Seeking Advice - German Literotica Community Facing Mass AI Rejections

[Japakl75]

Hello everyone,


I'm reaching out to the English-speaking community for advice about a serious issue affecting German Literotica authors.
Over recent months, we've seen what appears to be the slow death of the German community. More and more authors - many of whom have been active on the platform for years - are suddenly receiving rejections on newly submitted stories due to alleged AI usage.
The concerning part is that:

• No specific details are provided about the review process
• No evidence or results that led to the rejection are shared
• Appeals and notes during submission seem to go nowhere

I'm personally affected by this. Last year, I successfully published 58 story chapters without any issues. Now my latest submission has been rejected for the same AI allegation, despite being written the same way as all my previous work.

My questions to the community:

• Has anyone else experienced similar issues, particularly in non-English language sections?
• Does anyone have advice on how to effectively communicate with Literotica's operators? There doesn't seem to be a working channel.
• Are the smaller language communities simply being phased out as "insignificant"?

Many German authors are already leaving or searching for alternative platforms, which is incredibly frustrating for our readers who have followed our work for years.

Any guidance or shared experiences would be greatly appreciated.


Best regards,
Japakl

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

• Has anyone else experienced similar issues, particularly in non-English language sections?

Many dozens of threads.

 

[TheWritingGroup]

I have to wonder about how moderation of non-English stories is handled. Does Laurel speak all those languages, or is she using AI translation, then running the English result through her normal AI check? I have never experimented, but it seems as if that would cause lots of false-positive AI detection.

--Annie

 

[ChloeTzang]

Hello everyone,


I'm reaching out to the English-speaking community for advice about a serious issue affecting German Literotica authors.
Over recent months, we've seen what appears to be the slow death of the German community. More and more authors - many of whom have been active on the platform for years - are suddenly receiving rejections on newly submitted stories due to alleged AI usage.
The concerning part is that:

• No specific details are provided about the review process
• No evidence or results that led to the rejection are shared
• Appeals and notes during submission seem to go nowhere

I'm personally affected by this. Last year, I successfully published 58 story chapters without any issues. Now my latest submission has been rejected for the same AI allegation, despite being written the same way as all my previous work.

My questions to the community:

• Has anyone else experienced similar issues, particularly in non-English language sections?
• Does anyone have advice on how to effectively communicate with Literotica's operators? There doesn't seem to be a working channel.
• Are the smaller language communities simply being phased out as "insignificant"?

Many German authors are already leaving or searching for alternative platforms, which is incredibly frustrating for our readers who have followed our work for years.

Any guidance or shared experiences would be greatly appreciated.


Best regards,
Japakl

It's been raised many times here as well - any number of authors have had their stories rejected for alleged AI usage. WHatever Literotica is using to detect AI usage seems to be returning a lot of false positives and nobody has found any real solution to this.

Literotica has not been at all communicative on the issue - personally, I wonder to what extent Laurel and Manu are aware that this IS a major issue that is driving authors away to other sites.

My take on it is that while authors are not using AI, the use of tools such as Grammarly maybe be driving this - these tools all follow the same rules and recommend the same stylistic and grammatical changes which to a reader is quite noticeable. I dropped using these tools because of that -

Step One:
(a) After getting a rejection, resubmit with a note to the admin saying "I did not use AI to write this" (please note, not an option for German-language users)
(b) if rejected again, move to Step Two

Step Two: I'd recommend three things
(1) Everyone who hits this issue Use the feedback option in your control panel
(2) Everyone who hits this issue Open a Bug Ticket
(3) EVERYONE who hits this false positive AI problem PM Laurel using a standard header - :Story Rejected due to false positive on AI Usage" ]]

- a high volume of Feedback, Bug Reports and PM's all reporting the same issue will shine more light on the issue(s)
- I suspect part of the problem is a lack of awareness of the impact this is having (both the AI Rejections and the current issue with Pending Stories going into a Black Hole
- Complaining on the forums doesn'r achieve anything - the threads disappear quickly and I doubt Laurel or Manu browse the forums looking for issues - \
- In his last few posts Manu has highlighted using the Feedback form to report issues so I would suggest doing this for EVERY SINGLE OCCURENCE of these issues. THAT will get attention and ensure awareness of the impact


To do this go to your Control Panel, go to Help and select "New Feedback"
- I'd recommend using the same Feedback Subject - "Story Rejected due to false positive on AI Usage" and "Story has been in Pending for x days/weeks"
- For Feedback Tags, I'd suggest standardizing on "Critical System Failure" - both this issues are completely blocking authors from successfully submittimg their stories
- For Feedback Category - "Publishing YOur Work" is the obvious one
- For subcategory, "Story Submission" is the obvious one

AGAIN, I SUGGEST EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO HITS THESE ISSUES SUBMIT FEEDBACK - this seems to be the Site's preferred option

Do this AND submit a Bug Report - link here: https://www.literotica.com/stories/quest/bugs.php?id=3

 

[Japakl75]

Thank you very much for your kind assistance. I have now created my bug ticket and posted the instructions in the German forum. Perhaps it will be of some use.

 

[onehitwanda]

Based on the rollout of the "new" author comment functionality, I think the AI detection is this:

 

[AwkwardMD]

I noticed that I was getting pinged in those German threads, and I'm sorry I hadn't responded yet. My mentions were on pages 8 and 9, and getting that much text translated so I could catch up was not doable over the last few days.

I already spoke with @Djinn68 about this previously, in my thread. Djinn described an extremely complicated process of preparing each story for submission, and my advice was to simplify all of that as much as possible. Lit's AI detector is looking for some specific things, and finding them usually doesn't happen by accident.

 

[AwkwardMD]

I don't believe that this is a soft "phasing out" strategy for other languages, and I would be deeply disturbed if this was how Literotica went about doing that.

 

[TheLobster]

I don't believe that this is a soft "phasing out" strategy for other languages, and I would be deeply disturbed if this was how Literotica went about doing that.

It would indeed be sad if Literotica stopped being a welcoming place for the fans of thrusting a thick Bratwurst into a moist Sauerkraut.

 

[AwkwardMD]

It would indeed be sad if Literotica stopped being a welcoming place for the fans of thrusting a thick Bratwurst into a moist Sauerkraut.

What is even the point of anything if we can’t have that?

EDIT: we should not derail this thread with puns, ya'll. The Germans are asking for help

 

[AwkwardMD]

I wish I could talk about it more. I really, really do. What I understand about Lit's AI detector, though, cannot be discussed openly. Explaining how you fail the test gives away the test, and leaves Lit in an extremely vulnerable position.

Write it yourself. Edit it yourself (or get another person you trust to edit your work). Submit what you wrote. Fixing something that has already failed the test is difficult to do when you don't understand the criteria.

I'm sorry that my advice is so basic, but it really is the only way.

 

[AwkwardMD]

I also suspect that when English stories are rejected but resubmit with a note, Laurel has the capacity to inspect those stories and make a more informed judgement call on her own. I bet she can't do that with any other language, and that's extremely unfortunate.

 

[AwkwardMD]

Literotica has lofty goals about being sex positive and open to anyone, but external problems have crowbarred their way here and exposed that there are limits.

 

[AwkwardMD]

Potentially some author who has never had a problem could offer their services to Laurel? To be a German language volunteer reviewer? I don't know that Laurel would trust anyone, but it's worth trying/offering.

 

[ChloeTzang]

I also suspect that when English stories are rejected but resubmit with a note, Laurel has the capacity to inspect those stories and make a more informed judgement call on her own. I bet she can't do that with any other language, and that's extremely unfortunate.

The problem is you have to get it past the AI Rejection to get it to Laurel with a note to admin.

Ib that case, using the Feedback / Bug Report combo to report the issue with a link to the story seems the best bet but I don't think that has been tried - it's usually a PM to Laurel that people go with and those aren't working now - probably due to the high # of incidents

 

[Djinn68]

Lit's AI detector is looking for some specific things, and finding them usually doesn't happen by accident.

Lit's AI detector doesn't work. It can't. It's a mirage. Will it detect some stories written substantially by AI? Yes. Will it detect false positives? Also: Yes. To what ratio? Unknown. Fact is - and remains - human authors will be rejected - by a machine.

No matter how exactly this so-called detecting-process works, it is an illusion. Lit clearly accepts this collateral damage, which, for me, leaves only one option: Leave.

 

[AwkwardMD]

Lit's AI detector doesn't work. It can't. It's a mirage. Will it detect some stories written substantially by AI? Yes. Will it detect false positives? Also: Yes. To what ratio? Unknown. Fact is - and remains - human authors will be rejected - by a machine.

No matter how exactly this so-called detecting-process works, it is an illusion. Lit clearly accepts this collateral damage, which, for me, leaves only one option: Leave.

I'm sorry that you feel like this is your only alternative. I respectifully disagree with almost everything you said, but I understand how you got there and I empathize.

 

[AwkwardMD]

The problem is you have to get it past the AI Rejection to get it to Laurel with a note to admin.

Ib that case, using the Feedback / Bug Report combo to report the issue with a link to the story seems the best bet but I don't think that has been tried - it's usually a PM to Laurel that people go with and those aren't working now - probably due to the high # of incidents

None of these are bugs. They are features.

 

[ChloeTzang]

None of these are bugs. They are features.

Features or "Features". LOL.

And the pending stories "feature" is a feature too LOL?

Nah, too many "features" here right now that need to be fixed

 

[AwkwardMD]

Features or "Features". LOL.

You and I are not friends. I can be polite because I am trying to be helpful to others, but your camaraderie is unwanted. Please stop.

I don't have any knowledge of the other problems currently affecting submissions and the author notification feed. Those are bugs. Lit's AI detector is working as intended, as near as I can tell. Every instance of false positives I've seen, including Djinn68's, I can explain.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Lit's AI detector is working as intended, as near as I can tell. Every instance of false positives I've seen, including Djinn68's, I can explain.

Without expressing any undue camaraderie, the problem is, no-one HAS explained.

A lot of stories are being rejected for "AI" reasons, the site has NOT explained why this is happening, even at a generic level, and has not advised what we should do to avoid AI rejections when AI is NOT being used.

If you can explain, at a generic level, why false positives are being experienced, and what can be done to avoid this, that would be really helpful.

 

[Djinn68]

Every instance of false positives I've seen, including Djinn68's, I can explain.

No you can't. Because you won't. Because - reasons. You see: Your "knowledge about things you can't disclose here" sounds hollow.

Stanford, MIT, and even OpenAI say:

AI detectors are unreliable and should not be used for punitive decisions.

You can disagree with that all you like, it doesn't change the facts. They. Are. Unreliable.

 

[AwkwardMD]

Without expressing any undue camaraderie, the problem is, no-one HAS explained.

A lot of stories are being rejected for "AI" reasons, the site has NOT explained why this is happening, even at a generic level, and has not advised what we should do to avoid AI rejections when AI is NOT being used.

If you can explain, at a generic level, why false positives are being experienced, and what can be done to avoid this, that would be really helpful.

I already gave Djinn68 the only advice I've been able to figure out.

I wish I could talk about it more. I really, really do. What I understand about Lit's AI detector, though, cannot be discussed openly. Explaining how you fail the test gives away the test, and leaves Lit in an extremely vulnerable position.

Write it yourself. Edit it yourself (or get another person you trust to edit your work). Submit what you wrote. Fixing something that has already failed the test is difficult to do when you don't understand the criteria.

I'm sorry that my advice is so basic, but it really is the only way.

I first worked out Lit's AI detector in mid-2024, and sat on my hands saying nothing for over a year because I couldn't figure out how talk about it. It is a black box that only works because it is a black box.

 

[AwkwardMD]

No you can't. Because you won't. Because - reasons. You see: Your "knowledge about things you can't disclose here" sounds hollow.

Stanford, MIT, and even OpenAI say:

AI detectors are unreliable and should not be used for punitive decisions.

You can disagree with that all you like, it doesn't change the facts. They. Are. Unreliable.

I'm really sorry that you feel this way. I'm really not trying to antagonize you.

 

[AwkwardMD]

Stanford, MIT, and even OpenAI say:

AI detectors are unreliable and should not be used for punitive decisions.

Lit's AI detector is home grown, and these assessments do not apply. They are talking about something fundamentally different, although we use the same words to describe them.