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I'm not sure the best phrasing for this question so bear with me ...


Are there kinks where - even though they aren't really your thing - you find a little way in to finding them sexy? Some kinks are big boxes and while 99.9% of the contents aren't your thing. Maybe there's .1% that you can really appreciate if nothing else.

I have a few of these but as an example ((this)) picture piqued my interest. Leather and latex doesn't really do it for me but this particular use of it is incredibly erotic to me.

Does anyone have anything else like that? It'll be our little secret. šŸ˜‰
I’m so aggressively not a joiner I don’t think there’s any kink I’d cop to. But there’s plenty of kink related aesthetics I appreciate.

Shibari being the first thing that comes to mind. I can’t even tie a knot! 🤣
 
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I’m so aggressively not a joiner I don’t think there’s any kink I’d cop to. But there’s plenty of kink related aesthetics I appreciate.

Shibari being the first thing that comes to mind. I can’t even tie a knot! 🤣
I'm the same about Shibari at least. It's so pretty!

To answer the question, yes. Sometimes just the fact that another person I'm into likes it, is enough for me.
 
I'm not sure the best phrasing for this question so bear with me ...


Are there kinks where - even though they aren't really your thing - you find a little way in to finding them sexy? Some kinks are big boxes and while 99.9% of the contents aren't your thing. Maybe there's .1% that you can really appreciate if nothing else.

I have a few of these but as an example ((this)) picture piqued my interest. Leather and latex doesn't really do it for me but this particular use of it is incredibly erotic to me.

Does anyone have anything else like that? It'll be our little secret. šŸ˜‰
Is it possible for me to find something interesting if my partner does? Yes. I have an ex who liked being scratched by sharp metal wearable claws and I'm not into using those but with her it was fun. After we split? No interest in picking that up as a 'me' thing.

I've said a few times on here that I think, for me, there are definitely 'me' things that I'll always be interested in and 'within a dynamic' things that don't really interest me outside that specific dynamic.

But, someone else being into something absolutely doesn't guarantee I will want to go there, and I've had times of saying I'm just not interested - another ex was curious about men in feminine underwear, but that's not something I wish to try.

Also @SalaciousMonkey22 makes a good point about aesthetics - something can be visually appealing in a non-erotic or not-very-erotic way and still not be something that I want to experience. Pulpy's latex gif is is a great example - the colours, as she and @lavendersilk mentioned, are striking and the movement is smooth and it's an interesting scene. But... it's not erotic to me at all! Aesthetically interesting, though.
 
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I'm not sure the best phrasing for this question so bear with me ...


Are there kinks where - even though they aren't really your thing - you find a little way in to finding them sexy? Some kinks are big boxes and while 99.9% of the contents aren't your thing. Maybe there's .1% that you can really appreciate if nothing else.

I have a few of these but as an example ((this)) picture piqued my interest. Leather and latex doesn't really do it for me but this particular use of it is incredibly erotic to me.

Does anyone have anything else like that? It'll be our little secret. šŸ˜‰
Mini PLP Blog Moment -

You know the drill - filth will follow as payment for reading.

This question of the categorizations of kink has been on my mind lately. It seems like branches on the most deviant tree ever. The idea that if I say I don’t like X that I might be ruling out all the little micro-kinks (copyright that!) that fall under the big label for the kink. It’s one of the things about labels - they can only do so much. They can broadly sort things but ultimately there’s just too much nuance and conversation around everything to slap a label on it and keep it moving. And those conversations are some of the best parts of kink. For me, it’s like foreplay and that feeling of having your mind opened to an idea or seeing a kink from a new angle is so cool.

I feel like I fall oddly in a gap around Lit. On one side, I seem to be far far less vanilla than most people in the PG, which is absolutely fine. Vanilla is everyone’s favorite for a reason. Most of the other kinkier people (women especially) have taken their leave from Lit for various reasons but have left a void that I really feel - looking at you WildHoney . I miss the broad range of ideas and the gentle push of what I thought were my boundaries around some topics often. On the other side, because of ā€œlifeā€, I get to exercise my kinkier side far less often than I’d like and I don’t often feel like I’d have much to add to a discussion anyway. Maybe this is just an Ancient One’s wistful aside about ā€œthe good old daysā€? šŸ‘µ

Back to the branches on the Kink Tree 🌳. I imagine sex is the trunk and there are many large limbs branching off. You may take the limb labeled ā€œBlowjobsā€ and follow it to many secondary branches like ā€œDeep Throatingā€ ā€œSloppyā€ or ā€œGentle Mouth Fuckā€. One thing can lead to another, and you have a thriving branch of kinky possibility where you can pick and choose a leafy bouquet of interests. BUT what if you like one tiny leaf 🌿 on a branch and nothing else on it? What if, as an example, you’re in no way into pee play …but… the idea of having to hold it until there’s permission. I can see the appeal. Do I need to subscribe to the whole branch just for one leaf? No. So we avoid little things we may enjoy because we don’t want to interact with the *big thing*. Is anyone following this gibberish?

This also extends to kinks (or sexual desires - I’m definitely using kink liberally here) where I wish I felt more comfortable because I absolutely see the appeal but something about me won’t allow me to relax into that role. Example, I like the ultra feminine princess girl vibe, I find the aesthetic hot and am mostly attracted to that type of girl. Do I exude ultra feminine princess energy? Certainly not but… I wish I did sometimes. What branch do I land on then?

I’m not sure there are answers and I’m not looking for any but I do like to think about these things and talk about them. I don’t like to rule things out without really knowing all the things I might be ruling out (I mean obvious and illegal stuff aside c’mon šŸ˜‘). It’s more than trying to avoid kink shaming but an appreciation of understanding what turns people on and why it does. I don’t want to yuck your yum. I want a tasting plate of all your yums! They might become my yums too. šŸ˜‹
 
I'm not sure the best phrasing for this question so bear with me ...


Are there kinks where - even though they aren't really your thing - you find a little way in to finding them sexy? Some kinks are big boxes and while 99.9% of the contents aren't your thing. Maybe there's .1% that you can really appreciate if nothing else.

I have a few of these but as an example ((this)) picture piqued my interest. Leather and latex doesn't really do it for me but this particular use of it is incredibly erotic to me.

Does anyone have anything else like that? It'll be our little secret. šŸ˜‰
MFM threesomes are really not my thing. But if I suspect that's my partner's thing, I'm open to exploring that through fantasy play, RP, toys, or other alternatives (including but not limited to headless Greek statues).
 
Mini PLP Blog Moment -

You know the drill - filth will follow as payment for reading.

This question of the categorizations of kink has been on my mind lately. It seems like branches on the most deviant tree ever. The idea that if I say I don’t like X that I might be ruling out all the little micro-kinks (copyright that!) that fall under the big label for the kink. It’s one of the things about labels - they can only do so much. They can broadly sort things but ultimately there’s just too much nuance and conversation around everything to slap a label on it and keep it moving. And those conversations are some of the best parts of kink. For me, it’s like foreplay and that feeling of having your mind opened to an idea or seeing a kink from a new angle is so cool.

I feel like I fall oddly in a gap around Lit. On one side, I seem to be far far less vanilla than most people in the PG, which is absolutely fine. Vanilla is everyone’s favorite for a reason. Most of the other kinkier people (women especially) have taken their leave from Lit for various reasons but have left a void that I really feel - looking at you WildHoney . I miss the broad range of ideas and the gentle push of what I thought were my boundaries around some topics often. On the other side, because of ā€œlifeā€, I get to exercise my kinkier side far less often than I’d like and I don’t often feel like I’d have much to add to a discussion anyway. Maybe this is just an Ancient One’s wistful aside about ā€œthe good old daysā€? šŸ‘µ

Back to the branches on the Kink Tree 🌳. I imagine sex is the trunk and there are many large limbs branching off. You may take the limb labeled ā€œBlowjobsā€ and follow it to many secondary branches like ā€œDeep Throatingā€ ā€œSloppyā€ or ā€œGentle Mouth Fuckā€. One thing can lead to another, and you have a thriving branch of kinky possibility where you can pick and choose a leafy bouquet of interests. BUT what if you like one tiny leaf 🌿 on a branch and nothing else on it? What if, as an example, you’re in no way into pee play …but… the idea of having to hold it until there’s permission. I can see the appeal. Do I need to subscribe to the whole branch just for one leaf? No. So we avoid little things we may enjoy because we don’t want to interact with the *big thing*. Is anyone following this gibberish?

This also extends to kinks (or sexual desires - I’m definitely using kink liberally here) where I wish I felt more comfortable because I absolutely see the appeal but something about me won’t allow me to relax into that role. Example, I like the ultra feminine princess girl vibe, I find the aesthetic hot and am mostly attracted to that type of girl. Do I exude ultra feminine princess energy? Certainly not but… I wish I did sometimes. What branch do I land on then?

I’m not sure there are answers and I’m not looking for any but I do like to think about these things and talk about them. I don’t like to rule things out without really knowing all the things I might be ruling out (I mean obvious and illegal stuff aside c’mon šŸ˜‘). It’s more than trying to avoid kink shaming but an appreciation of understanding what turns people on and why it does. I don’t want to yuck your yum. I want a tasting plate of all your yums! They might become my yums too. šŸ˜‹
Loving your blog moment here definitely would like to come back to it after I’ve had some time to think (and not when I’m supposed to working!) but a few quick thoughts:

First, LOVE your metaphor of the Kink Tree (ā€œleafy bouquetā€ is so awesome here!)

Second, is that interests also change and evolve with time (at least for me) and

Finally, labels are supposed to be useful and while they can be a great shorthand, I try to focus more on the activity and feeling than what to call it (also interpretations of labels can vary wildly) so I guess I think the label should just be a jumping off point for thinking/talking, not the end
 
When I first started joining in on Lit I was so clueless about a lot of things kink related. I had naive, dated ideas about many aspects and would have considered myself 100% vanilla.
Then I remember getting involved in a thread by @lindi_85 called Fuck It List and it was a revelation!
People would talk about the types of sexual activities they'd always wanted to try and I was fascinated. Mostly because my list is apparently infinite! Sometimes I couldn't see the appeal just off name alone but then a poster would explain what, in particular they liked and it really opened my mind that maybe I could like part of that too.

There are things that really don't appeal to me at all but I reckon the lines are blurred for a lot of others. Like the latex gif - not something I'd be into - I much prefer a beautiful naked body - but how she was moving and using the fabric in an almost sensory way was really hot.

I dunno. If someone nerds out at me enough about their thing and it's not on my "absolutely not" list then yeah, I might be tempted. Learning is fun!
 
Mini PLP Blog Moment -

You know the drill - filth will follow as payment for reading.

This question of the categorizations of kink has been on my mind lately. It seems like branches on the most deviant tree ever. The idea that if I say I don’t like X that I might be ruling out all the little micro-kinks (copyright that!) that fall under the big label for the kink. It’s one of the things about labels - they can only do so much. They can broadly sort things but ultimately there’s just too much nuance and conversation around everything to slap a label on it and keep it moving. And those conversations are some of the best parts of kink. For me, it’s like foreplay and that feeling of having your mind opened to an idea or seeing a kink from a new angle is so cool.

I feel like I fall oddly in a gap around Lit. On one side, I seem to be far far less vanilla than most people in the PG, which is absolutely fine. Vanilla is everyone’s favorite for a reason. Most of the other kinkier people (women especially) have taken their leave from Lit for various reasons but have left a void that I really feel - looking at you WildHoney . I miss the broad range of ideas and the gentle push of what I thought were my boundaries around some topics often. On the other side, because of ā€œlifeā€, I get to exercise my kinkier side far less often than I’d like and I don’t often feel like I’d have much to add to a discussion anyway. Maybe this is just an Ancient One’s wistful aside about ā€œthe good old daysā€? šŸ‘µ

Back to the branches on the Kink Tree 🌳. I imagine sex is the trunk and there are many large limbs branching off. You may take the limb labeled ā€œBlowjobsā€ and follow it to many secondary branches like ā€œDeep Throatingā€ ā€œSloppyā€ or ā€œGentle Mouth Fuckā€. One thing can lead to another, and you have a thriving branch of kinky possibility where you can pick and choose a leafy bouquet of interests. BUT what if you like one tiny leaf 🌿 on a branch and nothing else on it? What if, as an example, you’re in no way into pee play …but… the idea of having to hold it until there’s permission. I can see the appeal. Do I need to subscribe to the whole branch just for one leaf? No. So we avoid little things we may enjoy because we don’t want to interact with the *big thing*. Is anyone following this gibberish?

This also extends to kinks (or sexual desires - I’m definitely using kink liberally here) where I wish I felt more comfortable because I absolutely see the appeal but something about me won’t allow me to relax into that role. Example, I like the ultra feminine princess girl vibe, I find the aesthetic hot and am mostly attracted to that type of girl. Do I exude ultra feminine princess energy? Certainly not but… I wish I did sometimes. What branch do I land on then?

I’m not sure there are answers and I’m not looking for any but I do like to think about these things and talk about them. I don’t like to rule things out without really knowing all the things I might be ruling out (I mean obvious and illegal stuff aside c’mon šŸ˜‘). It’s more than trying to avoid kink shaming but an appreciation of understanding what turns people on and why it does. I don’t want to yuck your yum. I want a tasting plate of all your yums! They might become my yums too. šŸ˜‹
A couple of very general thoughts. I agree that talking about and understanding relationships of objects is a good exercise. But I very firmly believe (and think the latest drama regarding pics perfectly illustrates) that if a classification cannot be expressed mathematically it should be deeply and consciously understood as a guideline not a firm rule and should be a starting point of a conversation about allowable, observable behavior not a settled agreement about it.

Second, not just in sex and kink but in most things, I’m a dabbler. I like knowing a little bit about a lot of things. But when I get into a group of people who care VERY deeply about a thing…I generally do not like it. For probably lots of reasons but a big one being it’s just hard for me to get that passionate about a thing. People? Yes. Things or things to do? No. So I’ve been in social circles where I’ve learned a lot about kink but man, being in that lifestyle at that level feels like work. I just wanna, you know, have fun with my partner tonight, I don’t wanna like have to go on reddit and figure out what the optimal buy list to maximize my pleasure is. It’s exhausting.

Basically

 
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But I very firmly believe (and think the latest drama regarding pics perfectly illustrates) that if a classification cannot be expressed mathematically it should be deeply and consciously understand as a guideline not a firm rule and should be a starting point of a conversation about allowable, observable behavior not and settled agreement about it.
I don’t have any comment except to say that this is a lovely sentence!
 
If someone nerds out at me enough about their thing and it's not on my "absolutely not" list then yeah, I might be tempted. Learning is fun!
Curious people are the most fun people!

And I wholeheartedly agree - not just in sex but everything, right? It’s so fun when someone shares what they love and I may not love it forever but I’m likely to love (or at least like/enjoy/appreciate) it in the moment experiencing it with then and seeing it through their eyes (food, music, activities, whatever)
 
Shibari being the first thing that comes to mind. I can’t even tie a knot! 🤣

I'm the same about Shibari at least. It's so pretty!
I agree about rope play. I think this is purely aesthetic for me. But who knows? I've never been braided up but it's stunning to look at it. I wonder what a very still body would do for a busy mind?
I've said a few times on here that I think, for me, there are definitely 'me' things that I'll always be interested in and 'within a dynamic' things that don't really interest me outside that specific dynamic.
This is very true. There are certain things that feel entirely natural within a certain dynamic and would be hard to experience or explain to anyone else.
MFM threesomes are really not my thing. But if I suspect that's my partner's thing, I'm open to exploring that through fantasy play, RP, toys, or other alternatives (including but not limited to headless Greek statues).
I have so many questions ;)
Loving your blog moment here definitely would like to come back to it after I’ve had some time to think (and not when I’m supposed to working!) but a few quick thoughts:
Please come play! It's a silly place but (and I may be biased) it's pretty cool.
First, LOVE your metaphor of the Kink Tree (ā€œleafy bouquetā€ is so awesome here!)
Thank you! My brain things in metaphor and analogy. I'm so glad it made sense to someone else.
Second, is that interests also change and evolve with time (at least for me)
1000% agree!
When I first started joining in on Lit I was so clueless about a lot of things kink related. I had naive, dated ideas about many aspects and would have considered myself 100% vanilla.
Then I remember getting involved in a thread by @lindi_85 called Fuck It List and it was a revelation!
I hope she's doing well! I think that thread was a great place for people to open up. I only peeked in at the time and I wish I'd participated more.
I dunno. If someone nerds out at me enough about their thing and it's not on my "absolutely not" list then yeah, I might be tempted. Learning is fun!
<nods excitedly> why wouldn't you want to experience as much as you can fit into a short life??
A couple of very general thoughts. I agree that talking about and understanding relationships of objects is a good exercise. But I very firmly believe (and think the latest drama regarding pics perfectly illustrates) that if a classification cannot be expressed mathematically it should be deeply and consciously understood as a guideline not a firm rule and should be a starting point of a conversation about allowable, observable behavior not a settled agreement about it.
Exactly what I was saying but your definition is the one we'll put in the manual for sure ;)
But when I get into a group of people who care VERY deeply about a thing…I generally do not like it. For probably lots of reasons but a big one being it’s just hard for me to get that passionate about a thing.
See, I love to listen to someone be passionate about something they love. Especially if they are good at explaining and exciting me. That goes for sex or history or ... well maybe not the sports....
 
See, I love to listen to someone be passionate about something they love. Especially if they are good at explaining and exciting me. That goes for sex or history or ... well maybe not the sports...
Hmmm I think there’s some nuance I didn’t make clear or understand or something. I LOVE people who love things. I love passion and excitement. Even if I don’t share the same level of passion. Very little makes me happier than seeing someone I like doing something they love.

But that’s generally more a one on one interaction. When I say I don’t like it and can’t get into it I’m talking more about groups or communities where I know I don’t know enough to be involved and really don’t care enough to be the newb that they need to graciously or not bring up to speed if that makes sense? That probably wasn’t what you meant but it’s where my mind went.
 
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