Rejected because of AI I never used. What now?

[YourDirtyLittleIssues]

I am pretty upset because I just had a story sent back with a note about using AI. I did not use any AI or even any grammar/spell tools besides the spell checker in my WP package. I am actually a published writer and I write my own content 100%.

The message said volunteer editors couldn't help with AI rejections. So if I didn't use AI, but I can't get guidance on how to address whatever triggered this issue, I am beyond flummoxed on how to proceed.

I would be grateful for guidance because I am really upset right now.

Thank you.

 

[PennyThompson]

The message said volunteer editors couldn't help with AI rejections.

Are you sure you read the rejection message correctly? Because other people who have had stories rejected for AI use have gotten messages that say getting the help of someone from Lit's Volunteer Editor program COULD help get their story approved.

AwkwardMD has a thread about dealing with AI rejections that might be helpful too!

 

[YourDirtyLittleIssues]

Are you sure you read the rejection message correctly? Because other people who have had stories rejected for AI use have gotten messages that say getting the help of someone from Lit's Volunteer Editor program COULD help get their story approved.

AwkwardMD has a thread about dealing with AI rejections that might be helpful too!

Thank you for the reply. The rejection message I received contains the following line:

>> NOTE: the sentence at the end of this response [[Please feel free to re-submit the story after a Volunteer Editor has examined it, or after you've made revisions.]] does not apply to stories rejected for content or AI issues. Volunteer Editors can help only with grammar, punctuation, and story mechanics issues and are not equipped to deal with AI issues. You may resubmit after you’ve made revisions. <<

I will take your advice and look into seeking help from an editor this weekend. But the message pretty clearly indicates otherwise.

Again, thank you for your guidance.

 

[Bamagan]

I believe what that means is that the volunteer editors do not have access to whatever tool the site uses to flag suspected AI content, nor any specific guidelines for dealing with specialized rejections.
There are dozens of AI-related threads here you can peruse, with largely similar advice on things one can try, but Penny already linked you to a pretty good one.

 

[FrancesScott]

I am pretty upset because I just had a story sent back with a note about using AI. I did not use any AI or even any grammar/spell tools besides the spell checker in my WP package. I am actually a published writer and I write my own content 100%.

The message said volunteer editors couldn't help with AI rejections. So if I didn't use AI, but I can't get guidance on how to address whatever triggered this issue, I am beyond flummoxed on how to proceed.

I would be grateful for guidance because I am really upset right now.

Thank you.

https://forum.literotica.com/thread...-this-is-what-it-said.1637354/#post-101268648

 

[FrancesScott]

I am pretty upset because I just had a story sent back with a note about using AI. I did not use any AI or even any grammar/spell tools besides the spell checker in my WP package. I am actually a published writer and I write my own content 100%.

The message said volunteer editors couldn't help with AI rejections. So if I didn't use AI, but I can't get guidance on how to address whatever triggered this issue, I am beyond flummoxed on how to proceed.

I would be grateful for guidance because I am really upset right now.

Thank you.

Why am I doing this again?

Publish a short extract here - no more than two paragraphs.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Why am I doing this again?

Publish a short extract here - no more than two paragraphs.

Because you are new, and not quite used to it yet. Also, trying to be helpful, to give others a break.

 

[YourDirtyLittleIssues]

Thank you all for your assistance. I am going to flip over to the AwkwardMD's thread. I appreciate your kindness!!!

 

[FrancesScott]

Thank you all for your assistance. I am going to flip over to the AwkwardMD's thread. I appreciate your kindness!!!

Hey,

The offer is still open as you got precisely nowhere in the other thread. No one but Laurel knows what actually happens. We’re all just groping in the dark. No one has privileged knowledge, no matter what they may like to claim. But happy to give an equally uniformed opinion, which has as much standing as anyone else’s, and is at least based on some knowledge of LLMs.

 

[Rob_Royale]

How's your dialog? Do you commonly write using contractions? How about commonly shortened or merged words like 'gonna' or 'doin' or 'wanna'? Ain't?
Maybe try harder to write dialog how people really speak, which I don't believe is something AI does. Yet.

 

[FrancesScott]

How's your dialog? Do you commonly write using contractions? How about commonly shortened or merged words like 'gonna' or 'doin' or 'wanna'? Ain't?
Maybe try harder to write dialog how people really speak, which I don't believe is something AI does. Yet.

“Aw, don’t you fret none, sugar,” Mae said, wiping her hands on her apron. “Ain’t nothin’ we cain’t handle, long as we got a pot o’ coffee and some daylight left.”

Billy shook his head. “I reckon you’re right, but Lord have mercy, it’s hotter’n blue blazes out here. You sure you wanna haul these boxes now?”

“Well, I ain’t waitin’ ‘til the skeeters come out, I’ll tell ya that much,” Mae said with a laugh. “Now quit jawin’ and grab that end, or I’ll do it m’self.”

— ChatGPT

 

[FrancesScott]

“Aw, don’t you fret none, sugar,” Mae said, wiping her hands on her apron. “Ain’t nothin’ we cain’t handle, long as we got a pot o’ coffee and some daylight left.”

Billy shook his head. “I reckon you’re right, but Lord have mercy, it’s hotter’n blue blazes out here. You sure you wanna haul these boxes now?”

“Well, I ain’t waitin’ ‘til the skeeters come out, I’ll tell ya that much,” Mae said with a laugh. “Now quit jawin’ and grab that end, or I’ll do it m’self.”

— ChatGPT

“grab that end, or I’ll do it m’self”

Is an interesting writing prompt…

 

[Rob_Royale]

“Aw, don’t you fret none, sugar,” Mae said, wiping her hands on her apron. “Ain’t nothin’ we cain’t handle, long as we got a pot o’ coffee and some daylight left.”

Billy shook his head. “I reckon you’re right, but Lord have mercy, it’s hotter’n blue blazes out here. You sure you wanna haul these boxes now?”

“Well, I ain’t waitin’ ‘til the skeeters come out, I’ll tell ya that much,” Mae said with a laugh. “Now quit jawin’ and grab that end, or I’ll do it m’self.”

— ChatGPT

I stand corrected.

 

[FrancesScott]

I stand corrected.

ChatGPT does great pastiches. In fact that’s a pretty good description of what it does.

It looks at your question and works out factors about it, like certain words or phrases that match its own records. Then it looks up what answers are associated with those factors and provides a statistically approximated answer of its own, based on what millions of humans had said and written associated with those factors. [this is a vast over-simplification, of course]

It’s like being asked “pick a whole number between one and ten” and it replying “7” as that’s the most frequent reply. There is no magic, no understanding, no homunculus, just a lot of statistical inference.

I don’t mean for a second that machines can’t think. Humans are advanced biological machines and it’s generally accepted that some of us think. It’s entirely possible that some in silico systems will think in the future, just not LLMs, which are pretty much a confidence trick.

 

[YourDirtyLittleIssues]

Why am I doing this again?

Publish a short extract here - no more than two paragraphs.

I really appreciate that. I am getting towards the "about to give up" phase. Here is the summary I posted in the other thread:

SUMMARY: The story is part 4 of my thread "The A in DNA", an anal, lesbian incest story, that is sort of transitioning into a fantasy story. In this episode, the main character (a cockgirl) and her birth mother and grandmother with whom she was reunited previously in the series, discover the secret basement studio & dungeon of a grand-aunt who is controlling the family's fortunes. They are caught by the grand-aunt's daughter, and they begin plotting the take down of the controlling grand-aunt. They also discover a family prophecy that the main character appears to be at the center of. Lots of freaky sex ensues, and biological changes happen to some of the characters, including the main character.

 

[FrancesScott]

I really appreciate that. I am getting towards the "about to give up" phase. Here is the summary I posted in the other thread:

SUMMARY: The story is part 4 of my thread "The A in DNA", an anal, lesbian incest story, that is sort of transitioning into a fantasy story. In this episode, the main character (a cockgirl) and her birth mother and grandmother with whom she was reunited previously in the series, discover the secret basement studio & dungeon of a grand-aunt who is controlling the family's fortunes. They are caught by the grand-aunt's daughter, and they begin plotting the take down of the controlling grand-aunt. They also discover a family prophecy that the main character appears to be at the center of. Lots of freaky sex ensues, and biological changes happen to some of the characters, including the main character.

The summary isn’t what’s flagging you, it’s the actual text. Are you able to post say 200 - 300 words? Don’t post more as Lit takes a dim view of people posting large tracts from works that have been rejected.

If you don’t want to give away your opening, pick two or three paragraphs from the middle. Absolutely no guarantee this will lead to anything.

 

[Rob_Royale]

ChatGPT does great pastiches. In fact that’s a pretty good description of what it does.

It looks at your question and works out factors about it, like certain words or phrases that match its own records. Then it looks up what answers are associated with those factors and provides a statistically approximated answer of its own, based on what millions of humans had said and written associated with those factors. [this is a vast over-simplification, of course]

It’s like being asked “pick a whole number between one and ten” and it replying “7” as that’s the most frequent reply. There is no magic, no understanding, no homunculus, just a lot of statistical inference.

I don’t mean for a second that machines can’t think. Humans are advanced biological machines and it’s generally accepted that some of us think. It’s entirely possible that some in silico systems will think in the future, just not LLMs, which are pretty much a confidence trick.

But would it use that sort of lingo if it wasn't asked to? If you asked for a dialog of two men playing chess in a park, would it decide that one was from the deep south and another from Boston and use the expected lingo one would expect from such people?

 

[FrancesScott]

But would it use that sort of lingo if it wasn't asked to? If you asked for a dialog of two men playing chess in a park, would it decide that one was from the deep south and another from Boston and use the expected lingo one would expect from such people?

It never creates anything. It leverages existing work by others but very quickly. It will only do what you ask it to do. LLMs are not intelligent. They just do statistical inference super quickly as a lot of it has been preprocessed.

AGI on the other hand would be intelligent, by definition. LLMs will never be the basis of AGI, they are a dead end from a study of consciousness POV. They can be very useful to get a basic summary of a complex area quickly (based only on what others have said), but that’s about it.

 

[Erozetta]

“Aw, dDon’t you fret none, sugarh,” Mae said while wiping her hands on her apron. “Ain’t nothin’ we cain’t handle, long as we got a pot a o’ coffee an'd some daylight left.”

Billy shook his head. “I reckon yurou’re right, but Lord ha've mercy, it’s hotter’n blue blazes out here. Yaou sure yaou wanna haul these boxes now?” (The first Ya in this could be nixed as well for "Sure ya wanna...")

“Well, I ain’t waitin’ fixin' ta wait ‘til the skeeters come out, I’ll tell ya that much,” Mae said with a laugh. “Now quit yer yappin' jawin’ 'n and grab that end, or I’mmall do it m’self.”

— ChatGPT

My edits would be in red

 

[YourDirtyLittleIssues]

The summary isn’t what’s flagging you, it’s the actual text. Are you able to post say 200 - 300 words? Don’t post more as Lit takes a dim view of people posting large tracts from works that have been rejected.

If you don’t want to give away your opening, pick two or three paragraphs from the middle. Absolutely no guarantee this will lead to anythiI

I have no worries posting any of it, it will end up here eventually I hope. And there's nothing secret about the opening. Here you go:

Chapter 1

Alex pulled open the wardrobe. It was full of lingerie – both lace and leather were well-represented – and a variety of toys, from dildos to whips. The dongs were...immense...and were of all kinds of shapes and sizes. Plus an extensive supply of personal hygiene products for getting all clean inside.

A short passageway at the side of the room led to a dungeon – the kind used for fun – with a cam hookup.

Olive smirked. “Violet, you little whore. You come down her and stretch your ass for money.”

“She’s already got plenty of that…” Nora shot back. “She’s doing this to get off. I had no idea.”

Olive took a picture of the bed and the room and did an image search. “Look at this, she’s got her own site, a channel on PornHub, an OF, everything. She...wow. Check this out.”

The other women took a seat as Olive flipped through the PH channel. It was loaded with short, three-minute clips of Violet, clearly meant to lure folks towards her paying content. It was hot and filthy.

“No wonder she didn’t want Nora to have an Insta page,” Alex said. “She didn’t want competition.”

Katrina swore. “She’s not just a controlling bitch, she’s a hypocrite. God this makes me so mad.”

“But, wow, this shit’s hot,” Nora said, a flush illuminating her bust, neck, and face.

“Let’s see what the paying customers see,” Olive said, opening another tab on her browser. “Another perk of being a lawyer and knowing people.” She filled out the form to request an account, putting in seemingly some other person’s credit card. A moment later they were into Violet’s OF site.

“Holy shit,” Alex murmured. The place was a cornucopia of filth.

 

[FrancesScott]

On a cursory inspection, that reads as human to me. A few awkward phrases, then you should read my stuff…

It doesn’t read like any of the other text that I’ve seen being rejected. It’s not formulaic, it’s not weirdly repetitive, it has little touches. It’s not super-bland. It doesn’t have weird structures suggestive of translation.

Based just on the snippet, I can see what the problem might be.

 

[YourDirtyLittleIssues]

On a cursory inspection, that reads as human to me. A few awkward phrases, then you should read my stuff…

It doesn’t read like any of the other text that I’ve seen being rejected. It’s not formulaic, it’s not weirdly repetitive, it has little touches. It’s not super-bland. It doesn’t have weird structures suggestive of translation.

Based just on the snippet, I can see what the problem might be.

Last night I ran the story through a couple of free online AI "detectors" and my scores always came up in the 0 - 2% chance of the story being AI-generated. Do you think it would be worth reaching out to an editor? There seems to be a line where the editors are able to help if a person used some kind of an editing software to help them out, but there appears to be hesitation in helping someone like myself who did not use any of these tools but still got axed. I can kind of understand that - editors don't want to be in the business of helping people outwit the AI detection - but it leaves me twisting in the wind.

 

[FrancesScott]

Last night I ran the story through a couple of free online AI "detectors" and my scores always came up in the 0 - 2% chance of the story being AI-generated. Do you think it would be worth reaching out to an editor? There seems to be a line where the editors are able to help if a person used some kind of an editing software to help them out, but there appears to be hesitation in helping someone like myself who did not use any of these tools but still got axed. I can kind of understand that - editors don't want to be in the business of helping people outwit the AI detection - but it leaves me twisting in the wind.

I think you need to have a convo with Laurel. There are all sorts here who claim privileged knowledge, but are just as clueless as the rest of us. It’s like a kink for some I think.

PM @Laurel and explain. Cite the story name. Be polite.

 

[YourDirtyLittleIssues]

I think you need to have a convo with Laurel. There are all sorts here who claim privileged knowledge, but are just as clueless as the rest of us. It’s like a kink for some I think.

PM @Laurel and explain. Cite the story name. Be polite.

I really appreciate your time and insight. I am guessing Laurel is fairly busy and I am hesitant to bother her, but I will give it some thought. Thank you again for taking the time to work through this with me, I am grateful.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

Thanks for posting the snippet, O.P.

I'll be honest with you, there are some aspects of your writing (the little bit that I've seen, anyway) that could seem AI-ish. I don't feel it's appropriate to dissect your sentences, though.
The hard truth is that, unless you are that desperate to publish your work here and unless you are willing to make some radical changes, there isn't much help to be had. No one here truly knows what triggers the algorithm that Laurel uses; I completely agree with Frances there. We are only guessing, based on a relatively small amount of experience.

You should also keep in mind that even if your work resembles AI-generated content in some aspects, that's not necessarily a bad thing. AI, while not a great writer, is hardly less competent than the average Lit author. The fact that AI-generated content isn't allowed on Literotica is a matter of principle, not quality. And it's a principle I fully support, even if Literotica should provide more guidance in such cases.

Finally, what are your options? Assuming you wrote your story yourself, anything you'd change in it would be to satisfy some arbitrary algorithm. It wouldn't necessarily make your story better.
Is it worth changing the way you write just to satisfy an algorithm and ultimately be allowed to publish here?
Only you can answer that.
If you are willing to go to such lengths, I am sure people in AH will have plenty of advice on how to make your text seem less AI-ish, at least in the sense of what we see as AI-ish.