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The Netherlands has already announced significant fiunding for this initiative
For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine
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ChloeTzang....... this note is for you in particular.... I've not posted here for a while, yes there is a reason why I haven't...
But that's not what I want to speak about to you....as you know Ukraine has been getting mauled by the bear, Zelensky is/does work for the filthy British leading the Ukrainians to a genocidal quagmire.....here me out, please and carefully consider my thoughts...
NATO and the whoremongering democrats using Ukraine as a battering ram has degraded Russian early warning systems, submarine systems and some of the nuclear bombers and using "fire reconnaissance" has been probing Russian capabilities for 3 years (along with starlink) the west now for all intents and purpose have "mapped" the Russian War machine....
At the present the west is now in a very capable position to (now read this carefully) facilitate a Nuclear first strike, decapitation strike ... with what the west believes minimal collateral damage......
With all of this stated, if 50% of the Russian nuclear arsenal, that will number in more that 2000 nuclear weapons reaching their targets.... let that sink in...... you, the hapless Ukrainians and most of the free world has been "played"..
Anyway Chloe... there is much much more to share. But it is lengthy and complex...... please do make peace with God and stay frosty and stay strapped....
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Europe will NEVER launch a nuclear decapitation first strike on Russia. They're way too timid and they don't have the army strengths or organization to follow through.
As for a battering ram, Europe and Biden were desperately trying to bring Putin to the negotiating table from early on. The whole Biden strategy was geared to that. They're all terrified of what will happen if Russia implodes, esp with all those nukes lying around. If yulook at the start of the war, the Germans wrote Ukraine off pretty much right away, Biden offered Zelensky a ride out, and everyone thought Ukraine would fold. Biden was gearing up to supply weapons to Ukraine to fight a guerilla war - which would have been a failure, just as it was in the late 40's and early 50's. Russia would just have exterminated everyone in the wears where there was resistance, as they are in fact doing now in the Occupied Territories. Pretty much all ukrainian males, Russian speaking or otherwaise, in the Donbas were drafted into the military, thrown into the meatgrinder, and have now been killed. The Russians are now drafting Ukrainians in the occupied zones into the Russian military and throwing them in as well..... the end result is genocide and population replacement.
The occupied territories are going to have to be throughly cleaned out after they are liberated, and the evidence of genocide when that happens is going to be absolutely shocking - and all the liberals will weep and wail like the useless faggots they are. But no, there won't be a nuclear war. Putin might be crazy enough to drop one on Ukraine, but the Ukrainiabs will simply respond in kind - they have already written this in as a possibility and it will just mean that in the end, Russia will go down harder and faster.
The only real solution here is to treat Russia the way Nazi Germany was treated. Military defeat. Total denazification. Confiscation of all nukes. Execution of ALL war criminals. And a generation of re-education. Oh, and independance for ALL the colonies and the end of Russia as a colonial empire.
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And who knows, Putin may not be around for much longer......
President Vladimir Putin’s grip on power faces its biggest threat in decades, as whispers of a military coup spread through Moscow. Russian forces have suffered over 1 million casualties since 2022, losing more than 4,000 tanks and 8,200 armored vehicles. Controlled territory has dropped from 58,000 square miles in March 2022 to about 44,000 today.
Anonymous sources point to deepening unrest within Russia’s General Staff, with commanders fearing purges and scapegoating. Some may be preparing to act, echoing Yevgeny Prigozhin’s aborted march on Moscow in June 2023. Whether these reports signal an actual coup plot or an FSB purge, they underscore the Kremlin’s growing instability and the widening cracks within Putin’s inner circle.
President Vladimir Putin’s grip on power faces its biggest threat in decades, as whispers of a military coup spread through Moscow. Russian forces have suffered over 1 million casualties since 2022, losing more than 4,000 tanks and 8,200 armored vehicles. Controlled territory has dropped from 58,000 square miles in March 2022 to about 44,000 today.
Anonymous sources point to deepening unrest within Russia’s General Staff, with commanders fearing purges and scapegoating. Some may be preparing to act, echoing Yevgeny Prigozhin’s aborted march on Moscow in June 2023. Whether these reports signal an actual coup plot or an FSB purge, they underscore the Kremlin’s growing instability and the widening cracks within Putin’s inner circle.
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Ukraine’s military has unveiled the Privet-299, a low-cost wooden drone capable of surveillance, precision strikes, and reuse. Paired with Su-27 jets armed with Western glide bombs, it delivered a devastating blow to elite Russian troops near Bakhmut on August 11th. This innovation extends Ukraine’s “kill zone” behind enemy lines, disrupts Russian logistics, and adds another domestically produced weapon to its growing arsenal—all at a fraction of traditional costs.
The ZSU's 28th Mechanized took out at least part of Russia's 98th airborne division using a combimation of these drones and Su-27 delivered glid bombs
The ZSU's 28th Mechanized took out at least part of Russia's 98th airborne division using a combimation of these drones and Su-27 delivered glid bombs
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Update from Ukraine | Azov Cuts Off Russian Attack | Good and Bad news from Frontline
Pokrovsk - good summary of the situation and issues from Denys
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touches on internal opposition to Putin within Russia and new support packages from European allies for Ukraine.
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Russia is running out of cash.....
FSB squads are not cleaning up corruption - they are financing the Kremlin by shaking down governors and generals while Ukraine’s drone strikes drive up transport costs and choke diesel-reliant rails.
Here is the strategic picture in plain terms: battlefield strikes raise insurance and delivery costs, diesel prices squeeze Russian Railways, and the budget shortfall is filled by arrests. The result is fear at the top and poorer logistics at the front.
FSB squads are not cleaning up corruption - they are financing the Kremlin by shaking down governors and generals while Ukraine’s drone strikes drive up transport costs and choke diesel-reliant rails.
Here is the strategic picture in plain terms: battlefield strikes raise insurance and delivery costs, diesel prices squeeze Russian Railways, and the budget shortfall is filled by arrests. The result is fear at the top and poorer logistics at the front.
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https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/ukrainians-want-zelensky-to-end-the-war/
Moar shitfuckery.....more dead.....
Moar shitfuckery.....more dead.....
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They can reach out to their representatives and lobby for a change.
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It's a bit hard to end a war against Russia when Putin doesn't want to stop invading.
It's a bit like the Jews in Auschwitz saying they want the Germans to end the Holocaust.
Ain't happening, gurl.
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Ukraine is dismantling Russia’s war machine, striking command hubs and the fuel that powers its invasion. Ukrainian drones have launched an attack on the Southern Military District HQ in Rostov-on-Don and hit a LUKOIL refinery, proving Ukraine can target critical assets deep inside Russian territory.
Since January 2024, Ukraine has struck at least 61 refineries, depots, and pumping stations, causing over $10 billion in damage and crippling Russia’s refining capacity. Each hit forces the Kremlin to choose between defending the front lines or protecting vital infrastructure at home.
With the military weakening and the economy collapsing, Putin’s planned meeting with Donald Trump in Anchorage, Alaska, is not a show of power but a plea for relief. The Kremlin’s fractures are widening, and Ukraine is rewriting the war’s narrative, proving that Putin’s grip is far weaker than it appears.
Since January 2024, Ukraine has struck at least 61 refineries, depots, and pumping stations, causing over $10 billion in damage and crippling Russia’s refining capacity. Each hit forces the Kremlin to choose between defending the front lines or protecting vital infrastructure at home.
With the military weakening and the economy collapsing, Putin’s planned meeting with Donald Trump in Anchorage, Alaska, is not a show of power but a plea for relief. The Kremlin’s fractures are widening, and Ukraine is rewriting the war’s narrative, proving that Putin’s grip is far weaker than it appears.
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Zelensky’s Impossible Demands: NATO Membership, $1 Trillion in Reparations Ahead of Trump-Putin Summit
By Cassie B • Aug. 14, 2025- Zelensky’s unrealistic demands—NATO membership, $1 trillion in reparations, and no territorial concessions—risk prolonging Ukraine’s losing war.
- Russian forces continue advancing in Donbas as Ukraine suffers heavy losses, yet Zelensky refuses to negotiate.
- Trump is pushing for a decisive deal with Putin, potentially sidelining Zelensky if he obstructs peace efforts.
- European leaders, despite economic struggles, back Zelensky’s hardline stance, but they lack the resources to sustain it.
- Zelensky’s defiance may lead to a Trump-Putin deal without Ukraine’s input, sealing the country’s grim fate.
This is why the war will be settled on the battlefield.
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Putin is the one with the unreasonable demands.
I made a post a loooong time ago about how Russia would have sooooo much more to lose, and sooooo many more critical (strategically / militarily / economically) targets of opportunity for Ukraine to strike once the war opened up due to various factors (Russian attacks on civilians leading to approval of quasi-offensive / defensive deep strikes into Russia, and the global economy stabilizing after Covid, which allowed for the west to absorb some major hits on Russian oil production. See also: Israel’s attacks on Iran).
That ^ has happened / is happening.
Slava Ukraini!!!
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I'm not addressing demand one way or the other, just the reality. It's obvious that Putin is not going to accept Zelensky's demands. As long as that is the case, Putin has no incentive to give up what he has conquered when he's in the position to take even more. Just sayin'.
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Yes you are.
Putin doesn't want peace. His demands are unrealistic. Ukraine's demands are that Russia stop invading at a minimum.
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Yes, yes,yes, but what is the reality? The reality is, Putin has the upper hand on the field and is exploiting that advantage. He thinks he's on the right side of the issue, so does Zelensky. Zelensky, is drafting 60-year-old men and young boys because he's out of fighting-age men. That's another reality. The Russian army is rolling up defensive works that are, in many cases, unmanned.
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The reality is that Putin has continued a facade of wanting peace.
You say that a lot. The battlefronts haven't really moved for quite a long time. An army with advantage wouldn't be stuck in neutral.
The issue is Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Ukraine is defending their sovereign country.
You use that line way too often. You're pro Russia....pro Putin. Have you received your new Putin poster for your wall yet?
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Why won't Ukraine give up?
Worth a watch for anyone who thinks Ukraine should give up and negotiate "peace" with Russia....... (hint. Peace with Russia is not possible)
Worth a watch for anyone who thinks Ukraine should give up and negotiate "peace" with Russia....... (hint. Peace with Russia is not possible)
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When Will Russia Run Out of Money to finance this war
Cutting to the chase, around mid-2026
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Sky News update on Ukraine
Quite a good update from Michael Clarke
Two different dynamics at work here
- the USA sees Ukraine as a war they have to get out of
- Europe now sees Ukraone as a war they need to win
Quite a good update from Michael Clarke
Two different dynamics at work here
- the USA sees Ukraine as a war they have to get out of
- Europe now sees Ukraone as a war they need to win
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There was a strong opportunity for a decisive Ukrainian victory at the beginning of the war thanks to the bold leadership of President Zelenskyy, combined with strong public support, the remarkable resourcefulness, creativity, and bravery of the Ukrainian military, and weapons from the US and Europe.
Unfortunately, that window of opportunity was allowed to close, in large part because of US fears of escalating that resulted in unnecessary dithering and foot dragging on approving and releasing offensive weapons.
Consequently, the Ukrainian people are understandably becoming worn down. Their evolving sentiments are reflected in Gallup polling. Their resolve to fight for unconditional victory has evaporated. They now overwhelmingly support a negotiated settlement.
Putin of course doesn’t care much about the sentiments of the Russian people. Although he is facing economic pressure and heat from the oligarchs, he’s shown no interest in a peaceful settlement so far. At some point however, he’s going to be forced to end the war one way or another.
This war will eventually end in a negotiated settlement. What that settlement looks like and when it happens is anyone’s guess. My only guess is it won’t happen soon.
Unfortunately, that window of opportunity was allowed to close, in large part because of US fears of escalating that resulted in unnecessary dithering and foot dragging on approving and releasing offensive weapons.
Consequently, the Ukrainian people are understandably becoming worn down. Their evolving sentiments are reflected in Gallup polling. Their resolve to fight for unconditional victory has evaporated. They now overwhelmingly support a negotiated settlement.
Putin of course doesn’t care much about the sentiments of the Russian people. Although he is facing economic pressure and heat from the oligarchs, he’s shown no interest in a peaceful settlement so far. At some point however, he’s going to be forced to end the war one way or another.
This war will eventually end in a negotiated settlement. What that settlement looks like and when it happens is anyone’s guess. My only guess is it won’t happen soon.
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On a global war timeline, it'll happen fairly soon. Or at least I think so. Zelensky and his supporters aren't going to like the way it happens either because it's going to be a lose/lose for them.
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People don't support Zelensky. They support Ukraine.
People do support Putin. Nobody believes that Russian people care
This is the biggest difference to support on the sides here.
