HisArpy
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It's the eyes. You can tell every time if you look at the eyes.
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It's the eyes. You can tell every time if you look at the eyes.
Really? How do you explain the fact that the USA is the only place where these shootings regularly happen, and it's also the only place without sensible gun regulation.
The Onion said it best.
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How completely oblivious. The irony is lost on her
Charlie says something that hurts someone's feelings and they kill him
She says THAT'S OK
She says something that hurts someone's feelings and they say something back to her
she says THAT AIN'T RIGHT
Charlie says something that hurts someone's feelings and they kill him
She says THAT'S OK
She says something that hurts someone's feelings and they say something back to her
she says THAT AIN'T RIGHT
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Another Instalment: The Care and Feeding of YOUR Right wing Death Squad, #45:
Copyright (c) 2025, Tom Kratman and Harry Kitchener
To the would-be violent Left
Right. Gather around and listen in. We have some unpalatable truths for you. Our apologies in advance if I misgender any of you fine young people. Now sit down, smoke if you want – no, don’t smoke _that_ – and pay attention.
We’re going to be talking about a violent Left, using the supposed tactics of the Right against them. While the Right hasn’t, generally, been doing much of this kind of thing – yet – there is a huge potential for it, of course.
This lone-wolf, radicalized youngster shit can be briefly effective – although we do wonder why this silly young man chose Kirk, of all people, to slot. He was one of the Right’s more effective operators, sure – a debater, a discusser, a motivator – but not, notably, a Bad Guy whose elimination would have been, you know, OK with the bulk of normal people who dislike Right extremists as much as they do Left extremists. We suspect, if the story about the shooter having a trans boyfriend is accurate, that it was as much personal as political.
Let’s assume, though, that you people want to kick off what we might call a hard debate – that you plan to use organized and precise violence to combat your enemies and promote your views.
Actually doing it is pretty easy – a patsy with a hunting rifle has a pretty good chance, assuming a bit of talent, to take out any given public figure (assuming no Secret Service protection, that makes things much more difficult). He’ll almost certainly be caught, of course; in a best case, arrested, tried and sentenced to life…or death, in a worst case, killed during the arrest. If you’ve got an inexhaustible supply of these patsies I suppose that’s sustainable – it’s meaningless, of course, as it’ll just bring the other side to the conclusion that if this is the game in future, they’ll happily play along (and they have more guns, more training and probably more immediate support than you do. And they’re starting to really hate you, too).
If you actually *want* to kick off a low-level civil war (I have to say I can’t understand why you would want this, but, hey ho, your call), you need to think in more sustainable terms. Read back on our pieces for some hints on the operational, logistic and security considerations you need to establish a covert, violent organization. Particularly consider the issue of finance – this stuff costs big money to organize and execute and I’m not sure you have access to the sort of volumes of laundered cash you’re going to need.
You’re also going to need to be tough, properly tough in order to cope with the immense pressure you’re going to feel from government and the Right alike, to say nothing of the moral (and morale) impact of inevitable casualties, not just those arrested and sentenced, but also those killed and maimed. Don’t underestimate the impact on one of your ‘active service units’ losing one or two of their members, or of the occasional need just to abandon them in order to get away.
Assuming – and, to be frank, I don’t see this working – but, assuming you do manage to organize some sort of covert violent organization, what would it be *for*? What’s the end state you’re looking to achieve? Proletarian revolution, the righteous rage of the mobilized working class? Not a fucking chance, not in the USA. Every historical example we have of the left trying this kind of thing to raise an oppressive right wing government, to mobilize the masses for the left, shows, instead, massive cheering from those masses for the government that then proceeds to exterminate you.
Cowing the Right through violence? Again, not a hope – the Right (as you call it, a better term might be ‘the majority of the US population’) tends to be pretty much OK with justified violence, tends to have a larger proportion of people who’ve seen the elephant (this is military slang for “the greatest show on earth,” which is to say, war) and tends to be much better armed than your folks are. On the plus side, you’re in America so becoming better armed is easy. Becoming better armed without leaving a trail pointing straight at you, on the other hand, is hard. And you don’t have the criminal connections to avoid this.
Your base is relatively small and relatively concentrated in certain areas and in certain sectors – soft states, academia, the media, that kind of thing. Don’t believe a word big tech says, they’ll drop you and switch immediately as their share price is adversely affected. And note that the “disciplines” your sort of people tend to undertake in college – gender studies, ethnic studies, gay studies, feminist interpretive dance – are great for motivation to act for the left, but not very good for competence in action.
This makes your base incredibly vulnerable. No matter how effective your ‘active service units’ might be in doing dreadful things to individuals on the Right, you’ll always be outgunned – and every single successful operation you carry out will generate greater support for your opponents. What’s that? Yes, of course it’s unfair and unjust. Deal with it.
What you have, always, to remember is that however important some things are to you, most people are either indifferent to them, or actively hostile to them. No amount of killing is going to change that, probably quite the contrary.
Let’s take the trans thing as an example. Most people are content to mind their own business and if a man suddenly decides he’s woman (or vice versa), most people won’t care. They might not particularly enjoy the company of trans folk, that’s up to them, but will generally be OK with it. What they’re not OK with is people with appendages dominating women’s sport, wandering around female restrooms and pretending that they suffer menstruation and the like. Proper women (I know you have terms for all this, but, you know, life’s too short to pander to your overdeveloped sensibilities) feel threatened by having male penises around when they’re in their safe spaces and that’s entirely natural. They also hate it when they’re forced to lie and say something they really don’t believe is true.
That’s just one example. Your job is to win the narrative, to *convince* the vast mass of people that you’re right and they’re wrong. Note here that, even with the media and academia firmly on your side and supporting your narrative, the needle has hardly moved. That should tell you something about what works and what doesn’t.
OK. That was a brief diversion from the issue today. If you want to do this stuff, then be serious about it and understand, in advance, what the costs are likely to be and have a very clear and realistic appreciation of what you might achieve. Our own view, as technicians, is that you won’t achieve anything positive for your cause and will create a large amount of resistance to it, but it’s your call.
When we talk about being serious about it, incidentally, that includes discipline, structure and organization. Discipline, in particular, is going to be a problem for you, we suspect. You may well be used to ‘leaderless’ protest and the like, but for this sort of thing, you’re going to need leaders and in this line of work, those leaders have to have absolute authority (and the absolute confidence of those they lead). Got anyone in mind? Anyone at all?
Copyright (c) 2025, Tom Kratman and Harry Kitchener
To the would-be violent Left
Right. Gather around and listen in. We have some unpalatable truths for you. Our apologies in advance if I misgender any of you fine young people. Now sit down, smoke if you want – no, don’t smoke _that_ – and pay attention.
We’re going to be talking about a violent Left, using the supposed tactics of the Right against them. While the Right hasn’t, generally, been doing much of this kind of thing – yet – there is a huge potential for it, of course.
This lone-wolf, radicalized youngster shit can be briefly effective – although we do wonder why this silly young man chose Kirk, of all people, to slot. He was one of the Right’s more effective operators, sure – a debater, a discusser, a motivator – but not, notably, a Bad Guy whose elimination would have been, you know, OK with the bulk of normal people who dislike Right extremists as much as they do Left extremists. We suspect, if the story about the shooter having a trans boyfriend is accurate, that it was as much personal as political.
Let’s assume, though, that you people want to kick off what we might call a hard debate – that you plan to use organized and precise violence to combat your enemies and promote your views.
Actually doing it is pretty easy – a patsy with a hunting rifle has a pretty good chance, assuming a bit of talent, to take out any given public figure (assuming no Secret Service protection, that makes things much more difficult). He’ll almost certainly be caught, of course; in a best case, arrested, tried and sentenced to life…or death, in a worst case, killed during the arrest. If you’ve got an inexhaustible supply of these patsies I suppose that’s sustainable – it’s meaningless, of course, as it’ll just bring the other side to the conclusion that if this is the game in future, they’ll happily play along (and they have more guns, more training and probably more immediate support than you do. And they’re starting to really hate you, too).
If you actually *want* to kick off a low-level civil war (I have to say I can’t understand why you would want this, but, hey ho, your call), you need to think in more sustainable terms. Read back on our pieces for some hints on the operational, logistic and security considerations you need to establish a covert, violent organization. Particularly consider the issue of finance – this stuff costs big money to organize and execute and I’m not sure you have access to the sort of volumes of laundered cash you’re going to need.
You’re also going to need to be tough, properly tough in order to cope with the immense pressure you’re going to feel from government and the Right alike, to say nothing of the moral (and morale) impact of inevitable casualties, not just those arrested and sentenced, but also those killed and maimed. Don’t underestimate the impact on one of your ‘active service units’ losing one or two of their members, or of the occasional need just to abandon them in order to get away.
Assuming – and, to be frank, I don’t see this working – but, assuming you do manage to organize some sort of covert violent organization, what would it be *for*? What’s the end state you’re looking to achieve? Proletarian revolution, the righteous rage of the mobilized working class? Not a fucking chance, not in the USA. Every historical example we have of the left trying this kind of thing to raise an oppressive right wing government, to mobilize the masses for the left, shows, instead, massive cheering from those masses for the government that then proceeds to exterminate you.
Cowing the Right through violence? Again, not a hope – the Right (as you call it, a better term might be ‘the majority of the US population’) tends to be pretty much OK with justified violence, tends to have a larger proportion of people who’ve seen the elephant (this is military slang for “the greatest show on earth,” which is to say, war) and tends to be much better armed than your folks are. On the plus side, you’re in America so becoming better armed is easy. Becoming better armed without leaving a trail pointing straight at you, on the other hand, is hard. And you don’t have the criminal connections to avoid this.
Your base is relatively small and relatively concentrated in certain areas and in certain sectors – soft states, academia, the media, that kind of thing. Don’t believe a word big tech says, they’ll drop you and switch immediately as their share price is adversely affected. And note that the “disciplines” your sort of people tend to undertake in college – gender studies, ethnic studies, gay studies, feminist interpretive dance – are great for motivation to act for the left, but not very good for competence in action.
This makes your base incredibly vulnerable. No matter how effective your ‘active service units’ might be in doing dreadful things to individuals on the Right, you’ll always be outgunned – and every single successful operation you carry out will generate greater support for your opponents. What’s that? Yes, of course it’s unfair and unjust. Deal with it.
What you have, always, to remember is that however important some things are to you, most people are either indifferent to them, or actively hostile to them. No amount of killing is going to change that, probably quite the contrary.
Let’s take the trans thing as an example. Most people are content to mind their own business and if a man suddenly decides he’s woman (or vice versa), most people won’t care. They might not particularly enjoy the company of trans folk, that’s up to them, but will generally be OK with it. What they’re not OK with is people with appendages dominating women’s sport, wandering around female restrooms and pretending that they suffer menstruation and the like. Proper women (I know you have terms for all this, but, you know, life’s too short to pander to your overdeveloped sensibilities) feel threatened by having male penises around when they’re in their safe spaces and that’s entirely natural. They also hate it when they’re forced to lie and say something they really don’t believe is true.
That’s just one example. Your job is to win the narrative, to *convince* the vast mass of people that you’re right and they’re wrong. Note here that, even with the media and academia firmly on your side and supporting your narrative, the needle has hardly moved. That should tell you something about what works and what doesn’t.
OK. That was a brief diversion from the issue today. If you want to do this stuff, then be serious about it and understand, in advance, what the costs are likely to be and have a very clear and realistic appreciation of what you might achieve. Our own view, as technicians, is that you won’t achieve anything positive for your cause and will create a large amount of resistance to it, but it’s your call.
When we talk about being serious about it, incidentally, that includes discipline, structure and organization. Discipline, in particular, is going to be a problem for you, we suspect. You may well be used to ‘leaderless’ protest and the like, but for this sort of thing, you’re going to need leaders and in this line of work, those leaders have to have absolute authority (and the absolute confidence of those they lead). Got anyone in mind? Anyone at all?
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Rocky's post is gone from X, and Rocky seems to be gone from X too. Go figure.
One suspects Rocky's career in politics has also just ended.......
One suspects Rocky's career in politics has also just ended.......
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Let's all help Don Lemon whume harder by outting nore psychopaths
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A small justice served.
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If all you want is to play verbal gotcha games take it up with some who likes to play those games.
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Keep the purge going. 
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General Jasmine Crockett has a ring to it.
HisArpy
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I think the progressive Left doesn't understand what assassination and continued violence is going to look like from a legal standpoint.
NO ONE, and I mean ABSOLUTELY NO ONE is going to let themselves be murdered by some freaks with a mental problem. That means more guns on the street being carried by people without permits and, if the police arrest and try to prosecute them, that's not going to go well for them or the judges/DA's. To put it bluntly, gun laws are going to disappear and they'll do it fastest in Blue States/cities where the PTB will get to the FO stage very quickly.
The progressive Left does not want that to happen. Nor do Leftist politicians. Best of all, neither do Conservatives. However, Conservatives aren't going to just stand by and let themselves be slaughtered either so given a choice, guns win and progressive Leftists/politicians and gun laws lose.
I am against this, but I also refuse to accept the other option. Given a choice I will either survive or be waiting at my desk in Hell when the parade of stupid as all fuck Leftists start to line up for admittance.
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Untrue. Firing or punishing people for an old tweet or an opinion you don't like is cancel culture.
If you co-worker came in celebrating the Hortman murder, would you want to work with that person or would you prefer to have that person fired? I wouldn't want to work with that person. They shouldn't go to prison or anything, but that doesn't mean a private entity has to keep them on board.
The same principle applies to Charlie Kirk's murder, even though you liberals seem to think otherwise.
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It's not every post in this thread demonstrates that.
I don't care why you agree with it now when you didn't before.
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