermon. No one’s defending abusers or coercion; that’s just your strawman gasping for air. The point is that your version of “empowerment” redefines every masculine virtue as a threat, then wonders why men retreat from leadership altogether. Civilization doesn’t collapse because women speak; it collapses because men stop believing their strength has any moral purpose or just result.

Yeah, women should just shut up and be glad they were given a can of corn

 

[Chernosoth]

How did the very qualities that built the modern world become objects of suspicion and ridicule?

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Men did half the work, but take most of the credit, so they also take most of the blame. This civilization is at the end of its road. It has done all it can achieve with industrial technology, fossil fuels, and the European values of eternal progress and infinite expansion. There's nowhere left to expand. We're well past the peak of progress as everything becomes slowly worse while diehard believers shout their denials.