How many of you write for yourselves, not the reader?

I doubt many of us were very accomplished or polished when we began.
Here I am, suis generis in yet another category. My best story is my first. They get less substantive as they move on. Well, "almost" suis generis. I guess there is the known phenomenon of authors that only had one book in them.
 
Here I am, suis generis in yet another category. My best story is my first. They get less substantive as they move on. Well, "almost" suis generis. I guess there is the known phenomenon of authors that only had one book in them.
I think there's a difference between "polished or accomplished" and "best story". For many writers, their first story is probably the result of years of rumination and dreaming before the actual writing takes place. It's also probably the story they have a strong desire to tell, otherwise they wouldn't have taken the leap from dreaming about it to actually writing and publishing it. These factors together can make for a powerful story, without the writer necessarily understanding why it works.
 
Here I am, suis generis in yet another category. My best story is my first. They get less substantive as they move on. Well, "almost" suis generis. I guess there is the known phenomenon of authors that only had one book in them.
My first story is actually my "worst". Its my inner carnal perverse desires that actually no one else likes. Plus its badly written. The idea is amazing. BUT i've learnt from it. I have used parts of it better in other stories.
 
I do very much want to write for my readers - if I’m ever fortunate to have any 😆 - as I truly believe most would be thrilled to be immersed in the parts of my life I want to share. I’ve traveled, I’ve had incredible sexual experiences, I’ve lived through an incredibly strange family dynamic. (Hi Mom!🙄)

But at this stage I just don’t have the literary talent. I don’t know how to breathe written life into all my terabytes of images and videos and memories. And with a baby on the way, I don’t see that changing this year or next.☹️
My dear @EmmAgain,
You, like every one of us here, has a story or stories to tell. In fact, the more "truthful" the experience, the more compelling the story. Literary talent is something that you develop and there are plenty of aids to help with that. One that springs to mind is "Grammarly", that is a program designed to help people write more "presentable" communications at work but it fulfills the very same function for non-work writing. Even Microsoft word has an inbuilt reviewer for spelling and grammar. That is if this is what you are worried about. I first joined Lit in 2019 and it took me until 2025 to get comfortable enough to put my first story up.

If you are afraid that people are going to read your writing and think it "silly", "sub standard" or some such other thing that is indeed a very real fear and all I can say is that one day you WILL find your courage and press that submit button.

Another option you might wish to explore is finding a friendly "volunteer editor" to read your stuff privately and suggest, gently, things you may wish to change or word differently. See, we really are a nice bunch here who have been in exactly the same place you are and we are here to help you find "your voice", so to speak.

We ( a great many of us) would love to read your stories while remembering that you are a first timer, then we encourage you to be a second timer, and a third timer and before you know it you are a writer for Lit.

If we give you the chance would you give us the chance to read your stuff?
Most respectfully,
D.
 
I've written a few short pieces for online playmates of mine describing their fantasies. They were primarily directed at them, to please a particular individual.

I also write much longer pieces that are very much written for me. I'm the audience because of the pleasure I take in crafting them. If it pleases others, that's a bonus, I do enjoy it but its not what motivates me. Those pieces are longer because I'm doing them for me. They're my babies, birthed because of my enjoyment of the act of their creation.

I'm always reminded of a quote from Vonnegut.

Write to please just one person. If you open a window and make love to the world, so to speak, your story will get pneumonia.

You can't please everybody. Don't try. Write for you, be authentic and if others like what you did too, be glad.
 
I believe this is a false dichotomy. The only way to truly write for the reader is to write for myself. Anything else is an insult to the reader.

Also I might be a narcissist.
 
My dear @EmmAgain,
You, like every one of us here, has a story or stories to tell. In fact, the more "truthful" the experience, the more compelling the story. Literary talent is something that you develop and there are plenty of aids to help with that. One that springs to mind is "Grammarly", that is a program designed to help people write more "presentable" communications at work but it fulfills the very same function for non-work writing. Even Microsoft word has an inbuilt reviewer for spelling and grammar. That is if this is what you are worried about. I first joined Lit in 2019 and it took me until 2025 to get comfortable enough to put my first story up.

If you are afraid that people are going to read your writing and think it "silly", "sub standard" or some such other thing that is indeed a very real fear and all I can say is that one day you WILL find your courage and press that submit button.

Another option you might wish to explore is finding a friendly "volunteer editor" to read your stuff privately and suggest, gently, things you may wish to change or word differently. See, we really are a nice bunch here who have been in exactly the same place you are and we are here to help you find "your voice", so to speak.

We ( a great many of us) would love to read your stories while remembering that you are a first timer, then we encourage you to be a second timer, and a third timer and before you know it you are a writer for Lit.

If we give you the chance would you give us the chance to read your stuff?
Most respectfully,
D.
Thank you for taking the time to compose such a helpful, informative reply.😃 I appreciate your very generous welcome to a wide-eyed newbie to the world of personal writing. I’m tentative about this whole project - and also very pressed for time in my ‘real’ life - but understand that these things are best tackled in bite-sized chunks. I have a keen and talented volunteer editor. Now I just need to feed her!🤣
 
Surely the answer to this is that all of the authors on this site, to some extent, write for the reader. A writer who writes only for himself will never publish. I believe authors who say it ia ALL them are fooling themselves. Writing is a performance, and performers need an audience. Whilst I appreciate some authors on this site switch off feedback so that they cannot hear the heckling. I challenge them to deny that they follow views or favourites and take satisfaction from this. I enjoy the process, the discipline involved in writing, the mental stimulus (and sometimes the physical one), the mental exercise, the feedback, and the act of creating something permanent? unique to me.
 
Surely the answer to this is that all of the authors on this site, to some extent, write for the reader. A writer who writes only for himself will never publish. I believe authors who say it ia ALL them are fooling themselves. Writing is a performance, and performers need an audience. Whilst I appreciate some authors on this site switch off feedback so that they cannot hear the heckling. I challenge them to deny that they follow views or favourites and take satisfaction from this. I enjoy the process, the discipline involved in writing, the mental stimulus (and sometimes the physical one), the mental exercise, the feedback, and the act of creating something permanent? unique to me.
Not true. I only thought of publishing some time (weeks) after writing my first story. I didn't even know how to publish. Didn't know sites like Literotica existed. It took some guts to actually do it. I wrote because the fantasy was overwhelming and I wanted to preserve it in the best words possible. All subsequent stories followed that path, except I didn't need pluck to publish.
 
Thank you for taking the time to compose such a helpful, informative reply.😃 I appreciate your very generous welcome to a wide-eyed newbie to the world of personal writing. I’m tentative about this whole project - and also very pressed for time in my ‘real’ life - but understand that these things are best tackled in bite-sized chunks. I have a keen and talented volunteer editor. Now I just need to feed her!🤣
Go for it. You'll be extremely popular. As for writing for the reader, a discerning one wants it to read something between a diary entry, observational, and a formal story.
 
I write characters and scenario for me and me alone. I hope the character is likeable and/ or empathetic. The sex is largely, but not always, for the reader. Depending on the sex scene I admit I pander to an audience, probably too much.
 
I had said at some point (earlier in this thread?) that I write for myself but publish for my readers. I think that is the same sentiment that @AG31 is expressing.

And I have some stories that I have written for just myself or myself and my SO that are not being published.
 
I write dirty stories for myself to have fun creating, for my wife to read and enjoy, and for the validation and amusement of posting them to this site, roughly in that order.

All of my stories, so far, are fantasies that I may have been discussing with my wife, or inspired by real world events.
 
Go for it. You'll be extremely popular. As for writing for the reader, a discerning one wants it to read something between a diary entry, observational, and a formal story.
Thank you for the very sensible advice and encouragement!❤️
 
I should also add that sometimes I write narratives just as an experiment to try a new form or technique and have no one in mind, it's just an experiment, nothing more, but I'll still post it like my 'A Woman Obsessed'. Just an attempt at a new narrative form for me and meant nothing more than that.
 
I haven't replied to this yet because I was thinking about it on and off for days!

There are a number of things in my life (writing erotica is now one of them) that I do because seeing other people enjoy and appreciate something that I made happen makes me feel wonderful.

I host board game parties with friends, not because I crave the social interaction (I'm highly introverted) but because watching them have fun feels good!

I volunteer for community events sometimes because watching my community come together for something collectively experienced is as close as I get to religion.

The process of writing is enjoyable for me, mostly in the thinking/imagining/plotting process. But if I was only doing it for myself, I wouldn't bother writing all of it down or tweaking and revising and refining. Turning those ideas into a finished whole that I hope other people will be excited by and engage with is what makes me finish it 🥰
 
I haven't replied to this yet because I was thinking about it on and off for days!

There are a number of things in my life (writing erotica is now one of them) that I do because seeing other people enjoy and appreciate something that I made happen makes me feel wonderful.

I host board game parties with friends, not because I crave the social interaction (I'm highly introverted) but because watching them have fun feels good!

I volunteer for community events sometimes because watching my community come together for something collectively experienced is as close as I get to religion.

The process of writing is enjoyable for me, mostly in the thinking/imagining/plotting process. But if I was only doing it for myself, I wouldn't bother writing all of it down or tweaking and revising and refining. Turning those ideas into a finished whole that I hope other people will be excited by and engage with is what makes me finish it 🥰
Agree with this statement on a number of levels. The plotting and imagining is the most fun. The tweaking, revising, editing the most tedious for me. And as nerve-wracking as it can be, since you never know, is the release. Will they like the character (for me the most important element)? The plot? Execution? Anyway back on topic, are there any real negative reasons to write?
 
I write about my fantasies and my real life experiences. I hope to reach like minded people. The experiences that I share, were fun and quite memorable to me. I reread my stories from time to time to keep the flame alive. My late wife read every one of my stories before I published them. We had a lot of fun discussing the details. She typically had one of two statements; 1. I can see us doing this. 2. We would get in so much trouble if we did this.
With the truths in-bedded in my stories, we had great times discussing what we had done and how we felt at the time. We both enjoyed our experiences and we both enjoyed the fantasies.
 
Want to correct a statement I made about character being the most important part for me. There is an exception. I have 2 stories that are absolutely absurd and intended to be so. The characters are there simply to fuel the absurd sex going on. 'Trope 1: The Teacher' and 'The Witching Hour: A Halloween Tale.' Fun, both of them and Halloween story is funny as hell.
 
Not true. I only thought of publishing some time (weeks) after writing my first story. I didn't even know how to publish. Didn't know sites like Literotica existed. It took some guts to actually do it. I wrote because the fantasy was overwhelming and I wanted to preserve it in the best words possible. All subsequent stories followed that path, except I didn't need pluck to publish.
But surely you wanted your subsequent stories to be read, why else did you publish them? and for a story to be read, there must be readers. You may not have started out writing for an audience with your first story, but afterwards, in subsequent stories, didn't part of you consider them? Only you can know this, of course. I should not have said all authors because there are always exceptions and you may be one of them I don't believe there are many folk like you. Best wishes
 
But surely you wanted your subsequent stories to be read, why else did you publish them? and for a story to be read, there must be readers. You may not have started out writing for an audience with your first story, but afterwards, in subsequent stories, didn't part of you consider them? Only you can know this, of course. I should not have said all authors because there are always exceptions and you may be one of them I don't believe there are many folk like you. Best wishes
Sure, I'd like for them to be read. Hoping to find like minded people, just because that's a human thing. But I wrote them for the same reasons I wrote the first one. No thought at all about the readership.

"I don't believe there are many folk like you."
Probably very true. One thing I've had confirmed here in AH and in the broader world of erotica is my life long sense of being different, sometimes unique.
 
I write because I enjoy the process of choosing the words and assembling them into a story. In the two years that I've had this ID, I've written nine or ten stories. My original intention was to post all of my stuff on Lit, but after the first three, I decided that I was just going to write for myself.

I hope its not too late to reply to this topic, I'm genuinely curious what made you decide that in the end? I've known of this site for a long time, read many stories here, considered posting my own of which I have many though only a few are finished. And I am still on the fence about posting.

To answer the OP though : I write for myself, I started my years ago writing down some interesting dreams I had. After some life events and losing all recent progress on my stories due to hard drive failures not once but twice I took quite the break but have recently started writing again and while I still write for me I have begun to write more with the idea in mind that I might at least let some people read them or publish them somewhere and so I am doing my best to write better with that in mind.
 
I hope its not too late to reply to this topic, I'm genuinely curious what made you decide that in the end? I've known of this site for a long time, read many stories here, considered posting my own of which I have many though only a few are finished. And I am still on the fence about posting.

To answer the OP though : I write for myself, I started my years ago writing down some interesting dreams I had. After some life events and losing all recent progress on my stories due to hard drive failures not once but twice I took quite the break but have recently started writing again and while I still write for me I have begun to write more with the idea in mind that I might at least let some people read them or publish them somewhere and so I am doing my best to write better with that in mind.
@BeautyInTheStruggle,
Good morning,
I started writing fiction in 1978 in High School when we got those wonderful "free choice assignments". My first choice was fiction and I wrote exclusively for myself hoping the teacher would find some merit in it. From there it grew until in the 80's to 90's I was writing fiction for publication and competition entries (with some little success) Into the 2000's and I had the pleasure of being included in a volume of short stories that was professionally called for.

I started writing for myself and gradually developed the concept of writing for "the audience".

The thing is, as I have said several times around here, write for yourself first and then dress it up for an audience. You can gauge what sort of audience you are writing for if you have read a bit here. The fact of the matter is YOU will know when you have something to share and you will take the plunge and submit a piece to Lit. To me, being happy with what you have written, within yourself, is the first step to seeking your audience.
Respectfully,
D.

P.S. There are quite a few resources available here for you to improve, if you feel it needs it, your writing.
 
I hope its not too late to reply to this topic, I'm genuinely curious what made you decide that in the end? I've known of this site for a long time, read many stories here, considered posting my own of which I have many though only a few are finished. And I am still on the fence about posting.
I began writing because before we married, my husband was a seafarer. We were apart for months at a time, and ships are usually without internet or telephone connections for weeks at a time, so letter writing remained a major part of our lives. Over time, the letters became longer and more explicit until I began writing lengthy stories with detailed descriptions of places, feelings and of course, the sex acts we were both focused on.

I joined an online writers forum because I wanted to improve my writing, and got hooked on trying to win best story of the week, month, etc. I thought that I was a good writer, but I made several friends on that forum who persuaded me that there was more to writing than plots that you could fit on the back of a bus ticket, and finding ever more obscure synonyms to describe fucking and sucking.

One evening, I chatted with an American guy who told me that he was a retired newspaper editor, and from the few details I told him that night, plus some things he discovered from my stories, he wrote a short story about meeting me in a London park and buying me a coffee on a cold morning. It was just a simple description written in the third person of two strangers meeting in a public place, but it was so good that it unnerved me. Perhaps I gave away more than I intended to, or he was just good at psychology, but he captured the feeling of the place and the emotions of the couple perfectly.

I've been trying to write like this for the last decade and never got anywhere near equalling his description of meeting me in a park. These days, I usually write stories about wayward middle-class Filipinas set in our rather complicated culture. In our society, no one cares if you're a lesbian or in a poly relationship, but a degree of subtlety is required if you want to keep your friends. It's not Lit material unless I put in a lot more physical sex than I want to, so I don't post it on here.
 
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