Gaza City Officially in Famine, Jews Celebrate

[RobDownSouth]

Some of the journalists who were killed/injured at Nasser hospital accompanied the attackers on October 7th. Wearing a press vest doesn’t automatically make you innocent of war crimes.

No they did not. You made that up.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Why is it "odd?" Because you haven't met one? You live on the other side of the world and if I were a betting man, I'd bet you've never been to the Motherland.

It’s odd because I read back through Horny_rabbi’s posts and he sounds like a Christian. Yes, I’ve never been to Israel, but I have Israeli friends and he doesn’t sound Israeli either.

 

[DeluxAuto]

It’s odd because I read back through Horny_rabbi’s posts and he sounds like a Christian. Yes, I’ve never been to Israel, but I have Israeli friends and he doesn’t sound Israeli either.

Lol. Awesome. Lol.

 

[Noor]

Are you conservative, reform, orthodox or Hasidic?

Or reconstructionalist?

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Or reconstructionalist?

I’ve never met one in the wild. I expect we would agree about a lot of things.

 

[Noor]

It’s kind of weird even the most religious, ultra orthodox rabbis tend to be kind of laid back. I’m not referring to those idiots who throw rocks at cars driving on the sabbath in Israel, but the majority.
In Judaism there is always a way around most things, like burying suicides. Suicides can’t be buried, people who are cremated can’t be buried, however people are not considered in their right minds for a period before their deaths and their relatives aren’t after the persons death, and people can not be held responsible for decisions made while not in their right mind, so the suicides and cremated can be buried.

 

[Noor]

I’ve never met one in the wild. I expect we would agree about a lot of things.

Actually I know a reconstructionalist rabbi too. I look at them like the Unitarian Universalists of Judaism.

 

[Hel_Books]

BrightShinyGirl said:
Some of the journalists who were killed/injured at Nasser hospital accompanied the attackers on October 7th. Wearing a press vest doesn’t automatically make you innocent of war crimes.

No they did not. You made that up.

Why is it so hard to believe that terrorists who could evade Israeli security on 7 October could also infiltrate news organizations?

 

[RobDownSouth]

Why is it so hard to believe that terrorists who could evade Israeli security on 7 October could also infiltrate news organizations?

Wanting two unrelated things to be true isn't the same as declaring two unrelated things to be factually true.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
Why is it so hard to believe that terrorists who could evade Israeli security on 7 October could also infiltrate news organizations?

Wanting two unrelated things to be true isn't the same as declaring two unrelated things to be factually true.

In a lot of these cases it's hard to know whom to believe. Both sides have an incentive to shade the truth and make insincere excuses.

On the other hand, Hamas does hide weapons in ambulances, build command centres under mosques, use their own (and kidnapped Israeli) children as human shields etc. etc. etc. Not to mention infiltrating UNRWA.

Do you think Hamas would have the capability of getting one of their people hired as a journalist in advance of the 7 October attacks?

If they could get their people hired as stringers for, for example, the Associated Press, do you think they would do so?

From the original 1948 war to the Hamas charter to chants of "From the River to the Sea" the muslims have made it clear they're out for the extermination of Israel (except a few dictators, princes and presidents-for-life don't really care, only using the "cause" when they need to distract their miserable citizens from their own brutality and mismanagement). Spreading propaganda by infiltrating news organizations is pretty tame compared to that!

 

[coati]

Why is it so hard to believe that terrorists who could evade Israeli security on 7 October could also infiltrate news organizations?

First, there was no Israeli security on 7 October, other than an unmanned chain link gate.

But to your point about the yet-unproven allegation that "some" of the five journalists who were killed at the hospital were associated with Hamas, even if that is true, why kill all of the journalists and the first responders with two successive remote air strikes rather than using snipers to kill the alleged offenders?

 

[coati]

From the original 1948 war to the Hamas charter to chants of "From the River to the Sea" the muslims have made it clear they're out for the extermination of Israel (except a few dictators, princes and presidents-for-life don't really care, only using the "cause" when they need to distract their miserable citizens from their own brutality and mismanagement).

Once again you generalize about "the muslims". Muslims are part of a religion with millions of followers spread all over the world. Your generalizations are just as gross and counterproductive as anti-Semites who generalize about "the Jews."

 

[RobDownSouth]

In a lot of these cases it's hard to know whom to believe. Both sides have an incentive to shade the truth and make insincere excuses.

We can agree on this. Having said that, does that empower Islamophobic bigot BrightShinyGirl to present a hypothetical as fact?
In my mind, it does not.
Consider this: It has long been alleged that you Jews enjoy drinking the blood of innocent Christian children, If I were to believe that as factual, does that empower me to present that as 'factual'?
Hint: it does not.

On the other hand, Hamas does hide weapons in ambulances, build command centres under mosques, use their own (and kidnapped Israeli) children as human shields etc. etc. etc.

When otherwise intelligent....or even semi-intelligent...Jews panic, they resort to "the litany of grievances" talking points from the genocidal
Israeli propaganda branch. You've been muttering "weapons in ambulances" and "children as human shields" so often, despite never actually providing proof of these claims, that you've internalized them as self-defense mechanisms.

Anyway, I cannot believe you are so Yahweh-damned tone deaf to invoke "Weapons in Ambulances" in THIS particular thread.
Then entire second half of this shameless, dishonorable, heinous terrorist attack by the IDF was the genocidal Israeli tank company commander ordered his tankers to put a high explosive round through two Red Crescent ambulances, deliberately killing every single civilian in both vehicles. When the aghast ISRAELI press asked for an explanation for the unprovoked second attack. the brigade commander shrugged and said he didn't want any casualties to receive aid.

This is the gutter YOUR religion has descended into.

Not to mention infiltrating UNRWA.

Oh you want to go there too? Bad Jew! The western press ate up the fiction presented by the genocidal Israeli propaganda department, because the department provided "proof" with 12 written signed and notarized confessions from UNRWA workers who admitted they were "Hamas operatives" (12 out of 20,000!). The 12 were, of course, were immediately sacked by UNRWA and Jews around the world celebrated the disgrace of UNRWA.

An intrepid British newspaper paid a reporter to infiltrate Gaza and track down these 12 infidels. Nine were still alive, three had been killed in random bombings by the genocidal Israeli air force.

All nine survivors.....none of whom knew each other.....said the same thing. Their "confessions" were made under duress, they had been subjected to "enhanced interrogation techniques" of the genocidal Israeli intelligence operatives. That's "torture" to us civilians.
If you believe confessions coerced by torture are "proof" of your position, then I seriously hope your children cannot reproduce.

Do you think Hamas would have the capability of getting one of their people hired as a journalist in advance of the 7 October attacks?

Pivoting to speculation? Tsk. Yes they probably could do so if they were so inclined......are you insinuating because they COULD do, they actually DID so? Because that's a leap of faith that I don't think a non-Jew would reasonably make.

If they could get their people hired as stringers for, for example, the Associated Press, do you think they would do so?

Look at you! You're wordsmithing a specious argument insinuating that Islamophobic bigot BrightShinyGirl is being truthful without actually saying it alound. Gives you a bit of breathing space, doesn't it? Agreeing without appearing to agree.

The pinnacle of Jewish hairsplitting, that's you!

From the original 1948 war to the Hamas charter to chants of "From the River to the Sea" the muslims have made it clear they're out for the extermination of Israel (except a few dictators, princes and presidents-for-life don't really care, only using the "cause" when they need to distract their miserable citizens from their own brutality and mismanagement). Spreading propaganda by infiltrating news organizations is pretty tame compared to that!

How boring. None of this musty ancient history has anything to do with today's 2025 crisis: the genocidal Israeli government has a government policy in place to starve the children of Gaza. The blood of the innocents is completely on the hands of the genocidal Israeli government, and your tacit support of their pogroms and ethnic cleansing put the blook of innocents on your hands as well.

 

[Lazaran]

Are you conservative, reform, orthodox or Hasidic?

Look at the join date and the number of posts from "Horny_rabbi…

It’s an alt troll…



Saint_Ann maybe???



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Noor]

First, there was no Israeli security on 7 October, other than an unmanned chain link gate.

But to your point about the yet-unproven allegation that "some" of the five journalists who were killed at the hospital were associated with Hamas, even if that is true, why kill all of the journalists and the first responders with two successive remote air strikes rather than using snipers to kill the alleged offenders?

They are killing Hamas, that they may be journalist and first responders or playing them, is irrelevant.

 

[coati]

They are killing Hamas, that they may be journalist and first responders or playing them, is irrelevant.

My point had to do with distinguishing between Hamas and civilians on the stairwell of that hospital. You are now saying every last one of them deserved to die in two successive indiscrimative air strikes because you claim that all of them were either Hamas or Hamas dupes.

Is the Netanyahu.tactic to get rid of everyone in Gaza? Scare into self-deportation 2 million people?

Sounds very similar to Trump's plan to deport 14 million people from the USA.

 

[Hel_Books]

First, there was no Israeli security on 7 October, other than an unmanned chain link gate.

But to your point about the yet-unproven allegation that "some" of the five journalists who were killed at the hospital were associated with Hamas, even if that is true, why kill all of the journalists and the first responders with two successive remote air strikes rather than using snipers to kill the alleged offenders?

Perhaps the Israelis were too trusting of the international community suggesting that they trust the moslems to be peacemakers and they let down their guard?

As for not risking soldiers on the ground, I'm guessing they lost a lot of lives on 7 October and are rather cautious about losing any more.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
From the original 1948 war to the Hamas charter to chants of "From the River to the Sea" the muslims have made it clear they're out for the extermination of Israel (except a few dictators, princes and presidents-for-life don't really care, only using the "cause" when they need to distract their miserable citizens from their own brutality and mismanagement).

Once again you generalize about "the muslims". Muslims are part of a religion with millions of followers spread all over the world. Your generalizations are just as gross and counterproductive as anti-Semites who generalize about "the Jews."

No generalizations, silly! Obviously when I referred to the 1948 war, when Arab armies attacked Israel or the moslems chanting "From the River to the Sea" I wasn't referring to the muslims in Indonesia oppressing the Chinese minority or the Azerbaijanis oppressing the Armenian christians. I also pointed out that plenty of the leaders of countries in the middle east couldn't care less about the jews, except as whipping boys to persuade their people to hate an external enemy.

 

[Hel_Books]

It has long been alleged that you Jews enjoy drinking the blood of innocent Christian children, . . . .

Anyway, I cannot believe you are so Yahweh-damned tone deaf . . . .

This is the gutter YOUR religion has descended into. . . .

Bad Jew! . . .

I seriously hope your children cannot reproduce. . .

that's a leap of faith that I don't think a non-Jew would reasonably make. . . .

The pinnacle of Jewish hairsplitting, that's you!

How boring. . . . .

Boring? Perhaps. If you want something interesting, read some of my earlier posts, especially the ones where I quote Christopher Hitchens. You'll find that insulting me as belonging to a "gutter religion" is not only anti-semitic, but in fact utterly pointless, as I've mentioned several times that I abhor religions of all flavours!

 

[1984X2024]

They should ALL DIE

https://twitter.com/x/status/1961444822562037963

 

[Lazaran]

No generalizations, silly! Obviously when I referred to the 1948 war, when Arab armies attacked Israel or the moslems chanting "From the River to the Sea" I wasn't referring to the muslims in Indonesia oppressing the Chinese minority or the Azerbaijanis oppressing the Armenian christians. I also pointed out that plenty of the leaders of countries in the middle east couldn't care less about the jews, except as whipping boys to persuade their people to hate an external enemy.

And that ^ is why "The Abraham Accords" are so much twaddle.

Yet the MAGAts "think" DonOld deserves a Nobel peace prize for accomplishing nothing but political theater / a publicity stunt to the benefit of those "leaders" who signed on to "The Abraham Accords"…



Meanwhile:

DonOld: assassinated Qasem Soleimani; moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem; didn’t involve the "Palestinians" in "The Abraham Accords", and had an aggressive & virulent anti-Arab / anti-Muslim agenda - all of which likely contributed to the 10/7 attack on Israel and all the subsequent death and destruction in the region.

But, sure…let’s give DonOld a Nobel peace prize…(Let’s give Putin a Nobel peace prize while we’re at it…)



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[coati]

Trump and his legion of propagandists are very similar in vilification tactics as Netanyahu and his propagandists. That is why Netanyahu favored Trump in all three of the Orange Pig's bids for office. Trump just isn't at the same level of militarization, yet. Same goes for Hamas, Putin, and the other major aggressors, obviously.

The world must hold all of these extremists accountable for complying with the Geneva Conventions.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Boring? Perhaps. If you want something interesting, read some of my earlier posts, especially the ones where I quote Christopher Hitchens.

Wasn't Hitchens great? I'm a tad surprised that you have quoted him, with his comments being oh-so-politically incorrect and therefore "antisemitic' under the current perverted re-definition of the word. Hitchens has been dead for over a decade. though, so it probably is of no benefit for today's bigoted Jewish extremists to call him out posthumously.

He was very prescient, he saw the coming of BrightShinyGirl's "but but Hamas Journalist!" sophistry
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

He also saw the rise of the Hel_Brooks of the world clutchin' their pearls at every utterance against genocidal Israel
“Those who are determined to be ‘offended’ will discover a provocation somewhere. We cannot possibly adjust enough to please the fanatics, and it is degrading to make the attempt.”

And finally he saw the rise of the intolerant Political Board Jews in general:
“I learned that very often the most intolerant and narrow-minded people are the ones who congratulate themselves on their tolerance and open-mindedness.”

You'll find that insulting me as belonging to a "gutter religion" is not only anti-semitic, but in fact utterly pointless, as I've mentioned several times that I abhor religions of all flavours!

You know, I admit to being a bit hyperbolic about "gutter Jews". There are still 'good Jews' in the world, in fact the majority of Reform Jews in America fall into that classification. These are the "Not In Our Name" Jews who somewhat belatedly stood up bravely against the Islamophobic Jewish zealot bigots who have hijacked the core of Judiasm as a shield to protect them from consequence as they celebrate pain, death and dismemberment of Gazans in the middle east.

Upon reflection "Gutter Jews", although technically insofar as accurately describing you and your elk (sic), is needlessly inflammatory. So how about meeting me in the middle and agreeing to refer to those Jews without a moral compass or a shred of human decency as "Bazael Smotrich Jews".

And please, make no mistake, YOU are Definitely one of those "Smotrich Jews". Your oh-so-cleverly-worded snark that celebrates the starvation of innocent children and turning a blind eye to the genocidal Israeli general who destroyed civilian aid workers "because he wanted to" grants you front-line access to that horrific death cult offshoot, the toxic perversion of Judaism that calls war crimes and pogroms to be "righteous" and "just".

And speaking of the "Not In Our Names" Jews.....did you happen to see your fellow slaughter afficionado's hot take on the UCLA Jewish student chapter?

The UCLA Jews put together a "Not In Our Names" encampment in the public square of UCLA. The small but violent local faction of your "Starvation is Righteous!" islamophobic bigoted Jews took offense. The bigots went to the UCLA deans office and demand sanctions against those "antisemites" who dared to disagree with Mother Israel. The dean said work it out amongst yourselves, this is a religious disagreement.

The small but violent Islamophobic bigoted Smotrich Jews opted for "enhanced interrogation techniques". Taking a cue from their spiritual ancestors (Hitler's brownshirts), they donned masks and jackboots, and carried baseball bats to the Not In Our Name encampment and beat the hell out of those they deemed "antisemitic", and tore their encampment down.

The bigoted Jews then filed a formal complaint against the UCLA administration, declaring that the university "failed to protect Jews" from opinions they disagreed with (then Trump came in and issued a "fine" to take money from the pockets of the University's endowment fund, the Jews who got beat up, and the Jews who administered the beatings.

And how did your bigot buddy BrightShinyGirl frame this? "Antisemitism is definitely on the rise at UCLA, and Jews are getting hurt". Yep....Jews ARE getting hurt.......by OTHER JEWS.

So to summarize: Sticks and stones (and bigot baseball bats) may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.

I will wear your characterization of my opinion regarding pogroms and ethnic cleansing...."Antisemitism (new expanded edition)" as a badge of honor, in much the same way that you wear your own "Star of Starvation" pendant (previously known as a 'Star of David') as a public expression of your Islamophobia and bigotry.

Years ago I might have urged you to "own your shame", but in 2025 it appears you bigots have no shame.
None. Bupkes.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
You'll find that insulting me as belonging to a "gutter religion" is not only anti-semitic, but in fact utterly pointless, as I've mentioned several times that I abhor religions of all flavours!

Upon reflection "Gutter Jews", although technically insofar as accurately describing you and your elk (sic), is needlessly inflammatory. So how about . . .

. . .Years ago I might have urged you to "own your shame", but in 2025 it appears you bigots have no shame. . . .
.

So are you calling me a "Gutter Jew" just to demonstrate that you (A) are ignorant because I'm not jewish (I abhor all flavours of religion) and (B) are a bigot with "no shame" whatsoever?

Or are you simply ignoring what I write and posting your own blather willy-nilly?

As far as "elk" goes, have you heard the one about the Vintage Navajo Elk Sterling Silver Pendant?

 

[RobDownSouth]

So are you calling me a "Gutter Jew" just to demonstrate that you (A) are ignorant because I'm not jewish (I abhor all flavours of religion) and (B) are a bigot with "no shame" whatsoever?

Or are you simply ignoring what I write and posting your own blather willy-nilly?

As far as "elk" goes, have you heard the one about the Vintage Navajo Elk Sterling Silver Pendant?

Simply amazing how many hardcore genocidal Israel supporters are now claiming they are not Jewish.

First JustPlainJeff, then Lazaran and now you.

At this rate there won't be a single person admitting their Jewish faith left on this board by the end of the year.
By Yahweh, it's a veritable Political Board Holocaust!

What was it the Germans civilians said after WW2? "Ja, ich bin Deutscher, aber ich war NIE ein Nazi!!!'

As Q used to say to 007..."always have an escape route planned".

*nods*