Net Zero Collapses

[icanhelp1]

I understand that. The self-congratulatory drivel of the religious and right-wing extremist nutcases really gets on my nerves.
Sometimes my abysmal contempt bursts out of me. That's not a sign of good behaviour.

Perhaps you should pay more attention to who lobs most of the insults, you'd be surprised. Most, if not all, right leaning conservative opinions on Lit are not extreme. However should you disagree with lit's lefties be prepared for the bro posse to assemble on cue and immediately ride in to save the day. Usually with a bombardment of insults, name calling, unintelligible phraseology and a whole assortment of emojis. Then there's the *I have nothing to offer* crowd become Lit's ridiculous historians of past postings and grammar Nazis.

 

[Politruk]

Most, if not all, right leaning conservative opinions on Lit are not extreme.

You have not been paying attention.

 

[Meekly_Anna]

Perhaps you should pay more attention to who lobs most of the insults, you'd be surprised. Most, if not all, right leaning conservative opinions on Lit are not extreme. However should you disagree with lit's lefties be prepared for the bro posse to assemble on cue and immediately ride in to save the day. Usually with a bombardment of insults, name calling, unintelligible phraseology and a whole assortment of emojis. Then there's the *I have nothing to offer* crowd become Lit's ridiculous historians of past postings and grammar Nazis.

May I quote?
Libtards, febrile Dems, ...
Ah, forget it. You made a statement, prove it. Count comments and insults.
Determine the mean and median, the standard deviation, etc.
In short, make an analysis and share it here, then we'll talk further. Apart from that, you're way off topic. It's not at all about who insulted who more, it's about you guys just shutting the fuck up if you have nothing factual to contribute instead of just pointlessly insulting each other.

 

[Rightguide]

It’s amusing that MAGA sheep have adopted the term “net zero” without understanding what it means.

Mindless sheep.

What you understand it to be is collapsing.

 

[ll74]

https://www.enr.com/articles/60307-...in-california-will-close-units-as-tech-shifts

https://www.solarinsure.com/the-complete-list-of-solar-bankruptcies-and-business-closures

https://time.com/6565415/rooftop-solar-industry-collapse/

And this 'collapse' was observed three years ago by the State of California:

https://calssa.org/press-releases/2...d-rooftop-solar-incentives-new-analysis-shows

None of that is a collapse. Lots of companies shuttering as they consolidate. That happens as markets sort themselves out. That time article is laughable.

My neighborhood has seen four houses in the last month get new solar panels

What we have seen is old solar get replaced with new as technology advances.

 

[Rightguide]

According to calculations by the International Monetary Fund (IMF), global direct and indirect subsidies for fossil fuels (including oil and gas) totalled seven trillion US dollars in 2022.
Against this background, to claim that renewable energies are too expensive demonstrates a disconcerting lack of knowledge of the subject.
In fact, renewable energies are significantly cheaper, even in the USA, where the price of electricity is highly subsidised.

By the way, could you people please stop this preschoolish 'you are an idiot' 'no, you are'? It's tiring.

And yes, let’s all agree: renewables are “significantly cheaper,” so cheap, in fact, that they require constant subsidies, mandates, tax credits, and moral panic campaigns to stay afloat. So cheap that we need rolling blackouts to help us "adjust" to their efficiency. And as for the U.S. electricity market being “highly subsidized,” do point out which subsidies don’t benefit wind farms, solar arrays, and billionaire grifters with climate grant empires.

 

[Meekly_Anna]

What you understand it to be is collapsing.

Ok, basics of systems theory.
Networks consisting of many entities are much more stable than those consisting of a few. Decentralised networks are simply more stable. In addition, large power plants are much less flexible and sluggish. The only reason your party is so much in favour is because the API is spending billions to buy exactly that.
Oil and gas are dead and that's a good thing.

 

[icanhelp1]

May I quote?
Libtards, febrile Dems, ...
Ah, forget it. You made a statement, prove it. Count comments and insults.
Determine the mean and median, the standard deviation, etc.
In short, make an analysis and share it here, then we'll talk further. Apart from that, you're way off topic. It's not at all about who insulted who more, it's about you guys just shutting the fuck up if you have nothing factual to contribute instead of just pointlessly insulting each other.

Standard deviations???? It's a porn site! Most posters wouldn't know what a standard deviation was or is if it bit them on the ass.

Now rest assured some google button *cut and paste cultist* will look it up and post to prove he's above the intellectual fray when in actuality it has the equivalent of a third grade education.

 

[MajorRewrite]

And yes, let’s all agree: renewables are “significantly cheaper,” so cheap, in fact, that they require constant subsidies, mandates, tax credits, and moral panic campaigns to stay afloat. So cheap that we need rolling blackouts to help us "adjust" to their efficiency. And as for the U.S. electricity market being “highly subsidized,” do point out which subsidies don’t benefit wind farms, solar arrays, and billionaire grifters with climate grant empires.

Totally Fact Free RightGuide.

 

[MaturemanAJ]

‘Net Zero’ Is Collapsing in U.S. States​

13 hours ago

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From MasterResource
By Steve Goreham

From New York to California, state renewable electrical power dreams are collapsing. Power demands soar, while the federal government cuts funding and support for wind, solar, and grid batteries. Renewables cannot provide enough power to support the artificial intelligence revolution. The Net Zero electricity transition is failing in the United States.

For the last two decades, state governments have embraced policies aimed at replacing coal and natural gas power plants with renewable sources. Twenty-three states enacted laws or executive orders to move to 100% Net Zero electricity by 2050. Onshore and offshore wind, utility-scale and rooftop solar, and grid-scale batteries were heavily promoted by states and most federal administrations.

The New York State Climate Action Scoping Plan of 2022 called for 70% renewable electricity by 2030 and 100% by 2040. But 49.7% of the state’s electricity came from gas in 2024, up from 47.7% in 2023. A January executive order issued by President Trump halted federal leases for construction of offshore wind systems. New York, nine other east coast states, and California were counting on offshore wind in efforts to get to 100% renewable electricity, but new offshore wind projects are now halted.

Wind and solar have benefited from federal tax credits, loans, and outright grants since 1992. But the Trump administration is now working to slash federal government support for these technologies. The One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBB) passed the House of Representatives on May 22. The bill eliminates Production Tax Credits and Investment Tax Credits for renewable systems that begin construction later than 60 days after passage of the bill or for projects that do not complete construction by year end 2028. The bill also halts the sale of tax credits from renewable projects. If the Senate passes the bill, these measures will choke off green energy projects that have relied on federal funding for decades.

More here: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/06/16/net-zero-is-collapsing-in-u-s-states/

Just keep buying that China crap and let's see the outcome

 

[icanhelp1]

Ok, basics of systems theory.
Networks consisting of many entities are much more stable than those consisting of a few. Decentralised networks are simply more stable. In addition, large power plants are much less flexible and sluggish. The only reason your party is so much in favour is because the API is spending billions to buy exactly that.
Oil and gas are dead and that's a good thing.

But compact modular nuclear powerplants can provide for grid size energy needs at a cost effective price.

 

[Politruk]

But compact modular nuclear powerplants can provide for grid size energy needs at a cost effective price.

That's another thing -- how come nuclear power plants exist on submarines, but nothing that small is ever built on the ground?

 

[Meekly_Anna]

Standard deviations???? It's a porn site! Most posters wouldn't know what a standard deviation was or is if it bit them on the ass.

Now rest assured some google button *cut and paste cultist* will look it up and post to prove he's above the intellectual fray when in actuality it has the equivalent of a third grade education.

Now that you mention it...
Do you want to impregnate liberal women?
Or get fucked up your little arse with a strap-on while they read you your civil rights?
Or are you more into perky Mexicans banging your crush while you watch?

 

[MajorRewrite]

But compact modular nuclear powerplants can provide for grid size energy needs at a cost effective price.

That’s the point at which you should provide data to support your statement.

Either that or just continue to be Totally Fact Free icanhelp.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

Now that you mention it...
Do you want to impregnate liberal women?
Or get fucked up your little arse with a strap-on while they read you your civil rights?
Or are you more into perky Mexicans banging your crush while you watch?

That's the spirit!

 

[AlexBailey]

But compact modular nuclear powerplants can provide for grid size energy needs at a cost effective price.

How’s the supply line for uranium?
Anyone getting exposed to toxic levels? Transportation all safe and secure? Waste facilities all safe and secure? Is industry going to cover all costs, no government subsidies or spending on containment and security?

Please illuminate these issues for us.

 

[icanhelp1]

Now that you mention it...
Do you want to impregnate liberal women?
Or get fucked up your little arse with a strap-on while they read you your civil rights?
Or are you more into perky Mexicans banging your crush while you watch?

You mentioned it not me. You Limeys seem to be quite knowledgeable on the subject matter, why don't you share with us your preferences.

 

[ll74]

The only thing this thread is about is based on a known skeptic of green energy and the site he posted is aligned.

I other words, it's an agenda not an actual post of merit.

 

[icanhelp1]

That’s the point at which you should provide data to support your statement.

Either that or just continue to be Totally Fact Free icanhelp.

In the past I've posted several times on nuclear power. I'm not doing it again. You look it up.

 

[Politruk]

You have not been paying attention.

This, for instance -- pretty damn extreme!

 

[icanhelp1]

Ok, basics of systems theory.
Networks consisting of many entities are much more stable than those consisting of a few. Decentralised networks are simply more stable. In addition, large power plants are much less flexible and sluggish. The only reason your party is so much in favour is because the API is spending billions to buy exactly that.
Oil and gas are dead and that's a good thing.

There needs to be a comprehensive approach to our energy needs especially with the onset of AI.

 

[icanhelp1]

That’s the point at which you should provide data to support your statement.

Either that or just continue to be Totally Fact Free icanhelp.

Even Biden was in favor of advancing nuclear power as demonstrated by signing the *ADVANCE ACT* which was a good move on his part.

 

[ll74]

Even Biden was in favor of advancing nuclear power as demonstrated by signing the *ADVANCE ACT* which was a good move on his part.

Yep - he's the reason why we're building more nuclear plants.

And Trump has tried to take credit for it.

 

[Politruk]

There need to be a comprehensive approach to our energy needs especially with the onset of AI.

We'll let AI figure it out for us. What could go wrong?

 

[Politruk]

But compact modular nuclear powerplants can provide for grid size energy needs at a cost effective price.

That's another thing -- how come nuclear power plants exist on submarines, but nothing that small is ever built on the ground?