George Orwell would laugh............1984 in 2025
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Shock: Orwell’s 1984 Slapped with Trigger Warning.
Wow, you caught him, Dolen! The man who wrote “Shooting an Elephant“ is a crypto-racist in spite of himself. The Bletchley Park racial cryptographers strike again!
I remember the passage referred to, where Winston, watching the daily Two Minutes' Hate broadcast, takes note of Julia in the room wearing her Junior Anti-Sex League sash, and fantasizes about raping her and killing her.
It makes sense in context.
It makes sense in context.
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Why are you replying to your other username? So weird.
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It’s amusing that right wing loons think (or pretend) 1984 supports their own authoritarian movement. 
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Said no one ever…It’s amusing that right wing loons think (or pretend) 1984 supports their own authoritarian movement.
1984 - misinterpreted by the left since ‘49. The only people actually using ‘84 as a blueprint are Radicalized democrats.
Orwell wrote 1984 in response to events of a couple of wars. Most notable the Spanish Civil war that he participated in and wrote about in, Homage to Catalonia. He worried most about socialism….it being the most deceptive of the left wing “ism’s” and boy was he right.
Not sure Orwell ever imagined our Interweb world and leftists using technology to advance Socialism. But he sure did imagine governments censoring free speech in the name of political correctness to gain power. Sound familiar?
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Said no one ever…
1984 - misinterpreted by the left since ‘49. The only people actually using ‘84 as a blueprint are Radicalized democrats.
Orwell wrote 1984 in response to events of a couple of wars. Most notable the Spanish Civil war that he participated in and wrote about in, Homage to Catalonia. He worried most about socialism….it being the most deceptive of the left wing “ism’s” and boy was he right.
Not sure Orwell ever imagined our Interweb world and leftists using technology to advance Socialism. But he sure did imagine governments censoring free speech in the name of political correctness to gain power. Sound familiar?
Thanks for demonstrating how right wing loons are trying co-opt 1984 to support their own authoritarianism.
You are an idiot.
Orwell remained a self-ID'd Socialist until the day he died.
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Let’s put your theory to the test. Show us we’ve co’opted Orwell’s work. You can’t.
I will show you however how the left has taken ‘84 (and Huxley) and used it as a blueprint.
Radicalized democrats…for this purpose I’ll just refer to you as Radicalized leftists…use a well worn tactic from ‘84. Placing agitators in crowds. We see this at EVERY SCOTUS confirmation, almost any big televised political event, and of course at ANY right wing event. You leftists have long understood the current of HATE. Two Minutes of Hate has turned into 24hrs of Hate for you. Between your hive minded social outlets and news (read Legacy Liberal Media, LLM) you Radicalized know how to get your HATE on.
Speaking of our “media,” the modern day Ministry of Truth, we had a major news anchor during the Obama years either meeting or telecommunicating with two other political hacks to “advise” the president. That isn’t journalism. That’s propaganda. That’s just one example of thousands. Our media is nothing more than an operating organ of the Democratic Party. A modern day MoT.
Maybe read Homage to Catalonia, then re-read (if you’ve even read it before
) 1984. It really should be the companion book to the later…
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True. He also had much criticism of socialism. Get off ChatBot GPI and read some damn books for a change.
I've read almost everything Orwell ever wrote. He never had any criticism at all of socialism -- he simply regarded actually existing systems calling themselves "socialist" as something entirely different.
See "Toward European Unity" (1947).
And I don't know what ChatBot GPI is.
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You are an idiot.
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What?
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Here’s another example…I can do this allllll day…
What was it about?
In its second minute the Hate rose to a frenzy. People were leaping up and down in their places and shouting at the tops of their voices in an effort to drown the maddening bleating voice that came from the screen. The little sandy-haired woman had turned bright pink, and her mouth was opening and shutting like that of a landed fish. Even O'Brien's heavy face was flushed. He was sitting very straight in his chair, his powerful chest swelling and quivering as though he were standing up to the assault of a wave. The dark-haired girl behind Winston had begun crying out ‘Swine! Swine! Swine!’ and suddenly she picked up a heavy Newspeak dictionary and flung it at the screen. It struck Goldstein's nose and bounced off; the voice continued inexorably. In a lucid moment Winston found that he was shouting with the others and kicking his heel violently against the rung of his chair. The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but, on the contrary, that it was impossible to avoid joining in. Within thirty seconds any pretence was always unnecessary. A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge-hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic. And yet the rage that one felt was an abstract, undirected emotion which could be switched from one object to another like the flame of a blowlamp. Thus, at one moment Winston's hatred was not turned against Goldstein at all, but, on the contrary, against Big Brother, the Party, and the Thought Police; and at such moments his heart went out to the lonely, derided heretic on the screen, sole guardian of truth and sanity in a world of lies. And yet the very next instant he was at one with the people about him, and all that was said of Goldstein seemed to him to be true. At those moments his secret loathing of Big Brother changed into adoration, and Big Brother seemed to tower up, an invincible, fearless protector, standing like a rock against the hordes of Asia, and Goldstein, in spite of his isolation, his helplessness, and the doubt that hung about his very existence, seemed like some sinister enchanter, capable by the mere power of his voice of wrecking the structure of civilization.
It was even possible, at moments, to switch one's hatred this way or that by a voluntary act. Suddenly, by the sort of violent effort with which one wrenches one's head away from the pillow in a nightmare, Winston succeeded in transferring his hatred from the face on the screen to the dark-haired girl behind him. Vivid, beautiful hallucinations flashed through his mind. He would flog her to death with a rubber truncheon. He would tie her naked to a stake and shoot her full of arrows like Saint Sebastian. He would ravish her and cut her throat at the moment of climax. Better than before, moreover, he realized why it was that he hated her. He hated her because she was young and pretty and sexless, because he wanted to go to bed with her and would never do so, because round her sweet supple waist, which seemed to ask you to encircle it with your arm, there was only the odious scarlet sash, aggressive symbol of chastity.
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Let’s put your theory to the test. Show us we’ve co’opted Orwell’s work. You can’t.
I will show you however how the left has taken ‘84 (and Huxley) and used it as a blueprint.
Radicalized democrats…for this purpose I’ll just refer to you as Radicalized leftists…use a well worn tactic from ‘84. Placing agitators in crowds. We see this at EVERY SCOTUS confirmation, almost any big televised political event, and of course at ANY right wing event. You leftists have long understood the current of HATE. Two Minutes of Hate has turned into 24hrs of Hate for you. Between your hive minded social outlets and news (read Legacy Liberal Media, LLM) you Radicalized know how to get your HATE on.
Speaking of our “media,” the modern day Ministry of Truth, we had a major news anchor during the Obama years either meeting or telecommunicating with two other political hacks to “advise” the president. That isn’t journalism. That’s propaganda. That’s just one example of thousands. Our media is nothing more than an operating organ of the Democratic Party. A modern day MoT.
Maybe read Homage to Catalonia, then re-read (if you’ve even read it before
It really should be the companion book to the later…
Your doublespeak is straight out of 1984.
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Orwell was a socialist. His concerns were about authoritarianism, which these days is strictly coming from the right.
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You don’t read very well. I’ve already answered this. Just because he was a socialist didn’t mean he didn’t criticize it. FFS read a god damed book.
But he didn't. Never. See post #17.
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