On one person that approves the stories

Husky_Embrace

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I'm still relatively new to the site, and I do not live here to know all the ins and outs yet. Even so I frequent upon the 'fact' that one person is doing all the submissions. As I read it it isn't just a single category, or only writing. All of them.

I find that doubtful.

It is such a big task to consistently do I wonder if people have facts about this. Even so, here's my position why I find it doubtful.

I did a quick count. In the last 7 days there were 1326 new entries. Pictures, stories, audio, the whole lot. I can't imagine how many have been rejected either. Half that number? Double that? Just to say it is a lot to work through in 7 days. That's 189,43 entries per day, and an unknown amount of submissions rejected.

There's incredible people out there that can do things I can't. The sister of a friend of mine could comprehensively read a thick novel in an hour or two. If you add in a litany of software to aid in all manner of detection, like bad spelling and grammar or AI typed language you can get far. Even so, there's too much that is still on the cutting edge. How do you know if in a NonCon story the non consenter had any pleasure, except reading it? It can be a novella or a long audio book. These kind of tools are still in infancy. They're there, but not as reliable.

After how many stories can you still give it your all? After how many stories does the quality of the check falter?

Then there's a few more damning parts on the "one person does all" theory. Editors Choice and the inconsistency of when things are checked.

The Editors Choice is given when the editor deems it of excellent quality. A must read for others. I would assume that an editor then needs to read the whole story, and be engaged. How many stories are then unfairly passed over as the editor gets fatigued, trusting more on the algorithms to tell what's what.

The other is the inconsistency when a story/audio/poem is checked. Why would such an irregular method be present? Some things can be gleaned, like authors that are well known have better prospects at publishing a story quickly. However, within each category of authors there still seems to be much irregularities. Why did my second story get published compared to someone else also submitting their second story in the same category? Even though I published it later? Or at least, that is what I could tell from the posts made.

My suspicion is that it's a too large site to do this well enough for one person. Sure there might be some outliers in people who can do this for years at such pace, but it wouldn't be logical. At a certain moment freelancers or even paid people should enter the picture. Add a ticket system, people having certain niches they want to check on, and you find much better explanations for the submissions.

With multiple (freelance) Editors you can explain the site much better. The amount of submissions, the irregularities of acceptance or rejection, and the different ways they might react to the same story.

So far my meanderings about a single Editor holding the site together. What are your thoughts? Or do you have facts how it works, showing a single Editor does everything, whether sick, in the weekend or on vacation?
 
Textbook "6 of one, half dozen of the other" scenario. If its one person, so what? If it's more, so what?
I Think the so what is first of all that it's interesting. It is something thrown around the site with seemingly no backup to the claim. 8t is just repeated over and over. Why is that?

Second of all, it can have a major impact on the site. Let's say that single person gets tired of it, or something bad happens. Then this whole site is dead in the water. What will we do then? I think it's something to keep in mind, if not discuss.
 
Second of all, it can have a major impact on the site. Let's say that single person gets tired of it, or something bad happens. Then this whole site is dead in the water. What will we do then? I think it's something to keep in mind, if not discuss.
What's to discuss? Nobody here is in a situation to act. The only thing you can do is make sure you keep copies of your works somewhere other than the site.

If suddenly no more stories are published, there will probably be a day or two before everything collapses, so that would be your warning to exchange contact details with anyone you want to stay in touch with.

Other than that? I managed for five decades without Lit. I'll manage again after it's gone. So will most people, I'm sure.
 
Then there's a few more damning parts on the "one person does all" theory. Editors Choice and the inconsistency of when things are checked.
I’ve never seen a green E story that was published this decade. I doubt any submission is being comprehensively read by a human at this point.

My suspicion is that it's a too large site to do this well enough for one person.
One other argument pointing towards the fact that things are far from “well”, and have been for a while, is the immense backlog of monthly contests. I believe the last time it’s been held was in like 2022, even though mentions of it are still pervasive (like in the recent Nude Day announcement) despite the fact it’s effectively dead.

I managed for five decades without Lit. I'll manage again after it's gone. So will most people, I'm sure.
It’s funny to think there are not only consenting adults, but also legally drinking Americans who are younger than this site.
 
I’ve never seen a green E story that was published this decade. I doubt any submission is being comprehensively read by a human at this point.
@THBGato's Comments for Christmas got an Editor's Choice mark in December, they're exceedingly rare these days but not completely extinct!

In general I agree with the concerns here about sustainability, though I haven't been active for long enough to have past trends to compare it to.

To me Lit is one of the few surviving representatives of the Old Internet, before everything was monetized and price-tiered and consolidated under corporatized mega-sites.

The downsides are that it doesn't respond to user needs quickly, doesn't adopt modern user experience improvements or best practices quickly, is too dependent on a small number of individual administrators.

The upsides are... literally everything else.

It runs enough advertising to support its operations (and presumably to make Laurel & Co. enough money to make the site a full-time job), but hasn't monetized every aspect of its existence or tried to leverage its user base or content to capitalist vultures.

It's never bombarded me with dark-pattern pop-up ads, it's never intentionally disrupted my reading experience, it's never forced me to integrate my account with external social networks, it's never tried to make me pay for Lit+ or something.

It's taken a strong anti-AI stance, and from my perspective has always been clear about the IP rights of creators.

Although I fear that one day it will shut down and disappear, I would rather see it disappear than see it bought out by Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg or some other tech oligarch and turned into an enshittified content farm 😱
 
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@THBGato's Comments for Christmas got an Editor's Choice mark in December, they're exceedingly rare these days but not completely extinct!

In general I agree with the concerns here about sustainability, though I haven't been active for long enough to have past trends to compare it to.

To me Lit is one of the few surviving representatives of the Old Internet, before everything was monetized and price-tiered and consolidated under corporatized mega-sites.

The downsides are that it doesn't respond to user needs quickly, doesn't adopt modern user experience improvements or best practices quickly, is too dependent on a small number of individual administrators.

The upsides are... literally everything else.

It runs enough advertising to support its operations (and presumably to make Laurel & Co. enough money to make the site a full-time job), but hasn't monetized every aspect of its existence or tried to leverage its user base or content to capitalist vultures.

It's never bombarded me with dark-pattern pop-up ads, it's never intentionally disrupted my reading experience, it's never forced me to integrate my account with external social networks, it's never tried to make me pay for Lit+ or something.

It's taken a strong anti-AI stance, and from my perspective has always been clear about the IP rights of creators.

Although I fear that one day it will shut down and disappear, I would rather see it disappear than see it bought out by Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg or some other tech oligarch and turned into an enshittified content farm 😱
Really well said, Penny, although how you knew that 'Enshittified Content Farm' was the draft title for my next story, I'll never know. I'll blame Alphabet Inc since you didn't mention them by name - those Google Docs are a trap!

You're absolutely right that Literotica has a charming cottage operation feel to it (just a cottage with a hell of a lot of sex happening), and we shouldn't forget that. If it got corporatized, we'd pretty soon have program managers, content directors, project managers and the like popping up all over the place working out how to squeeze more revenue. It's a relict from when erotic literature was simply an innocent diversion of people finding ways to express their fantasies anonymously and for free.
 
Just imagine the satirical possibilities, too!
Elton Muskberger makes Lauren Lit an offer she can't refuse, and turns EroticLit.com into an AI-powered paid tier service platform.

Users who pay for LitPro+ get extra VoteCoins so their ratings count triple.

But the fatal flaw is that the AI writing algorithm is boring, and only produces rote variations of "February Sucks," and "Riding in the Back Seat with Mom," and profits start to tank. So they lure back erotica writers with promises of big money (in the form of crypto) but the contracts turn them into soulless smut farmers.

Now a plucky crew of writers must band together and hatch a scheme to break their contractual chains and return EroticLit to it's former janky glory🤩
 
Elton Muskberger makes Lauren Lit an offer she can't refuse, and turns EroticLit.com into an AI-powered paid tier service platform.

Users who pay for LitPro+ get extra VoteCoins so their ratings count triple.

But the fatal flaw is that the AI writing algorithm is boring, and only produces rote variations of "February Sucks," and "Riding in the Back Seat with Mom," and profits start to tank. So they lure back erotica writers with promises of big money (in the form of crypto) but the contracts turn them into soulless smut farmers.

Now a plucky crew of writers must band together and hatch a scheme to break their contractual chains and return EroticLit to it's former janky glory🤩
The Grammar Nazis swoop in from the side as our heroic band were getting into their stride, pouring scorn over their reckless misuse of "it's". But it was a clever trick - the Nazis collide with a Cybertruck filled with Elton's B-team, and the confusion enables our crew to escape to the next scene....
 
Elton Muskberger makes Lauren Lit an offer she can't refuse, and turns EroticLit.com into an AI-powered paid tier service platform.

Users who pay for LitPro+ get extra VoteCoins so their ratings count triple.

But the fatal flaw is that the AI writing algorithm is boring, and only produces rote variations of "February Sucks," and "Riding in the Back Seat with Mom," and profits start to tank. So they lure back erotica writers with promises of big money (in the form of crypto) but the contracts turn them into soulless smut farmers.

Now a plucky crew of writers must band together and hatch a scheme to break their contractual chains and return EroticLit to it's former janky glory🤩
And here I was thinking that NonCon should have the person have some good time during. Getting absolutely drilled from back to front by your corporate overlords must be a niche where NonCon does not need any entertainment.

"Give me the money shot!" the corporate manager shouted. "Give me that sweet clicks on that ad for my release!"

"The backseat of the car can't take it any more sir! There's too many moms and sons in there! If I'll put in any more, she'll blow!" said the tortured writer, enslaved by the bought likes pumping their grotesque story to the top of the page.

"GOOD!" the manager shouted.
 
I did a quick count. In the last 7 days there were 1326 new entries. Pictures, stories, audio, the whole lot. I can't imagine how many have been rejected either. Half that number? Double that? Just to say it is a lot to work through in 7 days. That's 189.43 entries per day, and an unknown amount of submissions rejected.
On another thread, someone estimated that including rejections, there are about 200 submissions per day. I don't know how accurate that is, but it seems like a pretty good estimate, so for discussion purposes, let's use that number.

Now, it's just simply not possible for Laurel or any other human being to read 189 stories a day, let alone 200, so obviously, they need to use automation. I don't pretend to know how much of the work is automated and how much goes directly to Laurel.

Now, the best AI detectors claim 98% accuracy. That's an excellent rate. But 98% accuracy is 2% inaccuracy. In other words, 2% or 2 of every 100 submissions get falsely labelled by the system, either AI-written pieces it mislabels as human, or human-written pieces it mislabels as AI. At 200 submissions, that's 4 errors per day.

I don't know the actual percentages, so for purposes of discussion, let's say 50% of mislabels are AI labelled as human and 50% are human labelled as AI, just to make the numbers nice and easy. That would be two stories a day carefully crafted by human authors that the system labels as AI. Two per day is 730 per year. That is a large number; it's no wonder authors are complaining.

I'm not quite sure what the fix for this is, but I'm sure it's chasing authors away. And that's not a good thing.
 
I'm not quite sure what the fix for this is, but I'm sure it's chasing authors away. And that's not a good thing.
And yet the submission numbers don't seem to be going down. From Lit's perspective, losing writers doesn't matter if there are new writers stepping up to take their place.

It must suck to be one of those writers, I completely understand that. But for the site, it's a cost without a price to keep the site free of AI-generated slop. It doesn't make sense for them to change their procedure to accommodate a few writers who are immediately replaced anyway.
 
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