Why Some People Hate Jews

[JohnEngelman]

In Mein Kampf Hitler wrote:

“While thus examining the working of the Jewish race over long periods of history, the anxious question suddenly occurred to me whether perhaps inscrutable Destiny, for reasons unknown to us poor mortals, had not unalterably decreed the final victory of this little race?”

Hitler also wrote:

“Also, the intellectual abilities were schooled in the course of centuries. Today the Jew is looked upon as ‘clever,’ and in a certain sense he has been so at all times.”

No one who hates Jews thinks Jews are inferior. Jew haters resent Jews because so many of them are intelligent, successful, and prosperous.

Finally, Hitler wrote:

‘I saw the only distinguishing mark [of Jews] in their strange religion. The fact that they had been persecuted on that acount turned my aversion against unfavorable remarks about them almost into abhorrence.”

Hitler did not begin to hate Jews until he had failed in his efforts to become an artist and an architect. Living in Vienna at the time he saw many Jews who had succeeded in either or both of these endeavors.

Joseph Goebbels failed to become a novelist and a playwright.

I have failed at many things. Nevertheless, I have always had a high regard for Jews, Judaism, and Israel.

 

[Hel_Books]

It's always convenient to have someone to direct your people's hate at. For Donald Trump it's the "other" (refugees and migrants picking cabbage, working on construction sites and in meatpacking plants). For the ayatollahs it's the Jews.

 

[Rebel5soul]

It's always convenient to have someone to direct your people's hate at. For Donald Trump it's the "other" (refugees and migrants picking cabbage, working on construction sites and in meatpacking plants). For the ayatollahs it's the Jews.

Yet another example of irrational hatred.

 

[ll74]

Yet another example of irrational hatred.

Yes, it's a feature of the current administration.

That's literally describing the personality of Stephen Miller.

 

[RagnarHairyBreeches]

Consider the Christian aspect. The Jews executed the Christian saviour and every year Christians remind themselves of the execution, at Easter. That's a hell of a slap in the face. It's understandable that Christians hate Jews. Though, time has mellowed that attitude somewhat.

I don't hate Jews. In fact, my family has a smattering of it in my background. I've spent my life being neutral and having no particular bias toward any culture or religion. I'm an athiest. Though, the things you see people do in the name of religion can't help but have an effect on attitudes. Mostly negative. I hate what Netanyahu is doing to Gaza. And I know that not all Israelis think like him, but he is changing my point of view. While what Hamas did to start the conflict was so wrong, the Arab lives in Gaza and the West Bank have been hammered for decades. Netanyahu wants all Arabs dead. He is trying to do to Arabs what Nazis did to Jews during WWII.

 

[ll74]

Consider the Christian aspect. The Jews executed the Christian saviour and every year Christians remind themselves of the execution, at Easter. That's a hell of a slap in the face. It's understandable that Christians hate Jews. Though, time has mellowed that attitude somewhat.

I don't hate Jews. In fact, my family has a smattering of it in my background. I've spent my life being neutral and having no particular bias toward any culture or religion. I'm an athiest. Though, the things you see people do in the name of religion can't help but have an effect on attitudes. Mostly negative. I hate what Netanyahu is doing to Gaza. And I know that not all Israelis think like him, but he is changing my point of view. While what Hamas did to start the conflict was so wrong, the Arab lives in Gaza and the West Bank have been hammered for decades. Netanyahu wants all Arabs dead. He is trying to do to Arabs what Nazis did to Jews during WWII.

What are you trying to say?

Lots of words ....not much substance

 

[Rebel5soul]

Yes, it's a feature of the current administration.

That's literally describing the personality of Stephen Miller.

^^^^^ Hard to believe that anyone could be so ignorant and still manage to remember to breath.

 

[ll74]

^^^^^ Hard to believe that anyone could be so ignorant and still manage to remember to breath.

Lol

Sorry to interfere with your political wanktank.

Does Stephen Miller make you cum when he mentions illegals?

 

[ishtat]

I do not equate hatred of Jews with hatred of Israel or even hatred of the policies of the current Israeli government. The policies of the Israeli government in Gaza are abhorrent and even worse in some respects on the West Bank. It seems to me that other Israelis are the most vehement critics of Netanyahu's policies and actions.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Lol

Sorry to interfere with your political wanktank.

Does Stephen Miller make you cum when he mentions illegals?

Let's see if this gets through to your pea brain.

The illegals are NOT a matter of hate. No emotion at all. It's a matter of law and national sovereignty. I do not hate the cockroaches or mice that attempt to invade my home, but I kill them all the same. No emotion, just a matter of maintaining a safe household. If congress wants the cockroaches to stay in our house, by all means pass a law to allow same. Until then, I don't care if the door hits them in the ass as they're deported.

If Trump truly hated the illegals he wouldn't have created an exception that would later allow those that chose to self-deport to apply for legal entry. The law reads that if you're caught in the country illegally, you are forever banned from legal entry.

The application of emotions to the law are the province to woke pieces of shit. "Feelings, whoa, whoa, feelings." Fuck your feelings. We are a nation of law, not estrogen driven 'feelings.'

 

[ishtat]

Consider the Christian aspect. The Jews executed the Christian saviour and every year Christians remind themselves of the execution, at Easter. That's a hell of a slap in the face. It's understandable that Christians hate Jews. Though, time has mellowed that attitude somewhat.

The Jews did not execute Jesus of Nazareth: the Romans did so; from their point of view he was a half educated country bumpkin stirring up trouble during a religious festival. Crucifiction was a normal and frequently used punishment. Unfortunately the Catholic Church perpetuated the myth that the Jews killed JC until Pius XII said they did not (circa 1955).

The Jesus cult at the time was relatively less popular than that of Cybele throughout the Empire and similar to that of Isis in Rome. Essentially Early Christianity succeeded because it became the official religious prop to the Roman Empire; it was not particularly successful until it's priesthood turned itself into a political movement supporting the Imperial throne.

It is worth noting that 2000 years ago the most prevalent monotheism was Zoroastrianism not Judaism or Christianity - kinda ironic that Jesus spoke Persian Aramaic rather than Hebrew in his daily life.

 

[ll74]

Let's see if this gets through to your pea brain.

The illegals are NOT a matter of hate. No emotion at all. It's a matter of law and national sovereignty. I do not hate the cockroaches or mice that attempt to invade my home, but I kill them all the same. No emotion, just a matter of maintaining a safe household. If congress wants the cockroaches to stay in our house, by all means pass a law to allow same. Until then, I don't care if the door hits them in the ass as they're deported.

"The cockroaches or mice"

Lol

If Trump truly hated the illegals he wouldn't have created an exception that would later allow those that chose to self-deport to apply for legal entry. The law reads that if you're caught in the country illegally, you are forever banned from legal entry.

The application of emotions to the law are the province to woke pieces of shit. "Feelings, whoa, whoa, feelings." Fuck your feelings. We are a nation of law, not estrogen driven 'feelings.'

So you did cum?

 

[JohnEngelman]

Consider the Christian aspect. The Jews executed the Christian saviour

Jesus was executed by the Romans. They feared that Jesus would lead a revolt against the Roman Empire.

"The Jews" who yelled "Give us Barabas" did not represent most Jews living at the time. They certainly did not represent most Jews living since that time.

 

[Buffalogurl]

Jesus was executed by the Romans. They feared that Jesus would lead a revolt against the Roman Empire.

"The Jews" who yelled "Give us Barabas" did not represent most Jews living at the time. They certainly did not represent most Jews living since that time.

No, Jesus was murdered because of a conspiracy of the Sadducees and the Pharisees.....these offspring of the man of perdition.... (which by the way Jesus stated were of their father the devil) lied ( made false witnesses to the Romans) because of the Jewish hierarchy actions are the direct result of the murder of Jesus....
Take the time to read the account of Jesus beating the backs of the "money-changers" and over turning the altars..
Hint, Jesus fashioned a scourge "a knotted rope (think cat-of-nine tails) ".......
Also, just because we/they/them/he/she call out the genocide in gaza does  Not make anyone "antisemitic"...

 

[Hel_Books]

No, Jesus was murdered because of a conspiracy of the Sadducees and the Pharisees.....these offspring of the man of perdition.... (which by the way Jesus stated were of their father the devil) lied ( made false witnesses to the Romans) because of the Jewish hierarchy actions are the direct result of the murder of Jesus....
Take the time to read the account of Jesus beating the backs of the "money-changers" and over turning the altars..
Hint, Jesus fashioned a scourge "a knotted rope (think cat-of-nine tails) ".......
Also, just because we/they/them/he/she call out the genocide in gaza does  Not make anyone "antisemitic"...

Jesus is more of a mythological figure, like Odysseus or Ned Ludd. For example, his birth is supposed to have occurred in a year Caesar Augustus ordered a census, at the time Herod reigned in Judaea and Quirinius was governor of Syria. But Quirinius wasn't governor during Herod's rule and there is no mention of any census during the reign of Augustus by any Roman historian.

The "gospels" were all written down long after the events alleged to have taken place and can no more be relied upon as historically accurate than the account of the Trojan War in the Iliad.

 

[ll74]

Jeebus rode a hot rod

 

[Hel_Books]

Jeebus rode a hot rod

Is that in the new Dan Brown book?

 

[John Connors]

Jeebus rode a hot rod

Well he may have rode yours, but he built mine.

 

[IARainman]

Consider the Christian aspect. The Jews executed the Christian saviour and every year Christians remind themselves of the execution, at Easter. That's a hell of a slap in the face. It's understandable that Christians hate Jews. Though, time has mellowed that attitude somewhat.

I don't hate Jews. In fact, my family has a smattering of it in my background. I've spent my life being neutral and having no particular bias toward any culture or religion. I'm an athiest. Though, the things you see people do in the name of religion can't help but have an effect on attitudes. Mostly negative. I hate what Netanyahu is doing to Gaza. And I know that not all Israelis think like him, but he is changing my point of view. While what Hamas did to start the conflict was so wrong, the Arab lives in Gaza and the West Bank have been hammered for decades. Netanyahu wants all Arabs dead. He is trying to do to Arabs what Nazis did to Jews during WWII.

Except allowing Christianity to be a reason or excuse for anti-Semitism is a patently un-Christian position. First, Christ had to die to fulfill his destiny and in certain theologies, become "God." Second, the core tenant of Christianity is forgiveness. So, even if someone did hate Jews, it's incumbent upon them to forgive. But, alas, people who identify as Christians (and other faiths as well) often pick and choose which components they choose to follow.

 

[ll74]

Well he may have rode yours, but he built mine.

That was what I was aiming for....

 

[JohnEngelman]

Jesus is more of a mythological figure, like Odysseus or Ned Ludd. For example, his birth is supposed to have occurred in a year Caesar Augustus ordered a census, at the time Herod reigned in Judaea and Quirinius was governor of Syria. But Quirinius wasn't governor during Herod's rule and there is no mention of any census during the reign of Augustus by any Roman historian.

The "gospels" were all written down long after the events alleged to have taken place and can no more be relied upon as historically accurate than the account of the Trojan War in the Iliad.

Archaeologists believe that the Trojan War did happen about 1200 BC. Shortly after the Trojan War the Myrcene civilization, which the Greeks had developed at the time, collapsed. The Greeks forgot how to use the Linear script they had invented. For about four centuries illiterate bards with propitious memories told stories of the Greek deities and the Trojan War orally.

About 800 BC the Greeks developed a new alphabet, developed from the Phoenician alphabet. Homer, who was probably one of the bards, learned the new alphabet, and wrote the Iliad and the Odyssey.

All of the Gospels are believed to have been written by the end of the first century A.D. Mark is believed wo have been written first by a trveling compnion of St Peter who was named John Mark. Eusebius claims that the apostle St. Matthew wrote a primitive gospel. Later an author with better writing skills, than St. Matthew, used the primitive gospel by St. Matthew, the Gospel of St. Mark, and another primitive gospel to writ what we know as the Gospel of Matthew.

You can find my review of Eusebius' The History of the Church from Christ to Constantinople, which you can find here:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/57632518-eusebius

St. Luke was a traveling companion of St. Paul. He wrote the Gospel according to St. Luke, and the book of Acts.

All of this is theoretical. I explain it in my review of John A.T. Robinson's book Redating the New Testament, which you can find here:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/591457.Redating_the_New_Testament

 

[ll74]

Do we have a Jew sign up sheet for people here?

Need to know which people to hate or say something about.

Also, any Palestinian sign up sheet?

 

[JohnEngelman]

Do we have a Jew sign up sheet for people here?

Need to know which people to hate or say something about.

Also, any Palestinian sign up sheet?

I will sign the Judeophile sheet.

 

[Lazaran]

I do not equate hatred of Jews with hatred of Israel or even hatred of the policies of the current Israeli government. The policies of the Israeli government in Gaza are abhorrent and even worse in some respects on the West Bank. It seems to me that other Israelis are the most vehement critics of Netanyahu's policies and actions.

The loudest critics of “Israel’s MAGAts” (Netanyahu, Smotrich, Ben-Gvir, etc) ARE the other decent, intelligent Israelis / FREE Jews worldwide who know them the best. And the criticisms are justified to a large degree. But for the time being, there is a countervailing "evil" (Hamas, Iran, Russia, North Korea, etc) that requires some tolerance of the more extreme policies of Israel’s MAGAts. (I would submit that DonOld & the "American" MAGAts are faaaaaar worse than “Israel’s MAGAts”, because there really was / is no comparable "evil" directing a genocidal attack on the U.S., yet DonOld & the MAGAt republicans are attacking the entire world AND democracy itself.)

That ^ said.

I bet the loudest critics of Putin, Xi, Kim, the ayatollah, Hamas, etc, WOULD BE their fellow countrymen- IF they had the FREEDOM to criticize them (Navalny, etc, tried in Russia… And "god" only knows what happened/ happens to those who criticize their dear leaders in some of those other countries).


Bottom line:

All things considered, the Israeli government, and the decent, intelligent Israelis / FREE Jews worldwide are conducting themselves as one would expect under these inarguably challenging & controversial conditions.



That ^ CANNOT be said about maaaaany other countries / peoples around the world.



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

No, Jesus was murdered because of a conspiracy of the Sadducees and the Pharisees.....these offspring of the man of perdition.... (which by the way Jesus stated were of their father the devil) lied ( made false witnesses to the Romans) because of the Jewish hierarchy actions are the direct result of the murder of Jesus....
Take the time to read the account of Jesus beating the backs of the "money-changers" and over turning the altars..
Hint, Jesus fashioned a scourge "a knotted rope (think cat-of-nine tails) ".......
Also, just because we/they/them/he/she call out the genocide in gaza does  Not make anyone "antisemitic"...

Modern Judaism was founded on the Judaism of the Pharisees who saw the teaching of the Torah as primary and rejected the powerful elites. There is no genocide being committed in Gaza. That a slur invented to tar the reputation of Israel.